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nomoreshaq
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 Posted: Wed Jul 19, 2006 8:36 am Post subject: phoenix suns depth chart |
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amare/burke
diaw/thomas
marion/jones
bell/barbosa/pike
nash/banks/eisley
is it just me or does this team not seem all that deep?
centers/frontcourt
-amare might never be the same..and will have likely lost a good amount of explosiveness (see mcdyess) but will most likely still be a very effective player..just not utterly dominant.
-burke is a stiff.
-diaw is a hell of player but is undersized to play either PF or C.
-kurt thomas is 34 and coming off of an injured season.
-marion is a hell of a player as well, but how long will be forced to play "big"?
-james jones is a decent player, no real opinion.
bottom line: diaw is a great player i think, so is marion..but both are undersized. amare is MVP caliber but i doubt he'll be the same again. i dont think kurt thomas adds much at his age..
backcourt
-nash: mvp. he has to slow down sooner or later right?
-bell: overrated trash.
-barbosa: a good baller, but too small for SG
-banks: a good baller but can he learn to shoot the 3 ball?
-pike: stiff now.
-eisley: stiff. |
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Less depth, more talent, perfect fit for their style of play. Went to the WCF last year. Are they winning a championship? Probably not, but they're still winning a lot of games with that potent offense which means they'll be in a better position than us come PO time.
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| Posted: Wed Jul 19, 2006 8:55 am Post subject: Re: phoenix suns depth chart |
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| nomoreshaq wrote: | amare/burke
diaw/thomas
marion/jones
bell/barbosa/pike
nash/banks/eisley
is it just me or does this team not seem all that deep? |
Depth has always been an issue for the Suns. They are able to compensate for it because "quality" is better than "quantity."
| Quote: | centers/frontcourt
-amare might never be the same..and will have likely lost a good amount of explosiveness (see mcdyess) but will most likely still be a very effective player..just not utterly dominant.
-burke is a stiff.
-diaw is a hell of player but is undersized to play either PF or C.
-kurt thomas is 34 and coming off of an injured season.
-marion is a hell of a player as well, but how long will be forced to play "big"?
-james jones is a decent player, no real opinion.
bottom line: diaw is a great player i think, so is marion..but both are undersized. amare is MVP caliber but i doubt he'll be the same again. i dont think kurt thomas adds much at his age..
backcourt
-nash: mvp. he has to slow down sooner or later right?
-bell: overrated trash.
-barbosa: a good baller, but too small for SG
-banks: a good baller but can he learn to shoot the 3 ball?
-pike: stiff now.
-eisley: stiff. |
LOL!
Though I disagree with your analysis, let's suppose (for a second) that it's true. They are still a better team than we are and will likely finish first in the Pacific. |
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wolfpaclaker
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All that depth and yet were down 3-1 and a rebound away from a Laker team that had Luke Walton and Smush Parker starting for them.
Yeah, I'm trembling in fear of the Phx Suns.
Mitch is right. Noone is intimidating in the L right now. The Lakers - if things fall in place - can make the Finals sooner than we think. |
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Money$hot!
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They're pretty much 8 players deep which isn't too bad by today's standards. Their frontcourt needs another big.
Diaw proved that he had no problem being productive in the Suns' system. Undersized... the way they play Diaw's size is in asset.
With Amare back Marion is moved back to his natural SF and is actually oversized.
The Suns are going to be a handful if Amare is even 80% for the whole season. If he's 90%, I'll pick them to win the West. |
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| wolfpaclaker wrote: | All that depth and yet were down 3-1 and a rebound away from a Laker team that had Luke Walton and Smush Parker starting for them.
Yeah, I'm trembling in fear of the Phx Suns.
Mitch is right. Noone is intimidating in the L right now. The Lakers - if things fall in place - can make the Finals sooner than we think. |
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| Money$hot! wrote: | They're pretty much 8 players deep which isn't too bad by today's standards. Their frontcourt needs another big.
Diaw proved that he had no problem being productive in the Suns' system. Undersized... the way they play Diaw's size is in asset.
With Amare back Marion is moved back to his natural SF and is actually oversized.
The Suns are going to be a handful if Amare is even 80% for the whole season. If he's 90%, I'll pick them to win the West. |
Marion played PF even with Amare in the lineup. |
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| I don't see a problem with their depth. They want to run and they have the players to do it. |
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when did they pick up Eisley?
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| Posted: Wed Jul 19, 2006 9:37 am Post subject: Re: phoenix suns depth chart |
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| nomoreshaq wrote: | amare/burke
diaw/thomas
marion/jones
bell/barbosa/pike
nash/banks/eisley
is it just me or does this team not seem all that deep?
centers/frontcourt
-amare might never be the same..and will have likely lost a good amount of explosiveness (see mcdyess) but will most likely still be a very effective player..just not utterly dominant.
-burke is a stiff.
-diaw is a hell of player but is undersized to play either PF or C.
-kurt thomas is 34 and coming off of an injured season.
-marion is a hell of a player as well, but how long will be forced to play "big"?
-james jones is a decent player, no real opinion.
bottom line: diaw is a great player i think, so is marion..but both are undersized. amare is MVP caliber but i doubt he'll be the same again. i dont think kurt thomas adds much at his age..
backcourt
-nash: mvp. he has to slow down sooner or later right?
-bell: overrated trash.
-barbosa: a good baller, but too small for SG
-banks: a good baller but can he learn to shoot the 3 ball?
-pike: stiff now.
-eisley: stiff. |
it is still a huge possibilty they'll do better than us in the reg season. actually, i'll guarantee they'll rank higher than us unless our players live up to the expectations that are drawn in these forums. LO, and kwame especially have to show serious improvements next year for us to make some noise. Im just hoping for a rematch in the playoffs with these fools.
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I think the Lakers O will be a lot more efficient and potent. Kobe will not have to do all the scoring like last year. Yes the Lakers had the number 7 offense last year, but I think it will be even better.
Now PHX likes to run and gun with their smaller players, but if the Lakers can be a scoring threat constantly, I don't see how at all PHX will with that line up slow us down.
I mean we can throw 3 or 4 6'10"+ guys at them at any given time.
I see no way that they can stop us on O, with their line up.
But I do think with our guys, if we play solid team D, we can slow them down. We don't need individual defense heroes. We just have to play team D.
And I do think our team D will be better this year. Mainly due to the fact that we are older, and have a year of the TRI under our belt. The guys can focus on D now, instead of worrying about being in the right spot at the right time in the TRI. |
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Ha! So true.  |
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jjigga3000
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| Posted: Wed Jul 19, 2006 10:23 am Post subject: |
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| Money$hot! wrote: | They're pretty much 8 players deep which isn't too bad by today's standards. Their frontcourt needs another big.
Diaw proved that he had no problem being productive in the Suns' system. Undersized... the way they play Diaw's size is in asset.
With Amare back Marion is moved back to his natural SF and is actually oversized.
The Suns are going to be a handful if Amare is even 80% for the whole season. If he's 90%, I'll pick them to win the West. |
8 players is all you need. Especially in the Playoffs that's all they use. |
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jjigga3000
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| Posted: Wed Jul 19, 2006 10:27 am Post subject: Re: phoenix suns depth chart |
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| nomoreshaq wrote: | amare/burke
diaw/thomas
marion/jones
bell/barbosa/pike
nash/banks/eisley
is it just me or does this team not seem all that deep?
centers/frontcourt
-amare might never be the same..and will have likely lost a good amount of explosiveness (see mcdyess) but will most likely still be a very effective player..just not utterly dominant.
-burke is a stiff.
-diaw is a hell of player but is undersized to play either PF or C.
-kurt thomas is 34 and coming off of an injured season.
-marion is a hell of a player as well, but how long will be forced to play "big"?
-james jones is a decent player, no real opinion.
bottom line: diaw is a great player i think, so is marion..but both are undersized. amare is MVP caliber but i doubt he'll be the same again. i dont think kurt thomas adds much at his age..
backcourt
-nash: mvp. he has to slow down sooner or later right?
-bell: overrated trash.
-barbosa: a good baller, but too small for SG
-banks: a good baller but can he learn to shoot the 3 ball?
-pike: stiff now.
-eisley: stiff. |
Amare>Kwame Mihm>Burk
Centers Push
Vlad>Diaw. Thomas is not there any longer.
4 spot Lakers
Odom>Marion Walton>Jones
3 spot Lakers
Kobe>>Bell Evans>Barbosa
2 spot Lakers
Nash>>Smush Nash>Williams
PG spot Suns.
Nash is the key to this team. You stop him, the teams is week. Williams will be key in our series against them this season. |
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| NoMoreGame7s wrote: | LG Depth Chart:
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KOBE2007MVP
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| Posted: Wed Jul 19, 2006 10:31 am Post subject: We should have gotten M. Banks |
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Another opportunity blown away by our great GM (NOT!) Kupchak.
Mitch just BLOWS! |
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RetroNikes
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| Posted: Wed Jul 19, 2006 10:33 am Post subject: Re: phoenix suns depth chart |
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| jjigga3000 wrote: | | nomoreshaq wrote: | amare/burke
diaw/thomas
marion/jones
bell/barbosa/pike
nash/banks/eisley
is it just me or does this team not seem all that deep?
centers/frontcourt
-amare might never be the same..and will have likely lost a good amount of explosiveness (see mcdyess) but will most likely still be a very effective player..just not utterly dominant.
-burke is a stiff.
-diaw is a hell of player but is undersized to play either PF or C.
-kurt thomas is 34 and coming off of an injured season.
-marion is a hell of a player as well, but how long will be forced to play "big"?
-james jones is a decent player, no real opinion.
bottom line: diaw is a great player i think, so is marion..but both are undersized. amare is MVP caliber but i doubt he'll be the same again. i dont think kurt thomas adds much at his age..
backcourt
-nash: mvp. he has to slow down sooner or later right?
-bell: overrated trash.
-barbosa: a good baller, but too small for SG
-banks: a good baller but can he learn to shoot the 3 ball?
-pike: stiff now.
-eisley: stiff. |
Amare>Kwame Mihm>Burk
Centers Push
Vlad>Diaw. Thomas is not there any longer.
4 spot Lakers
Odom>Marion Walton>Jones
3 spot Lakers
Kobe>>Bell Evans>Barbosa
2 spot Lakers
Nash>>Smush Nash>Williams
PG spot Suns.
Nash is the key to this team. You stop him, the teams is week. Williams will be key in our series against them this season. |
Vlad better than Diaw?
Diaw > Vlad |
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| deep enough to get in our ass. I know we lost to them but Phoenix is not the only team we have to worry about out west. Its time we let this fascination go. |
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nextphenom23
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So you're saying that there not deep? Im not a Suns fan, but they are pretty deep. Seeing that they have Barbosa who can play the 1,2, and 3. Diaw who can play every single position on the court. Marion who can play the 3,4,and the 5. Also Amare can play the 4 and 5. And also Jones can play the 2,3,and possibly 4. So they have players who can covers every positon on the court. With Amare back they put themselves in title contention. So far here are my top 5 teams to win it all, in order.
1.Miami Heat-they have neither downgraded or upgraded yet.
2. Phoenix Suns- They were an Amare away from beating the Mavs. Just like the Heat were a Wade away from beating the Pistons 2 years ago.
3. Chicago Bulls- Enough said they are the most improved team in the league. When you add a top 5 pick and also the best defensive player in the league, and also add a player that compliments his game in PJ Brown. They might even be the team to beat in the East.
4. Dallas Mavericks- Have neither downgraded or upgraded IMO. Their best move has been keeping Terry. Also it seems like they're going to add a big man for Dirk
5. San Antonio Spurs- They have really fallen off. They could have already won the title for 2006-2007 season if you go by there previous trends in winning titles. It seems like every other year they win a title. But they dont look good this year. They could end up making a couple of moves but right now its looking Duncan is aging and his other 2 mates (Parker and Ginobli), arent giving him enough support.
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gng930
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| wolfpaclaker wrote: | All that depth and yet were down 3-1 and a rebound away from a Laker team that had Luke Walton and Smush Parker starting for them.
Yeah, I'm trembling in fear of the Phx Suns. |
Two words for you: Amare injured. |
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gng930
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| Posted: Wed Jul 19, 2006 10:54 am Post subject: Re: phoenix suns depth chart |
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| RetroNikes wrote: | | jjigga3000 wrote: | | nomoreshaq wrote: | amare/burke
diaw/thomas
marion/jones
bell/barbosa/pike
nash/banks/eisley
is it just me or does this team not seem all that deep?
centers/frontcourt
-amare might never be the same..and will have likely lost a good amount of explosiveness (see mcdyess) but will most likely still be a very effective player..just not utterly dominant.
-burke is a stiff.
-diaw is a hell of player but is undersized to play either PF or C.
-kurt thomas is 34 and coming off of an injured season.
-marion is a hell of a player as well, but how long will be forced to play "big"?
-james jones is a decent player, no real opinion.
bottom line: diaw is a great player i think, so is marion..but both are undersized. amare is MVP caliber but i doubt he'll be the same again. i dont think kurt thomas adds much at his age..
backcourt
-nash: mvp. he has to slow down sooner or later right?
-bell: overrated trash.
-barbosa: a good baller, but too small for SG
-banks: a good baller but can he learn to shoot the 3 ball?
-pike: stiff now.
-eisley: stiff. |
Amare>Kwame Mihm>Burk
Centers Push
Vlad>Diaw. Thomas is not there any longer.
4 spot Lakers
Odom>Marion Walton>Jones
3 spot Lakers
Kobe>>Bell Evans>Barbosa
2 spot Lakers
Nash>>Smush Nash>Williams
PG spot Suns.
Nash is the key to this team. You stop him, the teams is week. Williams will be key in our series against them this season. |
Vlad better than Diaw?
Diaw > Vlad |
Agreed. At this point, I'd take Diaw over Vlad. His jumpshot isn't as deadly but he's A LOT more versatile. |
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gng930
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| Posted: Wed Jul 19, 2006 10:55 am Post subject: Re: phoenix suns depth chart |
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| jjigga3000 wrote: | | nomoreshaq wrote: | amare/burke
diaw/thomas
marion/jones
bell/barbosa/pike
nash/banks/eisley
is it just me or does this team not seem all that deep?
centers/frontcourt
-amare might never be the same..and will have likely lost a good amount of explosiveness (see mcdyess) but will most likely still be a very effective player..just not utterly dominant.
-burke is a stiff.
-diaw is a hell of player but is undersized to play either PF or C.
-kurt thomas is 34 and coming off of an injured season.
-marion is a hell of a player as well, but how long will be forced to play "big"?
-james jones is a decent player, no real opinion.
bottom line: diaw is a great player i think, so is marion..but both are undersized. amare is MVP caliber but i doubt he'll be the same again. i dont think kurt thomas adds much at his age..
backcourt
-nash: mvp. he has to slow down sooner or later right?
-bell: overrated trash.
-barbosa: a good baller, but too small for SG
-banks: a good baller but can he learn to shoot the 3 ball?
-pike: stiff now.
-eisley: stiff. |
Amare>Kwame Mihm>Burk
Centers Push
Vlad>Diaw. Thomas is not there any longer.
4 spot Lakers
Odom>Marion Walton>Jones
3 spot Lakers
Kobe>>Bell Evans>Barbosa
2 spot Lakers
Nash>>Smush Nash>Williams
PG spot Suns.
Nash is the key to this team. You stop him, the teams is week. Williams will be key in our series against them this season. |
Thomas = Kurt Thomas |
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hoopschick29
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| datniggbstyle wrote: | | deep enough to get in our ass. I know we lost to them but Phoenix is not the only team we have to worry about out west. Its time we let this fascination go. |
I agree and I wish people wouldn't continue to assume that since we were so close to beating Phx this year that that means something for next year. It doesn't. Portland was one quarter away from being in the NBA finals against Indiana. They haven't been close since. Sactown was some coughed up shots and FTs away from being in the NBA Finals in 02. They haven't been close since. I'm not saying we can't beat Phx next year, I'm just saying it's not a given based on anything that happened this year.
And as far as our fascination with beating Phx, again I agree with you. Sac was fixated on us, and in the process, Dallas SA and Minny passed them up.
Nothing's a given. But I do know that the team with the higher seed and better record usually advances. Not always, but usually. It would be nice if we could crack that top 4 and really give ourselves a shot at advancing. It's gonna be tough, though.
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| Posted: Wed Jul 19, 2006 10:59 am Post subject: Re: phoenix suns depth chart |
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Nash is the key to this team. You stop him, the teams is weak. |
agreed. nash is the key. thats all you gotta do......
also, people think amare is gonna be a write off. Not the case...nash will still make him over achieve even coming off the injury.
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