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PostPosted: Wed Aug 23, 2006 12:24 am    Post subject: when rap was great

stupid little john!!!

bone thugs N harmony are the best


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PostPosted: Wed Aug 23, 2006 8:05 am    Post subject: Re: when rap was great

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stupid little john!!!

bone thugs N harmony are the best




NO!!! rap was great with these GUYS

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 23, 2006 8:37 am    Post subject:

Give me ATCQ and the rest of the Native Tongues!!! That's hip-hop...
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 23, 2006 8:41 am    Post subject:

Lil John is terrible
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 23, 2006 9:02 am    Post subject:

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Lil John is terrible
Lil Jon= Crunk = Great Ringtones... and that's about it... IMO, of course
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 23, 2006 9:17 am    Post subject:

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Give me ATCQ and the rest of the Native Tongues!!! That's hip-hop...


Throw a little Roots, Common, Outkast, Living Legends crew and a dash of KRS-1 in there, and it's a deal.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 23, 2006 9:23 am    Post subject:

Rap is still great...just most stuff promoted by the media is garbage or whatever is on the Radio. Obviously there are exceptions....I look to the underground scene to hear the dope ish.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 23, 2006 9:23 am    Post subject:

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TACH wrote:
Give me ATCQ and the rest of the Native Tongues!!! That's hip-hop...


Throw a little Roots, Common, Outkast, Living Legends crew and a dash of KRS-1 in there, and it's a deal.


I can do that!!!!

Have you heard KRS-One's latest? It's his best in years. And ATCQ is touring!!!
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 23, 2006 9:23 am    Post subject:

Socks wrote:
TACH wrote:
Give me ATCQ and the rest of the Native Tongues!!! That's hip-hop...


Throw a little Roots, Common, Outkast, Living Legends crew and a dash of KRS-1 in there, and it's a deal.

Nice another LL Fan up in this ISH.......almost famous boy.....classic!
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 23, 2006 9:25 am    Post subject:

TACH wrote:
Socks wrote:
TACH wrote:
Give me ATCQ and the rest of the Native Tongues!!! That's hip-hop...


Throw a little Roots, Common, Outkast, Living Legends crew and a dash of KRS-1 in there, and it's a deal.


I can do that!!!!

Have you heard KRS-One's latest? It's his best in years. And ATCQ is touring!!!




I hope none of yall forgettin talib Kweli
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 23, 2006 9:31 am    Post subject:

Rap is still great you just have to look harder.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 23, 2006 9:46 am    Post subject:

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Rap is still great...just most stuff promoted by the media is garbage or whatever is on the Radio. Obviously there are exceptions....I look to the underground scene to hear the dope ish.




I have XM,.. and they have show that is dedicated to 'progressive hiphop' called Subsoniq (it's on XMU (43)right now for those with XM and/or Direct TV. The show is tight... keep me up on the new underground joints.


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PostPosted: Wed Aug 23, 2006 9:48 am    Post subject:

Lakers999 wrote:
TACH wrote:
Socks wrote:
TACH wrote:
Give me ATCQ and the rest of the Native Tongues!!! That's hip-hop...


Throw a little Roots, Common, Outkast, Living Legends crew and a dash of KRS-1 in there, and it's a deal.


I can do that!!!!

Have you heard KRS-One's latest? It's his best in years. And ATCQ is touring!!!




I hope none of yall forgettin talib Kweli


Can't forget about him... or Mos Def.
Read somewhere that Commom, BlackStar (Mos Def/Talib Kweli), The Roots, Slum Village are considered to be in the Native Tongues.


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PostPosted: Wed Aug 23, 2006 9:55 am    Post subject:

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Socks wrote:
TACH wrote:
Give me ATCQ and the rest of the Native Tongues!!! That's hip-hop...


Throw a little Roots, Common, Outkast, Living Legends crew and a dash of KRS-1 in there, and it's a deal.

Nice another LL Fan up in this ISH.......almost famous boy.....classic!


Yeah Vancouver Fan, I continue to be amazed that these guys don't bust out bigger than they have. I was a big Mystik Journeymen fan and those shows at their digs in Oakland back in the day were amazing. Best live hip-hop show I have been to is either a Roots show I saw in Barcelona or a Journeymen show I saw in SF.

Then Eligh, Aesop, Murs, Grouch, etc. jumped in and it just got even better...
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 23, 2006 11:01 am    Post subject:

Socks wrote:
Vancouver Fan wrote:
Socks wrote:
TACH wrote:
Give me ATCQ and the rest of the Native Tongues!!! That's hip-hop...


Throw a little Roots, Common, Outkast, Living Legends crew and a dash of KRS-1 in there, and it's a deal.

Nice another LL Fan up in this ISH.......almost famous boy.....classic!


Yeah Vancouver Fan, I continue to be amazed that these guys don't bust out bigger than they have. I was a big Mystik Journeymen fan and those shows at their digs in Oakland back in the day were amazing. Best live hip-hop show I have been to is either a Roots show I saw in Barcelona or a Journeymen show I saw in SF.

Then Eligh, Aesop, Murs, Grouch, etc. jumped in and it just got even better...

nice....LEGENDS BABY! Black Sands........Mystic Journeyman are dope....lucky has to be the most under rated emcee ever.

you dig anyone else from the west coast underground secne??? Zion i, People Under The Stairs, Del and Hiero, Aceyalone, the coup etc etc etc.....
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 23, 2006 11:37 am    Post subject:

TACH wrote:
Lakers999 wrote:
TACH wrote:
Socks wrote:
TACH wrote:
Give me ATCQ and the rest of the Native Tongues!!! That's hip-hop...


Throw a little Roots, Common, Outkast, Living Legends crew and a dash of KRS-1 in there, and it's a deal.


I can do that!!!!

Have you heard KRS-One's latest? It's his best in years. And ATCQ is touring!!!




I hope none of yall forgettin talib Kweli


Can't forget about him... or Mos Def.
Read somewhere that Commom, BlackStar (Mos Def/Talib Kweli), The Roots, Slum Village are considered to be in the Native Tongues.


NOW you guys are talkin'!!!!!

Gotta give it up to the Universal Magnetic... The Mighty Mos Def!!!

And, while they may not be in Native Tongue, Little Brother is da ish too!!

Mos
Talib
Blackstar
Hi-Tek
TCQ
Roots
Common
De La Soul
Digable Planets
Medina Green
Lyricist Lounge
Soundbombing
Bush Babees
Dilated Peoples
Jurassic 5
Run DMC
Sugar Hill Gang
KRS-One
2Pac

Lots of great stuff out there. Not all of it is this new-age Nelly/Game/50 Cent "Gangsta" garbage. I can't even listen to all this corporate neo-rap crap. Gotta bring real hip-hop back, y'all!!

Yes, yes, ya'll, and ya don't stop. To the beat y'all, and ya don't stop!!
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 23, 2006 11:42 am    Post subject:

Vancouver Fan wrote:
Socks wrote:
Vancouver Fan wrote:
Socks wrote:
TACH wrote:
Give me ATCQ and the rest of the Native Tongues!!! That's hip-hop...


Throw a little Roots, Common, Outkast, Living Legends crew and a dash of KRS-1 in there, and it's a deal.

Nice another LL Fan up in this ISH.......almost famous boy.....classic!


Yeah Vancouver Fan, I continue to be amazed that these guys don't bust out bigger than they have. I was a big Mystik Journeymen fan and those shows at their digs in Oakland back in the day were amazing. Best live hip-hop show I have been to is either a Roots show I saw in Barcelona or a Journeymen show I saw in SF.

Then Eligh, Aesop, Murs, Grouch, etc. jumped in and it just got even better...

nice....LEGENDS BABY! Black Sands........Mystic Journeyman are dope....lucky has to be the most under rated emcee ever.

you dig anyone else from the west coast underground secne??? Zion i, People Under The Stairs, Del and Hiero, Aceyalone, the coup etc etc etc.....


Yup, all the above, and most of what B_P included in his list above. Just harder to find it these days since there's little to no airplay unless you happen to be in a city with a good underground hip-hop or college station.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 23, 2006 12:03 pm    Post subject:

Socks wrote:
Vancouver Fan wrote:
Socks wrote:
Vancouver Fan wrote:
Socks wrote:
TACH wrote:
Give me ATCQ and the rest of the Native Tongues!!! That's hip-hop...


Throw a little Roots, Common, Outkast, Living Legends crew and a dash of KRS-1 in there, and it's a deal.

Nice another LL Fan up in this ISH.......almost famous boy.....classic!


Yeah Vancouver Fan, I continue to be amazed that these guys don't bust out bigger than they have. I was a big Mystik Journeymen fan and those shows at their digs in Oakland back in the day were amazing. Best live hip-hop show I have been to is either a Roots show I saw in Barcelona or a Journeymen show I saw in SF.

Then Eligh, Aesop, Murs, Grouch, etc. jumped in and it just got even better...

nice....LEGENDS BABY! Black Sands........Mystic Journeyman are dope....lucky has to be the most under rated emcee ever.

you dig anyone else from the west coast underground secne??? Zion i, People Under The Stairs, Del and Hiero, Aceyalone, the coup etc etc etc.....


Yup, all the above, and most of what B_P included in his list above. Just harder to find it these days since there's little to no airplay unless you happen to be in a city with a good underground hip-hop or college station.

Or XM... all those cats mentioned get air play on XM (be it on specific shows)...
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 23, 2006 12:31 pm    Post subject:

RunDMC
Kurtis Blow
UTFO
Grand Master Flash

That's when rap was great. 8)
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 23, 2006 12:41 pm    Post subject:

Someone above mentioned the members but add Freestyle Fellowship to the list.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 23, 2006 1:13 pm    Post subject:

Mainstream rap is garbage, Underground is where it's at. Sadly, people these days really like the mainstream stuff so that's why it works more. Either that, or they haven't heard any underground music. Even though I'm against mainstrea, Jay-z is still my favorite
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 23, 2006 1:20 pm    Post subject:

Ha, yeah Snipes, i can understand the Jay-z thing. I'm not a big fan, but I can recognize he's got a decent and distinctive flow. All he talks about is money, ho's, and nothing in particular, but at least he's got some skill with delivery, beats and hooks.

What I can't stand about a lot of the rappers today is they don't seem to have any skill with writing or rapping. They just have producers come up with beats and talk a lot of nonsense over that beat with computers smoothing out the rough edges. Which basically is the same way Paris Hilton made her current album .

Wow, I sound like a curmudgeony old man.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 23, 2006 1:30 pm    Post subject:

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Ha, yeah Snipes, i can understand the Jay-z thing. I'm not a big fan, but I can recognize he's got a decent and distinctive flow. All he talks about is money, ho's, and nothing in particular, but at least he's got some skill with delivery, beats and hooks.

What I can't stand about a lot of the rappers today is they don't seem to have any skill with writing or rapping. They just have producers come up with beats and talk a lot of nonsense over that beat with computers smoothing out the rough edges. Which basically is the same way Paris Hilton made her current album .

Wow, I sound like a curmudgeony old man.


If that's the case, call me curmudgeon!!!

I listen to hiphop/emcees, not rappers.... there is a difference... a huge difference...

B_P... I hear Pharrell and Kanye are doing most of the track for Mos Def's next album... any truth in that??
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 23, 2006 2:06 pm    Post subject:

I think once a rapper gets popular they usually stop rapping about important things and start rapping about money, ho's, drugs, because it seems like those are the topics that interest the mass audience.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 23, 2006 2:10 pm    Post subject:

TACH wrote:

I listen to hiphop/emcees, not rappers.... there is a difference... a huge difference...


Noooo, not this argument again. It's all rap music. just some is bad, some is good, some is commercially popular, some is more local based, but man its all emcees rapping and rappers emceeing.

TACH wrote:

B_P... I hear Pharrell and Kanye are doing most of the track for Mos Def's next album... any truth in that??


I really hope that's not true

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I think once a rapper gets popular they usually stop rapping about important things and start rapping about money, ho's, drugs, because it seems like those are the topics that interest the mass audience.


such as who?
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