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Yes
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No
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 18, 2005 8:23 pm    Post subject:

H.E. Pennypacker wrote:
Mitch did blow a draft pick on him because he was on no one else's radar thus we could picked him up as a rookie free agent.

Stupid Mitch, general managing is for smart folks!


You must be joking.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 18, 2005 8:25 pm    Post subject:

I wish I were, but we should have drafted that Roko Ginobili guy. Wafer could have been signed as camp fodder.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 18, 2005 8:29 pm    Post subject:

Yeah, Roko is really lighting it up out there.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 18, 2005 8:31 pm    Post subject:

Im pretty shocked that this many people voted yes.

True Von is tearing it up the last couple games and has been solid throughout the SPL, I didnt know much about him and I have to say I am pleasantly surprised.

But playing this well in a summer league basically just means you earn a roster spot and not a starting spot especially at PG when it seems to me he is a SG.

I was worried we may not have a decent backup for Kobe but it appears we have found one in Von, he will make the team and give us a nice spark off the bench, hopefully as our poor man's Ben Gordon.

But starting him at PG is a big no no IMO.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 18, 2005 8:34 pm    Post subject:

you can't be serious this kid wafer looks like a player. i can see him developing and possibly starting my mid to late season. not likely but possible. i mean look at the young guys out of HS that half way through the season developed. and remeber the triangle is an easy postion to play the point. i mean really good performances out of not so great players. paxon, kerr, fisher, shaw, a halfway dead harper. he won;t start the season but it looks like a great pick i owe mitch an apologize casue i was crying for taft
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 18, 2005 8:35 pm    Post subject:

Von Wafer is a gem!

http://forums.lakersground.net/viewtopic.php?t=5038
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 18, 2005 8:37 pm    Post subject:

vicman wrote:
you can't be serious this kid wafer looks like a player. i can see him developing and possibly starting my mid to late season. not likely but possible. i mean look at the young guys out of HS that half way through the season developed. and remeber the triangle is an easy postion to play the point. i mean really good performances out of not so great players. paxon, kerr, fisher, shaw, a halfway dead harper. he won;t start the season but it looks like a great pick i owe mitch an apologize casue i was crying for taft


I owe Mitch an apology too, I didnt know anything about Von.

But...

Call me Phil Jackson but I dont like starting rookies, let him be our Ben Gordon and give us the O off the bench....we have no scorers off the bench and Im hoping Von can fill that role.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 18, 2005 8:41 pm    Post subject:

I would..it'll be fun to watch. Might as well start Bynum too. Realistically, the lakers wont win the championship within the next two years.. Throw these young guys out there and BAM!! 2007 here we come..
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 18, 2005 8:55 pm    Post subject:

we finally get what "appears" to be some promising young rookies around here instead of all the junk we've had in the past (Rush,walton,cook,etc) and everyone wants to throw em into the fire especially in LA.

it would be nice to finally have some young athletic rooks on the bench (taurif, bynum, Wafer) learning the pro game behind seasoned vets, give them the two seasons to develope with just enough playing time, and make em learn how to be real profesionals....like the old school way! we saw what happened to Kwame brown by rushing him in, now its our team trying to rehabilitate the youngster....let the kids learn!
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 18, 2005 9:15 pm    Post subject:

Please, summer ball hardly means squat. And I don't think there are enough shots to go around with he and Kobe in the same backcourt. He would be better off the bench, when Kobe sits, giving us some bench scoring.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 18, 2005 9:19 pm    Post subject:

Woohoo I broke the tie, it was 34-34 and I voted yes. I can't really say if he's ready to start right now, but I think eventually he will be able to start. Kobe and Lamar are going to be bringing the ball up the court, so all Von needs to do is defend and hit the open jumpers.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 18, 2005 9:19 pm    Post subject:

You gotta throw them into the fire. Kobe ain't getting any younger. The longer you take to develop them the more you'll waste Kobe's prime, it's that simple.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 18, 2005 9:23 pm    Post subject:

what were kobe's spl stats?
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 18, 2005 9:24 pm    Post subject:

Ko8e8ryant wrote:
vicman wrote:
you can't be serious this kid wafer looks like a player. i can see him developing and possibly starting my mid to late season. not likely but possible. i mean look at the young guys out of HS that half way through the season developed. and remeber the triangle is an easy postion to play the point. i mean really good performances out of not so great players. paxon, kerr, fisher, shaw, a halfway dead harper. he won;t start the season but it looks like a great pick i owe mitch an apologize casue i was crying for taft


I owe Mitch an apology too, I didnt know anything about Von.

But...

Call me Phil Jackson but I dont like starting rookies, let him be our Ben Gordon and give us the O off the bench....we have no scorers off the bench and Im hoping Von can fill that role.


Phil Jackson himself has said that the only reason he didn't start rookies in the past was because he never had to. He always had veterans with a better understanding of the game. When the Lakers needed some outside shooting in the series-clinching game against Minny, he put Rush in. When they needed better ball movement in the Finals against Detroit, he put Luke in. Phil will play whoever deserves to be on the floor, whether they're a rookie or not.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 18, 2005 9:25 pm    Post subject:

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I owe Mitch an apology too, I didnt know anything about Von.

But...

Call me Phil Jackson but I dont like starting rookies, let him be our Ben Gordon and give us the O off the bench....we have no scorers off the bench and Im hoping Von can fill that role.[/quote]

i agree but if he proves he can start by mid season than why not. obviously it is early but if he shows during training camp and the ealry season that he can give us. 20-25 minutes a game. 10 backing up kobe and 10-15 at the point that would be huge. it give us more options to work with the pg postion. go younger with the other Fa pickups
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 18, 2005 9:26 pm    Post subject:

H.E. Pennypacker wrote:
NVE can't give you more than 20 mins a night and 50 games a year at this stage.

JALEN ROSE could be this team's saviour!!!

If not, then.......

1) Suns
2) Warriors
3) Kings
4) LAKERS
5) Clippers


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PostPosted: Mon Jul 18, 2005 9:31 pm    Post subject:

Wait till 20 games into the season.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 18, 2005 9:43 pm    Post subject:

Let's face it, Wafer is strictly a backup, to Kobe. Wafer will spell Kobe, and be there, in case Kobe goes down, with injuries.

We want someone that specializes in ballhandling, at the 1.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 18, 2005 10:46 pm    Post subject:

It's too fast for Wafer!
We need more time to keep watching him.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 18, 2005 10:49 pm    Post subject:

he can suck and know the triangle and he'll start
he can be better than kobe and not know the triangle and will not start

thats the way phil is
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 18, 2005 10:54 pm    Post subject:

phil, start a rookie? ill believe it when i see it.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 18, 2005 11:24 pm    Post subject:

No. he has to sign a contract with the lakers first, and make it through camp. if he manages to make it to the team, worst case, he sits on the bench until garbage time. best case, he comes off the bench for a few minutes.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 18, 2005 11:30 pm    Post subject:

AIRZOOMKOBE2k5 wrote:
he can suck and know the triangle and he'll start
he can be better than kobe and not know the triangle and will not start

thats the way phil is


It would help if you start making conclusions based on your own observation rather than what's been said or perceived of Phil.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 19, 2005 4:08 am    Post subject:

not a terrible idea. i have said i like kob at the point anyways and with odom he can help ball handle!!! just an idea..holla
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 19, 2005 6:09 am    Post subject:

NO. Too early to start a rookie.
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