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venturalakersfan Retired Number
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Posted: Fri Feb 09, 2007 10:54 am Post subject: |
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I am against any trade scenario that leaves Kwame as our starting center. The guy is just too unreliable, we can't depend on him to play anything close to 80 games a season. _________________ RIP mom. 11-21-1933 to 6-14-2023. |
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Vlade Star Player
Joined: 08 May 2005 Posts: 2373 Location: valley of dry bone dreams
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Posted: Fri Feb 09, 2007 11:21 am Post subject: |
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venturalakersfan wrote: | I am against any trade scenario that leaves Kwame as our starting center. The guy is just too unreliable, we can't depend on him to play anything close to 80 games a season. |
OK, but you'd still have Mihm when he comes back as well as Gasol himself. If you had to, you could trade Lamar instead of Bynum to get Gasol. Either way, getting a true post player who can help us now is what this team needs to make the jump from 2nd tier to first. _________________ -
"All the truth in the world adds up to one big lie." |
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vanexelent Retired Number
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Posted: Fri Feb 09, 2007 11:26 am Post subject: |
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Lamar2Kobe wrote: | Trading Lamar for Gasol would put us in the same position we are in right now and that's relying way to much on 2 players. If you trade Bynum for Gasol now you have 3 Legit players that can take over a game in Kobe ,Lamar ,Gasol. |
I'm convinced. Do it Mitch.
I'm serious too. I don't want to become the Celtics or Bulls or Blazers that worry too much about the future and not about their current team. Bynum may become something real special, but so would those 3 players in our lineup. If we are going to take advantage of Kobe Bryant in his final year of dominant playing, we must deal Bynum now.
But perhaps we could just get KG or Jermaine O'Neil if we were trading Bynum. Who would be the best fit with Kobe and Lamar? |
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emplay Site Staff
Joined: 15 Apr 2001 Posts: 25549
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Posted: Fri Feb 09, 2007 11:41 am Post subject: |
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the lakers won't trade bynum for gasol - it doesn't matter what the fans think - it's not a consideration _________________ Salary Cap Strategist and Columnist at Bleacher Report and on Twitter at http://www.twitter.com/EricPincus |
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Vlade Star Player
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Posted: Fri Feb 09, 2007 1:02 pm Post subject: |
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emplay wrote: | the lakers won't trade bynum for gasol - it doesn't matter what the fans think - it's not a consideration |
so then the question is, would they trade Lamar for Gasol? _________________ -
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emplay Site Staff
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Posted: Fri Feb 09, 2007 1:05 pm Post subject: |
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and the answer is no _________________ Salary Cap Strategist and Columnist at Bleacher Report and on Twitter at http://www.twitter.com/EricPincus |
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KobeDunk Retired Number
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Posted: Fri Feb 09, 2007 1:25 pm Post subject: |
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emplay wrote: | and the answer is no |
SO that means NO Gasol because I'm sure they wont want Kwame and Mihm for him ! |
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rock0100 Star Player
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Posted: Fri Feb 09, 2007 1:52 pm Post subject: |
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emplay wrote: | the lakers won't trade bynum for gasol - it doesn't matter what the fans think - it's not a consideration |
Then they should just trade Kobe for young talent and build around Bynum.
I am just being sarcastic of course, but I have a feeling that the Lakers, without a trade to bring in a true second option, will not be winning a title for the rest of the time that Kobe is here. Seems like a great way to let the best players talent go to waste.
Like you said though, it doesn't matter what we think, I will just have to continue watching and hoping. |
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emplay Site Staff
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Posted: Fri Feb 09, 2007 2:13 pm Post subject: |
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right - no gasol _________________ Salary Cap Strategist and Columnist at Bleacher Report and on Twitter at http://www.twitter.com/EricPincus |
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Posted: Fri Feb 09, 2007 3:28 pm Post subject: |
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Lamar2Kobe wrote: | Trading Lamar for Gasol would put us in the same position we are in right now and that's relying way to much on 2 players. If you trade Bynum for Gasol now you have 3 Legit players that can take over a game in Kobe ,Lamar ,Gasol. |
I disagree.
Right now, the Lakers have a clear #1 scoring option and two #3 scorng options (Lamar and Walton). Only one (Lamar) has decent low-post scoring capabilities and none of the three are shot blockers.
If the Lakers were to acquire Gasol in exchane for Odom, then you would have:
One clear #1 scoring option (Kobe);
One clear #2 scoring option (Gasol); and,
Three clear #3 scoring options (Walton, or Vlad, or Bynum)
Making things better is that Gasol would give the team the benefit of a low-post scorer with the added ability to play the mid-range game. And regardless of whether or not you consider him to be a good defender or not, he's a legitimate shot-blocker who undoubtedly alters other shots as well.
I think that we'd be a much better team.
BTW, when was the last time you saw Lamar "take over" a game? November? |
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Vlade Star Player
Joined: 08 May 2005 Posts: 2373 Location: valley of dry bone dreams
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Posted: Fri Feb 09, 2007 3:53 pm Post subject: |
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And 1 wrote: | Lamar2Kobe wrote: | Trading Lamar for Gasol would put us in the same position we are in right now and that's relying way to much on 2 players. If you trade Bynum for Gasol now you have 3 Legit players that can take over a game in Kobe ,Lamar ,Gasol. |
I disagree.
Right now, the Lakers have a clear #1 scoring option and two #3 scorng options (Lamar and Walton). Only one (Lamar) has decent low-post scoring capabilities and none of the three are shot blockers.
If the Lakers were to acquire Gasol in exchane for Odom, then you would have:
One clear #1 scoring option (Kobe);
One clear #2 scoring option (Gasol); and,
Three clear #3 scoring options (Walton, or Vlad, or Bynum)
Making things better is that Gasol would give the team the benefit of a low-post scorer with the added ability to play the mid-range game. And regardless of whether or not you consider him to be a good defender or not, he's a legitimate shot-blocker who undoubtedly alters other shots as well.
I think that we'd be a much better team.
BTW, when was the last time you saw Lamar "take over" a game? November? |
good post _________________ -
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vanexelent Retired Number
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Posted: Fri Feb 09, 2007 8:10 pm Post subject: |
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Quote: | If the Lakers were to acquire Gasol in exchane for Odom, then you would have:
One clear #1 scoring option (Kobe);
One clear #2 scoring option (Gasol); and,
Three clear #3 scoring options (Walton, or Vlad, or Bynum) |
But then who would shoot 3s and turn the ball over? |
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Deucetre33 Starting Rotation
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tampamike Sixth Man
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Posted: Sat Feb 10, 2007 7:51 am Post subject: |
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Bynum (young talented player), Mihm, McKie, and Shamond (all expiring K) plus a future #1 would get it Gasol IMO.
Next move Kwame and Smush (or Cook) and maybe bobcats 2nd rounder for Andre Miller and we are set.
Miller/Farmar
Kobe/Sasha (Kobe plays 40+ min/gm anyway)
Luke/Evans
Odom/Radman/Cook
Gasol/Turiaf
We can't stop phoenix so we might as well mke sure they can't stop us by having a consistent threat at every spot. This team matches up well with the elite 3 in the West. If we could pry Lawrence Roberts or Hakim Warrick from Memphis as well it would increase our team toughness, but this team is DYNAMITE offensively. |
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GonzagaAlum Star Player
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Ares24 wrote: | not to be rude or anything but why exactly would memphis do this? only way i see them shipping off gasol to LA is if lamar or bynum are included. |
Nostradamus _________________ How can I get a copy of a Laker game played on Sunday, March 11, 2001 Sonics/Lakers? If you know PM me please
I would be willing to pay you for it. |
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