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PostPosted: Tue Jan 15, 2008 9:31 am    Post subject: Odom will step up against Phoenix

He likes playing them. He'll have a good game. We just gotta dump the ball to him in the post. Make him earn his paycheck fisher farmar whoever's controlling the game needs to send his ass to the post and crack that whip. Force him to play up to his potential. Ride his ass for 8 weeks the least he can do is give us 8 weeks then he can go back to being numero treo.

Do not let him get the ball on the perimeter. I hate seeing him 20 feet out trying to take his man off the dribble it leads to nothing but charges or horrible 3's. I'm willing to lose to phoenix playing smart I'll be pissed if we lose playing dumb.


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I'm not an Odom fan. I'd love to have him traded but it is what it is.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 15, 2008 9:32 am    Post subject:

If Odom plays poorly against Phoenix, will you impose a one-week ban upon yourself?

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 15, 2008 9:33 am    Post subject:

Will you ban yourself for a week if he doesn't step up?

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edit: (bleep) wasnt fast enuf
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 15, 2008 9:36 am    Post subject:

FernieBee wrote:
If Odom plays poorly against Phoenix, will you impose a one-week ban upon yourself?







as much as we'd all like odom to step up....
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 15, 2008 9:39 am    Post subject:

I sure hope you are right.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 15, 2008 9:39 am    Post subject:

The_Shoes is going to have a trail of Odom fans follow him out the door like lemmings.

And we know they will only go left.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 15, 2008 9:44 am    Post subject:

2Cleva wrote:
The_Shoes is going to have a trail of Odom fans follow him out the door like lemmings.

And we know they will only go left.




...post of the day...so far...
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 15, 2008 9:44 am    Post subject:

I don't know what's worse.

Watching Lamar drive to his right, Luke shoot his fadeaway "jumper," or Kwame blowing wide-open dunks then pretending to have gotten fouled by grabbing his eye.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 15, 2008 9:46 am    Post subject:

Yeah, marshmellow teams like GS and Phoenix are about the only teams we know he'll consistently play well against.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 15, 2008 9:46 am    Post subject:

FernieBee wrote:
If Odom plays poorly against Phoenix, will you impose a one-week ban upon yourself?



Iwatch4Kobe wrote:
Will you ban yourself for a week if he doesn't step up?

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edit: (bleep) wasnt fast enuf



You guys beat me to it (by a lot)
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 15, 2008 9:47 am    Post subject:

2Cleva wrote:
The_Shoes is going to have a trail of Odom fans follow him out the door like lemmings.

And we know they will only go left.




I believe that LO realizes that he is on borrowed time. Ariza hasn't played as much lately - I believe PJ knows about what he can get out of Ariza both now and in the future - although clearly we are good with him starting at the 3. He seems to find his niche in the offense much better than LO does at the 3.

If LO can't get his act together, he may be gone this Summer. No one can say, well he has problems because he lost his son, etc. And no one can fault our FO for shipping him out for a legit PF now that Bynum clearly is our #2 option.

LO is a phenominal talent that just doesn't maximize his abilities next to the best player in the game. Sad actually.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 15, 2008 9:48 am    Post subject:

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 15, 2008 9:49 am    Post subject:

Not if he continues to hang around the perimeter. He's completely ineffectvie from out there. He or the Lakers seem to have abandoned his post game.

He's no Bynum, but he's a lot better than Kwame in the paint especially against a small PF like Marion.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 15, 2008 9:50 am    Post subject:

FernieBee wrote:
2Cleva wrote:
The_Shoes is going to have a trail of Odom fans follow him out the door like lemmings.

And we know they will only go left.




...post of the day...so far...


agreed.

lol 2C
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 15, 2008 9:55 am    Post subject:

2Cleva wrote:
The_Shoes is going to have a trail of Odom fans follow him out the door like lemmings.

And we know they will only go left.

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 15, 2008 9:55 am    Post subject:

Texas_Pete wrote:

I believe that LO realizes that he is on borrowed time. Ariza hasn't played as much lately - I believe PJ knows about what he can get out of Ariza both now and in the future - although clearly we are good with him starting at the 3. He seems to find his niche in the offense much better than LO does at the 3 .



Odom plays the 4, not the 3, so Ariza shouldn't have any effect on him. Odom has been the subject of trade rumors for years, so I doubt he's anymore worried now than he's ever been.

As always, what happens with Odom is less about our desire to replace him, than being able to find a replacement.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 15, 2008 10:09 am    Post subject:

activeverb wrote:
Texas_Pete wrote:

I believe that LO realizes that he is on borrowed time. Ariza hasn't played as much lately - I believe PJ knows about what he can get out of Ariza both now and in the future - although clearly we are good with him starting at the 3. He seems to find his niche in the offense much better than LO does at the 3 .



Odom plays the 4, not the 3, so Ariza shouldn't have any effect on him. Odom has been the subject of trade rumors for years, so I doubt he's anymore worried now than he's ever been.

As always, what happens with Odom is less about our desire to replace him, than being able to find a replacement.


My bad. Just with him not going to his strengths in the paint, I keep thinking of him as a 3 since he routinely hangs around the perimeter. He still lays balls up instead of dunking - playing with finesse - that's why people like KG be swatting him when is in the lane.

Fact remains, he is rebounding well, but his defense is lacking terribly right now. He's not boxing out and he is 6'10" - so he should be swatting at least 1.5 per game.

He just doesn't fit a structured offense like the triangle. He needs open court style of play to be effective. We need him to play good half court basketball and he is failing to deliver so far.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 15, 2008 10:15 am    Post subject:

The_SHOES is that you?

I thought the one week ban was for you entirely, not just for that screenname. Now we find out you have TWO screennames (at least) here at LG?
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 15, 2008 10:32 am    Post subject:

doubtful. Kobe gets double, triple teamed, passes it to Odom with the shot clock down to less than 5 seconds, and Odom(standing behind the 3pt line) still passes the freakin ball. Thas why u see Kobe taking 40+ shots. There is no second option
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 15, 2008 11:20 am    Post subject:

Hey guys -- it's quite possible that he'll step up against Phoenix!

He does step up once every six games or so.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 15, 2008 11:33 am    Post subject:

i'll go out on a limb and say odom gets 22pts/15rbs/4ast/1stl/1blk against the suns on thursday
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 15, 2008 11:34 am    Post subject:

If he can get that stat line, I will be gone for a day.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 15, 2008 11:40 am    Post subject:

Odom and Kwame are so sad, I don't even react to their suck play anymore. I use to get pissed, now its like I'm numb, done showing any emotion or exerting any energy getting angry anymore. Just accepted these guys are inconsistant and lousy most of the time and that's what I expect from them. Lakers are in trouble without Bynum.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 15, 2008 11:43 am    Post subject:

fool me once... shame on you...

fool me a million times.... shame on me....

no, odom will not step up. he can't "step up" because he becomes useless when he thinks about basketball. he has to instinctually raise his game or he will play badly. whenever he is forced into stepping up he has a terrible game like yesterday. you could see he was THINKING about stepping up the whole time.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 15, 2008 11:44 am    Post subject:

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If he can get that stat line, I will be gone for a day.


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