detroit's draft picks: reebok SL

jeremysnow · Star Player Joined: 27 Jun 2002 Posts: 7079

disgusting! how is detroit drafting these gems?

the pistons drafted late. who'd they get?

jason maxiell 26th, alex acker 60th & amir johnson 56th.

IMO, at some point in time, all three players will be playing in the nba & eventually making solid contributions (especially maxiell & acker).

wow, this maxiel kid has major skills.

jason maxiel might not get much PT with almost all the pistons coming back (many of you know how much I dislike the pistons). but to sit and watch this las vegas summer league, in awe of jason maxiel, who along with nate robinson, might be two of the very best players, in this reebok SL.

and the worst part of all, are these players are pistons!

L33T kObE8 · Posted: Sat Jul 16, 2005 11:31 pm Post subject:

We didn't do too bad either my friend, don't be jealous.

corral301 · Sixth Man Joined: 27 Jun 2005 Posts: 93

They have a long way to go to make up for Darko though. Delfino is not looking so hot right now either.

OPMSm0k3r · Starting Rotation Joined: 17 Jun 2005 Posts: 509

Maxiell is gonna have a tough time in the league. He's much too unathletic to be able to make a contribution. Maybe will get 10mpg at the most...if that. Actually, that all depends on if Brown wants to play him. We all know that Brown hates rookies.

lionballer7 · Star Player Joined: 24 Jun 2005 Posts: 1684

HOw is Delfino looking? Does anyone know how well has he looked in the summer league?

jeremysnow · Star Player Joined: 27 Jun 2002 Posts: 7079

L33T: they've done VERY well; they're nba finalists, have a championship calibre team intact; picked 26th, 46th & 50th and these draft picks look very good.

corral301: delfino's working more on his passing and hopes to get minutes, following his injury of last year. darko, won't get the minutes behind wallace(s), mcDyess, maxiell, etc. darko has bulked up significantly. however,

jeremysnow · Star Player Joined: 27 Jun 2002 Posts: 7079

lionballer: delfino is looking to distribute more than score. also on the upside, his outlet passes off of rebounds looks promising. delfino on several occasions has looked up the court and pinpoint the passes; one even to a "streaking darko"

(for a dunk)

delfino apparently been advised to work on specific parts of his game by larry brown and joe dumars; so he is NOT specifically trying to impress the coaching by scoring.

Drifts · Retired Number Joined: 22 Nov 2004 Posts: 28374

is Brown a lock to comeback?

Mike@LG · Posted: Sun Jul 17, 2005 9:41 am Post subject:

Maxiell is like Turiaf... just shorter with better footwork and certainly more skilled in the post.

Acker is a quick SG with a jumper. That's all it really boils down to. Peeler JR.

Amir Johnson? Athletic big.
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angel · Posted: Sun Jul 17, 2005 5:19 pm Post subject:

Unfortunltely for them, SPL is not the NBA. Even so, Darko did poor in SPL.
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L33T kObE8 · Posted: Sun Jul 17, 2005 5:59 pm Post subject:

jeremysnow · Star Player Joined: 27 Jun 2002 Posts: 7079

if you want to communicate fine; if not, then consider your ending comments, akin to that of a backhand compliment.

comments like yours have a way of starting infantile debates; if that's your intention, then don't expect me to acknowledge any more of you inane comments.

I'll do you a favor by not responding any further to any of your comments.

jeremysnow · Star Player Joined: 27 Jun 2002 Posts: 7079

I'll revisit this thread in december 05.

remember the comments are in regards to maxiell & acker.

Not darko!!!

targetman · Star Player Joined: 04 Sep 2004 Posts: 5503

Is Amir Johnson the high schooler from the LA area? I didn't know he entered the draft. Asleep at the switch I guess.

LakersMD · Star Player Joined: 27 Jun 2003 Posts: 8014

^ He stayed in the draft because he couldn't qualify academically for college.

B_P · Posted: Mon Jul 18, 2005 5:45 am Post subject:

jeremysnow...

I LOVE Jason Maxiell!! I wanted him sooo badly with our 37th pick, but of course, Detroit snagged him early - and they got themselves one HELL of a player! He's not the biggest cat out there, but he is VERY strong, VERY physical and can really leap to aggressively block shots. He's even shown in the SPL that he can hit the perimeter J or take his man off-the-dribble a little bit. He's the typical Cincinati player - he's super-aggressive, very athletic and is intense on defense. I don't think he'll ever be a full-time starter in the NBA, but man, what a great player to have coming off your bench. But with that said, I think we got a pretty good player in Ronny Turaif - who's bigger, runs the floor better and has better passing and court awareness than Maxiell. I'm VERY happy with Ronny!!

Acker is just a solid, unselfish, big combo-guard who just likes to get others involved, play strong perimeter D and hit the open shot. I kinda see him as a Brian Shaw-type. He'll just be a solid guard who's ability to do the little things and make others better should keep him in the league for a long time. Frankly, I didn't think he'd even get drafted, so it just goes to show that Joe Dumars is quite a talent finder. Once again, at #39, IMO, I would have gone with Orien Greene, but Von Wafer is showing he can explode offensively, but Acker's D and unselfishness is really nice, so it's too early to really tell.

I was actually a little surprised to see that Amir fell as far as 56. He's big, skilled and very athletic. The pick could be seen by some as a "risk" because he's so raw and young, but that late in the 2nd round, that's when you take risks. With a kid like Amir, it's really all up to him. He's in a great organization with a lot of quality people around him, so it's all up to him to embrace his situation and grow as a baketball player. If he has a strong work ethic, the sky's the limit for him. Very smart pick at 56 - even if he doesn't pan out.

In general, I've just been totally impressed with Joe D - who, IMO, is a modern-day Jerry West. Joe did a little coal mining and may have unearthed himself a couple of diamonds.

jeremysnow · Star Player Joined: 27 Jun 2002 Posts: 7079

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tgf5 · Posted: Tue Jul 19, 2005 11:00 pm Post subject:

I remember when Delfino came in a lot of people were optimistic about him. Though remembering the playoffs, he really pissed off Larry Brown. I can say he's not a gem.

jeremysnow · Star Player Joined: 27 Jun 2002 Posts: 7079

delfino, looked ok to average in the SL games that I'd watched. however, he's has NOT been overly impressive.

maxiell looks like a player!!! so does acker. I also like what I see in johnson. (hope he can maintain a high level of motivation, in order to remain at the nba level).

sodapoppenski · Posted: Tue Jul 19, 2005 11:04 pm Post subject:

Not saying I don't think Detroit drafted well this year.

Just saying, how you pick with a #2 overall is a HUGE, HUGE thing. That flat out can KILL how you draft for years afterwards, especially if you don't have another top 10 pick to work with.

That single player is potentially a franchise guy, and they screwed it up.

I was just pointing out, as others have already, that Detroit's drafting well the last couple years is still only STARTING to make up for missing all the players they could have drafted in PLACE of Darko.

I already have mentioned, albeit awhile back and prior to the draft, that I liked Maxiell going into the draft. Then again, I'm not so sure I'd give up Turiaf or even Wafer now that I've seen them both play.

Maxiell can post his numbers in the SPL, but being undersized as he is will hinder him further in the actual NBA. Do I still think he was a smart pick for the Pistons? Definately.

Just saying, I bet you they'd give up every pick they made and pick again if they could get a do over on Darko.

Soda

jeremysnow · Star Player Joined: 27 Jun 2002 Posts: 7079

sodapoppenski · Posted: Tue Jul 19, 2005 11:19 pm Post subject:

Fair enough man, I just read your original post again and you're right, it's only really talking about this year's picks from the Pistons.

My bad, I was pretty much just responding to some of the other things people had said and didn't realize you'd meant to just talk about this year.

For what it's worth though, besides the point or not, if we're gonna go off on the Pistons being all genius in the draft (and yeah generally they're pretty solid lately), ya just can't ignore how terrible (and critical) a pick Darko was for them.

Soda

jeremysnow · Star Player Joined: 27 Jun 2002 Posts: 7079

for that matter, you can't ignore that portland drafted sam bowie instead of jordan.

milicic was NOT worth the pick. it's only lately that dumars has removed a few of the last pieces of tar 'n feathers on him.

IMO, the scouts of many teams did an exemplary job assessing the talent of this deep draft.

or was it luck? e.g. turiaf (luck) vs. wafer (I think this was good scouting; wafer looks to be a nice pickup, that dropped below the radar (for several reasons; some apparently unjustified).

problem also for wafer, this was a deep draft.

hope wafer turns out.