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thumpinghead
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 Posted: Sat Oct 13, 2007 11:56 am Post subject: Jerry Buss has always made money by creating a buzz. |
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And Jerry Buss is still trying to make money by creating a buzz. The "Kobe is not untouchable" comments were simply put out there to achieve that end. Look at how the Lakers are the talk of NBA chatter yet again. And the Lakers are not even a championship caliber team, but still Buss finds a way to create a buzz for his team and get people to watch his team.
Kobe is also guilty of creating drama for his own profits, Jacksoon too. As Luke Walton is recently quoted, "it's LA." And thats all the explaining on how the Lakers make money with drama alone, despite in a losing situation.
I doubt Kobe goes anywhere right away, Jerry Buss has us, employees and fans alike, by the balls, and he might hold us there as long as Kobe is on Buss's payroll! 
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Are you serious? 
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So I guess you think a negative buzz is good for business huh?
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| Vlade wrote: | | So I guess you think a negative buzz is good for business huh? |
any news is good news, just spell our name right
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thumpinghead
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| Vlade wrote: | | So I guess you think a negative buzz is good for business huh? |
sit back and enjoy the show, and dont take it so seriously everybody...
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| Posted: Sat Oct 13, 2007 1:27 pm Post subject: Re: Jerry Buss is trying to make money by creating a buzz. |
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| thumpinghead wrote: | | Jerry Buss is trying to make money by creating a buzz. The "Kobe is not untouchable" comments were simply put out there to achieve that end. Look at how the Lakers are the talk of NBA chatter yet again. And the Lakers are not even a championship caliber team, but still Buss finds a way to create a buzz for his team and get people to watch his team. |
The Lakers already sell out their games.
The Lakers are the biggest road draw.
Their TV deals are already in place.
They have always been a team that gets attention no matter what.
Sorry, but there is no additonal money to be made from "buzz". |
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| Posted: Sat Oct 13, 2007 1:39 pm Post subject: Re: Jerry Buss is trying to make money by creating a buzz. |
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| thumpinghead wrote: | Jerry Buss is trying to make money by creating a buzz. The "Kobe is not untouchable" comments were simply put out there to achieve that end. Look at how the Lakers are the talk of NBA chatter yet again. And the Lakers are not even a championship caliber team, but still Buss finds a way to create a buzz for his team and get people to watch his team.
Kobe is also guilty of creating drama for his own profits, Jacksoon too. As Luke Walton is recently quoted, "it's LA." And thats all the explaining on how the Lakers make money with drama alone, despite in a losing situation.
I doubt Kobe goes anywhere right away, Jerry Buss has us, employees and fans alike, by the balls, and he might hold us there as long as Kobe is on Buss's payroll! |
Ridiculous hypothesis!!
Not a good formula for long term success.
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thumpinghead
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True Jerry Buss has never been in this position before; that is, to lose the only superstar on the team but he is in an "I'm all in" situation now indeed because the Lakers would NOT sell out without Kobe.
The reason why the Lakers have always received attention is because Jerry creates a Buzz for his team. I love Jerry Buss. I hate the unfounded hate here, the Lakers are entertainment and Dr. Buss knows it. He is a smart business man. By implying maybe KB will be traded, maybe not, so many fans are waiting in anticipation.
Buss used a bad situation and made it good publicity for his team, he created anticipation, talk. I think KB will be traded next summer if the Lakers don't come very close to making the west finals this year.
But you never know, so stay tuned!
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| Posted: Sat Oct 13, 2007 1:58 pm Post subject: Re: Jerry Buss is trying to make money by creating a buzz. |
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| DaMuleRules wrote: | | thumpinghead wrote: | | Jerry Buss is trying to make money by creating a buzz. The "Kobe is not untouchable" comments were simply put out there to achieve that end. Look at how the Lakers are the talk of NBA chatter yet again. And the Lakers are not even a championship caliber team, but still Buss finds a way to create a buzz for his team and get people to watch his team. |
The Lakers already sell out their games.
The Lakers are the biggest road draw.
Their TV deals are already in place.
They have always been a team that gets attention no matter what.
Sorry, but there is no additonal money to be made from "buzz". |
well said.
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| Posted: Sat Oct 13, 2007 2:57 pm Post subject: Re: Jerry Buss has always made money by creating a buzz. |
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| thumpinghead wrote: | And Jerry Buss is still trying to make money by creating a buzz. The "Kobe is not untouchable" comments were simply put out there to achieve that end. Look at how the Lakers are the talk of NBA chatter yet again. And the Lakers are not even a championship caliber team, but still Buss finds a way to create a buzz for his team and get people to watch his team.
Kobe is also guilty of creating drama for his own profits, Jacksoon too. As Luke Walton is recently quoted, "it's LA." And thats all the explaining on how the Lakers make money with drama alone, despite in a losing situation.
I doubt Kobe goes anywhere right away, Jerry Buss has us, employees and fans alike, by the balls, and he might hold us there as long as Kobe is on Buss's payroll! |
I don't think it's about buzz with the good dr. Think about it. Buss was flat out called a liar by Kobe. Yet, at least as far as I know, he never really directly responded to such an insult...until now. I think the good dr. is setting the stage for his ultimate response to Kobe: time to go! |
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| Posted: Sat Oct 13, 2007 3:45 pm Post subject: Re: Jerry Buss has always made money by creating a buzz. |
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| thumpinghead wrote: | And Jerry Buss is still trying to make money by creating a buzz. The "Kobe is not untouchable" comments were simply put out there to achieve that end. Look at how the Lakers are the talk of NBA chatter yet again. And the Lakers are not even a championship caliber team, but still Buss finds a way to create a buzz for his team and get people to watch his team.
Kobe is also guilty of creating drama for his own profits, Jacksoon too. As Luke Walton is recently quoted, "it's LA." And thats all the explaining on how the Lakers make money with drama alone, despite in a losing situation.
I doubt Kobe goes anywhere right away, Jerry Buss has us, employees and fans alike, by the balls, and he might hold us there as long as Kobe is on Buss's payroll! |
More likely there is no big agenda to all this. A reporter simply asked Buss a question and Buss simply said what he really thinks. That's one of the benefits of being old and rich -- you don't have to give a darn what anyone thinks. |
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You know what truly shows me Buss is all about Money? He only made this announcement of Bryant not being untouchable after the Tickets had been sold. He knew if he made that statement before then alto of people would rethink buying their tickets. Smart businessman but he has no integrity for the game. It's all about MONEY, MONEY and More Money.
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| melo061 wrote: | | You know what truly shows me Buss is all about Money? He only made this announcement of Bryant not being untouchable after the Tickets had been sold. He knew if he made that statement before then alto of people would rethink buying their tickets. Smart businessman but he has no integrity for the game. It's all about MONEY, MONEY and More Money. |
LMFAO- He said it now because he will get better offers. hes smarter than you. believe me. Even Cubes said as much and hes smarter than everyone.
Making it public gets offers. We want offers. we own Kobe for 2 years.
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| Posted: Sat Oct 13, 2007 7:30 pm Post subject: Re: Jerry Buss has always made money by creating a buzz. |
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| activeverb wrote: | | thumpinghead wrote: | And Jerry Buss is still trying to make money by creating a buzz. The "Kobe is not untouchable" comments were simply put out there to achieve that end. Look at how the Lakers are the talk of NBA chatter yet again. And the Lakers are not even a championship caliber team, but still Buss finds a way to create a buzz for his team and get people to watch his team.
Kobe is also guilty of creating drama for his own profits, Jacksoon too. As Luke Walton is recently quoted, "it's LA." And thats all the explaining on how the Lakers make money with drama alone, despite in a losing situation.
I doubt Kobe goes anywhere right away, Jerry Buss has us, employees and fans alike, by the balls, and he might hold us there as long as Kobe is on Buss's payroll! |
More likely there is no big agenda to all this. A reporter simply asked Buss a question and Buss simply said what he really thinks. That's one of the benefits of being old and rich -- you don't have to give a darn what anyone thinks. |
I disagree. I too believe that Buss had an agenda here, and while he really, in my opinion, said things that could be considered common knowledge (Bryant demanded to be traded, they spoke, Buss said that they would not trade Bryant without fair compensation, Bryant acknowledged that fact, Buss made his case, Bryant still wanted to be traded, Buss said he would listen to offers), he said it for a reason. He hadn't spoken all offseason about the trade. Why would he come out of hiding to make this statement, even though it stated the obvious?
Well, he had to speak eventually. If he spoke in the offseason it would make an impact on ticket sales, so the franchise took the stance that they would not trade Kobe no matter what. Another sellout for Lakers season tickets resulted. Now Buss must speak, the choice is preseason or during the season. If this occurs during the season, it could have negative effects for a couple weeks until things blow over, a couple losses could start snowballing into a losing streak. So instead, he does it during the preseason, allowing enough recovery time for things to smooth out by the time the season starts. It does generate a buzz, and you know what they say, any publicity is good publicity.
I am a Lakers fan first and foremost, and while I know that Kobe is the best player in the league, he has become such a big distraction to the team and chemistry that its really starting to affect on court activities. He put the Lakers in a situation where it would be more difficult than normal to attain free agents and/or make a trade. He calls out young players to strangers, claims to apologize to Bynum, when in actuality he never even spoke to the guy. I believe that Bynum handled the situation more like a man than Kobe did, the same guy who had the audacity to say that the 19 year old kid is too young to know how to use a phone, so he sent a text message (despite the fact that he didn't). Insulting a teammates intelligence while lying to look better as an individual in front of the media. Is that what leaders of teams do?
As a Lakers fan, I want to see the Lakers do the best regardless of what players they have, I will support the players on the team but there comes a time when the team needs to move forward. I supported trading Shaq, it made sense, you either keep Shaq and lose Kobe for nothing, or you keep Kobe and trade Shaq for the best you can get. That decided the face of the franchise for the next five years. This year will decide the face of the franchise for the next decade.
This team is facing a huge amount of pressure to turn last years disappointing season into a season worthy of WCF nominations. If not, I don't see how Kobe could possibly stay, and even if they do thats not a sure bet that he does stay.
Buss will never be able to attain a player of Kobe's talents nor his drawing power in terms of sales through a trade for anyone except maybe LeBron. And that is not happening. People sometimes forget that this is a business. Buss wants to win, and he knows that Kobe does all he can to win. But you can only keep a disgruntled employee for so long, no matter how talented he is, if he is slandering other employees and the owners. Kobe represents the Lakers, and now he is affecting how other players and businesses look at the Lakers.
KG said he didn't want to go to the Lakers because of concerns with how he can work alongside the management. This has probably crossed the minds of many other free agents who would like to play for the Lakers, but are concerned in doing so. And if this turns out to affect the decisions of potential sponsors? Major money loss. The one guy that can be most to blame for not attaining KG or any other big names, is likely Bryant himself. He removed any leverage the Lakers had in receiving fair value. All other owners looked at any trade offered by the Lakers as something the Lakers were FORCED to do to please Kobe. They knew that the Lakers had their hands tied behind their backs, seeing weakness and doing all they can to take advantage of it.
We all love to see Kobe Bryant play, he is a one of a kind player, but at what cost will we endure Kobe's antics? He is so talented that he has gotten a lot of slack in the way he acts. When does that slack run out? I think its sooner than later, and as a business owner you have to figure out when to cut your ties before your ties cut you. |
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I thought it was pretty obvious that Buss was trying to use his comments as a way to get some leverage back in trade talks for players to surround Kobe... albeit a feeble attempt. You figure if the Lakers can come across as not being joined at the hip to Kobe, then perhaps teams won't hold a gun to their head in trade talks...
I also thought Kobe's lack of response was telling. Normally, he'd run to the mountain tops when something like this comes out in the media... Last thing Kobe wants is to get upstaged in the media... that is unless Buss had informed Kobe of his comments in advance. |
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| Vlade wrote: | | So I guess you think a negative buzz is good for business huh? |
Any publicity is good publicity.
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He doesnt need more money then he allready has , he just wants to start a bidding war..
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| hi_ma wrote: | | melo061 wrote: | | You know what truly shows me Buss is all about Money? He only made this announcement of Bryant not being untouchable after the Tickets had been sold. He knew if he made that statement before then alto of people would rethink buying their tickets. Smart businessman but he has no integrity for the game. It's all about MONEY, MONEY and More Money. |
LMFAO- He said it now because he will get better offers. hes smarter than you. believe me. Even Cubes said as much and hes smarter than everyone.
Making it public gets offers. We want offers. we own Kobe for 2 years. |
No , i don't believe you.
The guy is about money. He made these comments after the tickets were sold. He said on his hands and was drinking up with his 20 year old girls while team was sunk in mediocrity. He is living the high life and has not been involved in the lakers like he has in the past.
Admit it. Buss doesn't give a bleep about Winning anymore. At this stage, he is trying to milk the most out of bryant and then deal him and then give the reigns to his Children.
(bleep) you and your family buss. I'm praying your sell the team so we can end your bleeping era.
Lakers> Kobe
Lakers> Buss
Lakers Were successful well before this tyrant bought the team. Don't make Buss sound like he is the saviour of the Laker's.
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| melo061 wrote: | | hi_ma wrote: | | melo061 wrote: | | You know what truly shows me Buss is all about Money? He only made this announcement of Bryant not being untouchable after the Tickets had been sold. He knew if he made that statement before then alto of people would rethink buying their tickets. Smart businessman but he has no integrity for the game. It's all about MONEY, MONEY and More Money. |
LMFAO- He said it now because he will get better offers. hes smarter than you. believe me. Even Cubes said as much and hes smarter than everyone.
Making it public gets offers. We want offers. we own Kobe for 2 years. |
No , i don't believe you.
The guy is about money. He made these comments after the tickets were sold. He said on his hands and was drinking up with his 20 year old girls while team was sunk in mediocrity. He is living the high life and has not been involved in the lakers like he has in the past.
Admit it. Buss doesn't give a bleep about Winning anymore. At this stage, he is trying to milk the most out of bryant and then deal him and then give the reigns to his Children.
(bleep) you and your family buss. I'm praying your sell the team so we can end your bleeping era.
Lakers> Kobe
Lakers> Buss
Lakers Were successful well before this tyrant bought the team. Don't make Buss sound like he is the saviour of the Laker's. |
Your over reacting ,we can't understand what he thinks , money or winning , but cursing ain't gonna solve anything..
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| Al-Mbarak8 wrote: | | melo061 wrote: | | hi_ma wrote: | | melo061 wrote: | | You know what truly shows me Buss is all about Money? He only made this announcement of Bryant not being untouchable after the Tickets had been sold. He knew if he made that statement before then alto of people would rethink buying their tickets. Smart businessman but he has no integrity for the game. It's all about MONEY, MONEY and More Money. |
LMFAO- He said it now because he will get better offers. hes smarter than you. believe me. Even Cubes said as much and hes smarter than everyone.
Making it public gets offers. We want offers. we own Kobe for 2 years. |
No , i don't believe you.
The guy is about money. He made these comments after the tickets were sold. He said on his hands and was drinking up with his 20 year old girls while team was sunk in mediocrity. He is living the high life and has not been involved in the lakers like he has in the past.
Admit it. Buss doesn't give a bleep about Winning anymore. At this stage, he is trying to milk the most out of bryant and then deal him and then give the reigns to his Children.
(bleep) you and your family buss. I'm praying your sell the team so we can end your bleeping era.
Lakers> Kobe
Lakers> Buss
Lakers Were successful well before this tyrant bought the team. Don't make Buss sound like he is the saviour of the Laker's. |
Your over reacting ,we can't understand what he thinks , money or winning , but cursing ain't gonna solve anything.. |
I just hate this mentality that Buss is some godly figure who made the Laker's what they were. Very annoying. He was behind the Drafting of Magic and so he has a big part of Show time. However, it was Jerry who got guys like Worthy, Scott, Thompson etc. It was Jerry West who after he saw Bryant in workout said the boy would be an all time great and made a deal. It was he who got Shaq.
What has happened since Jerry Left? Bling Dynasty faltered because talent pool surrounding them faded and There was zero depth in 2002-2003. I mean, having Samaki Walker play be a rotation play is sickening and Horry because of the lack of Depth was dead come playoff time. Then Shaq got dealt and it is 121-125 with multiple blown MLES and No trades to help the team being done. It started going down hill when Jerry Left.
Lakers were great before Buss bought the team so if he isn't living up what the Lakers are supposed to be about then i'm not going to support him.
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| melo061 wrote: | | Al-Mbarak8 wrote: | | melo061 wrote: | | hi_ma wrote: | | melo061 wrote: | | You know what truly shows me Buss is all about Money? He only made this announcement of Bryant not being untouchable after the Tickets had been sold. He knew if he made that statement before then alto of people would rethink buying their tickets. Smart businessman but he has no integrity for the game. It's all about MONEY, MONEY and More Money. |
LMFAO- He said it now because he will get better offers. hes smarter than you. believe me. Even Cubes said as much and hes smarter than everyone.
Making it public gets offers. We want offers. we own Kobe for 2 years. |
No , i don't believe you.
The guy is about money. He made these comments after the tickets were sold. He said on his hands and was drinking up with his 20 year old girls while team was sunk in mediocrity. He is living the high life and has not been involved in the lakers like he has in the past.
Admit it. Buss doesn't give a bleep about Winning anymore. At this stage, he is trying to milk the most out of bryant and then deal him and then give the reigns to his Children.
(bleep) you and your family buss. I'm praying your sell the team so we can end your bleeping era.
Lakers> Kobe
Lakers> Buss
Lakers Were successful well before this tyrant bought the team. Don't make Buss sound like he is the saviour of the Laker's. |
Your over reacting ,we can't understand what he thinks , money or winning , but cursing ain't gonna solve anything.. |
I just hate this mentality that Buss is some godly figure who made the Laker's what they were. Very annoying. He was behind the Drafting of Magic and so he has a big part of Show time. However, it was Jerry who got guys like Worthy, Scott, Thompson etc. It was Jerry West who after he saw Bryant in workout said the boy would be an all time great and made a deal. It was he who got Shaq.
What has happened since Jerry Left? Bling Dynasty faltered because talent pool surrounding them faded and There was zero depth in 2002-2003. I mean, having Samaki Walker play be a rotation play is sickening and Horry because of the lack of Depth was dead come playoff time. Then Shaq got dealt and it is 121-125 with multiple blown MLES and No trades to help the team being done. It started going down hill when Jerry Left.
Lakers were great before Buss bought the team so if he isn't living up what the Lakers are supposed to be about then i'm not going to support him. |
While what your saying is true , maybe he'll sell the team to a company that just makes this franchise a financial buisness..I still think that Jerry Buss can still repair the damage that has been done , its only a matter of time till we see what happens..
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| Posted: Sun Oct 14, 2007 11:27 am Post subject: Re: Jerry Buss has always made money by creating a buzz. |
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| thumpinghead wrote: | And Jerry Buss is still trying to make money by creating a buzz. The "Kobe is not untouchable" comments were simply put out there to achieve that end. Look at how the Lakers are the talk of NBA chatter yet again. And the Lakers are not even a championship caliber team, but still Buss finds a way to create a buzz for his team and get people to watch his team.
Kobe is also guilty of creating drama for his own profits, Jacksoon too. As Luke Walton is recently quoted, "it's LA." And thats all the explaining on how the Lakers make money with drama alone, despite in a losing situation.
I doubt Kobe goes anywhere right away, Jerry Buss has us, employees and fans alike, by the balls, and he might hold us there as long as Kobe is on Buss's payroll! |
I'm wondering why Buss did not let Mitch let the cat out of the bag , regarding Kobe being untouchable.
Kobe would have pooped his pants. |
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