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| wow.... we are so screwed! Our mamagement is asleep at the wheel while other teams get better infront of our face! Look for Kidd to go to another team, as well as Gasol and anyone else we've been debating about. |
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| now that i look at the link... its not a sure thing |
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| The Charlotte Bobcats were finalizing a trade Tuesday morning, and there were initial indications it would involve power forward Melvin Ely going to the San Antonio Spurs. |
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I agree, why can't we trade for a PF that can't buy minutes on one of the worst teams in the league. Especially one who will be a FA after this season, and will likely sign with the highest bidder. :roll:
It makes sense for the Spurs, they are on the verge of competing for a title. But we aren't there yet, so it would be a bad deal for the Lakers.
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| venturalakersfan wrote: | I agree, why can't we trade for a PF that can't buy minutes on one of the worst teams in the league. Especially one who will be a FA after this season, and will likely sign with the highest bidder. :roll:
It makes sense for the Spurs, they are on the verge of competing for a title. But we aren't there yet, so it would be a bad deal for the Lakers. |
AGREED!!! if Kidd comes on board then we will be in a position to attract better free agents this summer to make a good run for the championship next year. Players always look for a better point guard who shares the ball and to allow them to succeed as well. |
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| ELY can't help the Lakers now. |
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| lakerslifer wrote: | | ELY can't help the Lakers now. |
With all due respect, who could help the Lakers now?
Webber couldn't .... it was debated till the very end and look what he's done for the Pistons.
Eddie Jones couldn't .... now hes on the Heat and playing great DEFENSE for them.
Ely can't .... lets see what he does in San Antonio .....
WHO out there can we get realistically to help this team?? We need help and a lot of it especially at the C, PF and the PG positions. |
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| KobeDunk wrote: | | lakerslifer wrote: | | ELY can't help the Lakers now. |
With all due respect, who could help the Lakers now?
Webber couldn't .... it was debated till the very end and look what he's done for the Pistons.
Eddie Jones couldn't .... now hes on the Heat and playing great DEFENSE for them.
Ely can't .... lets see what he does in San Antonio .....
WHO out there can we get realistically to help this team?? We need help and a lot of it especially at the C, PF and the PG positions. |
Pfffttt... 2 of those players could have helped us out but Mitch and Phil's tactics of trying to bring them over failed miserably. We didn't push hard enough for Webber and to see Ely go for that lowly cheap price? Why couldn't we be more proactive when it's clear we need help down low?
I long for the day when we finally have a GM that can get deals done. How long is Dr. Buss and us fans gonna put up with this? 
I wonder if any of the Spurs assistant GM's are available.
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Trade finalized.
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2009 2nd round pick and Eric Williams.
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Ely would have rode the pine for the rest of the season, that is why they did not make a deal. He is not that good if he could not get PT on the bobcats and mid-season deals and the Triangle do not mix- unless the player is a triangle vet.
Remember Jim Jackson?
The Lakers have to make their moves in the offseason. At least we added Vlad Rad & Mo Evans this last summer- a lot better than Vlade D & McKie.
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Ely isn't at the tail end of his career with a bad rep as a teammate like Jim Jackson.
The Spurs got the upgrade they needed because Oberto wasn't cutting it.
Ely would've gotten PT, considering Kwame and Walton are out.
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| Mike@LG wrote: | Ely isn't at the tail end of his career with a bad rep as a teammate like Jim Jackson.
The Spurs got the upgrade they needed because Oberto wasn't cutting it.
Ely would've gotten PT, considering Kwame and Walton are out. |
I seriously doubt Ely would get ANY playing time, even with Kwame and Walton being out, Mike. You would play him ahead of Ronny?
The Spurs have nobody, absolutely nobody, to play with TD upfront. So, they took Eric williams (who did not play either) and traded "lets' see what comes out of it". With Elson getting healthy, i anticipate Ely getting as much PT as Eric williams: nada |
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^Apparently, Ronny's injuries are serious enough to limit his own PT, let alone the fact that he's foul prone.
Elson isn't a 40mpg player.
Ely has far more skill than him.
Eric Williams was a tiny band-aid that didn't allow Duncan to play PF at all.
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| Mike@LG wrote: | ^Apparently, Ronny's injuries are serious enough to limit his own PT, let alone the fact that he's foul prone.
Elson isn't a 40mpg player.
Ely has far more skill than him.
Eric Williams was a tiny band-aid that didn't allow Duncan to play PF at all. |
Ely has more skills than Elson? - Very possible, even most likely. Yet, this guy, ever since his Clippers time, never striked me as a hard working BB player.
We'll see, Mike. For now, it is a speculation on both our parts. |
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Ronny has chronically sore hips. I doubt he can play starter minutes for an entire season or even the remainder of this season.
Ronny is PF that can play C in spots.
Ely is a legit 6'10" and bigger than Ronny. He is a slightly undersized C than can defend the 4. But his J ain't good enough to be a legit 4.
He has a full array of post moves and can score with either hand.
He can defend all but the biggest Cs and can swat a little.
Many on this board have been saying Ely does not come with Bird rights so everybody has the same shot at him in free agency. Therefore his value dropped.
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| Quote: | Ely has more skills than Elson? - Very possible, even most likely. Yet, this guy, ever since his Clippers time, never striked me as a hard working BB player.
We'll see, Mike. For now, it is a speculation on both our parts. |
Are you kidding? Like Elson ever had a post game?
Ely had more post game out of Fresno State than Elson does right now.
Forget about the "hard work". Elson is a 5ppg 5rpg in 19 minutes player.
Ely when given the PT has shown to be a stronger offensive force in the same relative amount of PT.
No speculation. Ely > Elson in the skills department.
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