serious odom trade discussion

[venturalakersfan]

The main thing you need if you trade Odom is to replace his rebounding. A big who can board and play defense would do the trick. Someone like KG. Not AK.
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[Omar Little]

Davidse, I have a bit of a bone to pick with you, more than one in fact:

First, if you know that you are posting something that you have only mild belief in, and you admit that you know this will cause a negative response, and you revel in that response from a self-imposed arrogant perch, aren't you in fact trolling? I'm not calling you a troll, because IMO you contribute a lot of well intentioned posts, but throwing something out there that you know will bring negative attacks, and doing so in a way that seems at least partially motivated by a desire to stir people up is definitely trolling (by accepted definition, not my opinion).

Second, how is it that you are the arbiter of how old, relevant, or respectable other posters are? Smarmy, condescending name-calling, and self-important measuring of others doesn't get you my respect.

I respect your opinions, I welcome your musings, I just wish you didn't have to set the ball up on a tee and then call foul when others swing at it.

But that's just my opinion, I could be wrong...
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[wolfpaclaker]

KG, Gasol, JO, EB ... all types of players who I'd be cool with.

But the bottom line is this thread's point is moot. There is just noway I see Phil Jackson trading Odom unless he got something unbelievable in return. AK is a not that type of player who would give us 2 superstars.

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[Dr. Laker]

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[LakerJam]

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[Spanky]

I would do this trade in a heart beat

L.A. Lakers Trade Breakdown

Lamar Odom
17.5 ppg, 8.7 rpg, 4.9 apg in 37.9 minutes

Vladimir Radmanovic
6.5 ppg, 3.0 rpg, 1.0 apg in 17.0 minutes

Chris Mihm
No games yet played in 2006/07

Aaron McKie
0.0 ppg, 0.0 rpg, 0.0 apg in 5.0 minutes

Shammond Williams
0.8 ppg, 0.9 rpg, 0.8 apg in 6.0 minutes

Incoming
Jermaine O'Neal
19.2 ppg, 10.4 rpg, 2.9 apg in 35.7 minutes

Mike Dunleavy
11.4 ppg, 4.8 rpg, 3.0 apg in 27.0 minutes

[venturalakersfan]

[EHL_2]

We don't need Odom to beat the Spurs. We already match up well with them. Defensively a guy like AK, that would add a minimum of 2.5 bpg while playing stellar rotation defense all over the floor is absolutely vital. AK has averaged 8+ rpg at SF twice before in his career so we're not going to be losing much rebounding at all (Odom's averaging 8.7 this season, entirely at PF too). The only problem we'd really face with AK on the team is his learning curve. If he already had 1.5-2 years of triangle experience and was clearly comfortable in the offense, I think there's no question Phil would consider it. His passing, especially, is severely underrated around the league, he does very well even in Sloan's Flex O.

Overall, people using words like "clueless" in this thread shouldn't participate in it. It's low class and unnecessary.

[EHL_2]

^ Also, Gasol is at least as good a passer as Odom in the half court, if not better. Odom adds a fast breaking component to the 4, nothing more than that. Gasol's arguably the best passing big man in the NBA really, that's by far one of his strengths. See his 4.6 apg last year. And AK's 4.3 apg average last year as well.

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[angrypuppy]

AK47 is a good passer, but I have questions as to whether he could adopt to the tri. He had a hard time learning his role on the various pick and roll plays that Sloan would run, which limited his effectiveness in his early years. Damn good player, but he might make Radman look like a tri Summa (bleep) Laude.

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[wolfpaclaker]

Gasol is a very good passer in the highpost or low post. .

However that is the halfcourt slowed down game. Odom's passing is of a different kind - something we lack because we don't have a true PG. You see Odom can create shots for teammates through pushing the break and penetration. This is something only Kobe can do on a consistent basis. In a few years - Jordan Farmar probably too. At that point, you can say Odom's playmaking ability isn't that valuable to the team. As great as the offense is running right now, remember no team is scouting us and preparing for us like it were a playoff series. Once teams do that, they'll take away many passing options in the Triangle. This is when you'll need someone other than Kobe to create. It is at that point that the Lakers will truly benefit from that 2nd guard like player.

At this point in time there is no player out there who would give you everything Odom does BUT that doesn't mean you shouldn't ever trade him. I would trade him for a certain list of impact players, but AK is not one of them.

I also don't think Phil would trade him right now for anything short of a KG, Howard impact player etc. Not even Gasol/JO/EB because they would need alot of time to get re-incoperated and the Lakers are not very talented PG wise. If someone offered something really great, they'd do it. So that's why at this point in the season the only guy I could see the Lakers realistically move Odom for is KG.

[Dude]

[OdomX2]

No one's even broached the chemistry question. Kobe and Lamar are very tight and I wouldn't mess with that chemistry for KG or AK or anyone at this point. Odom deserves the opportunity to ride this wave with this team. He's earned it.

[Dude]

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