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PostPosted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 11:46 am    Post subject: Life After People

This was a great show on the History Channel. It showed you what would probably happen if all of a sudden, there were no more people on the earth.

In about 10,000 years, almost all evidence we were ever here would completely disappear.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 11:49 am    Post subject:

Was cool seeing the skyscrapers transformed into jungles, populated with the domesticated cat.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 11:52 am    Post subject:

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Was cool seeing the skyscrapers transformed into jungles, populated with the domesticated cat.


Yeah. And interesting to know that the ancient Egyptians were able to show us evidence about their existence but nothing today would last as long. Even the Great Wall of China would be around longer than stuff we're building today.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 11:55 am    Post subject:

Damn... I might have to DVR the replay of the show...
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 12:00 pm    Post subject:

Damn, heard this was coming out and missed it. Will have to check to see if it's playing again sometime soon.

For anyone who liked it, it sounds like a book I read recently called The World Without Us.

Really fascinating stuff.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 12:14 pm    Post subject:

The is a small side of me that wants a "reboot" of the system called Earth to get back the nature that has been lost in the years of human existence.

Even if we were giving a clean slate though, humans are just too predatory in terms of their surroundings and the same mess we're in now would happen again.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 12:23 pm    Post subject:

Just scheduled to record the next showing:

Life After People
5:00 PM (EST), 2 hrs
Sat 02/02/2008
HISTORY 49 (COMCAST, NJ)

Using computer imagery and information from experts, the state of the Earth if humans no longer filled the planet is examined; as the human-made sites and intellectual items disappear, animals reclaim the land; past deserted cities are explored.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 2:51 pm    Post subject:

Watching it (it was a great doc), I kept thinking that the best thing would probably be for us to just disappear. It shows how horrible we treat our home when you see how much better off it would be without us...
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 3:51 pm    Post subject:

Socks wrote:
Damn, heard this was coming out and missed it. Will have to check to see if it's playing again sometime soon.

For anyone who liked it, it sounds like a book I read recently called [url=http://www.<a href="http://www.amazon.com/b?%5Fencoding=UTF8&node=1000&tag=lakersground-20">Amazon</a>.com/World-Without-Us-Alan-Weisman/dp/0312347294/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1201636662&sr=8-1]The World Without Us[/url].

Really fascinating stuff.


I kind of got pissed off at the show because they didn't mention this book or the author at all. Seemed to me they ripped him off blatantly.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 3:55 pm    Post subject:

^Is the guy not affiliated with the show in some capacity? That was my assumption but I don't know.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 3:57 pm    Post subject:

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^Is the guy not affiliated with the show in some capacity? That was my assumption but I don't know.


didn't see him interviewed. maybe I missed that though. I didn't even see him credited on the credits.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 4:01 pm    Post subject:

^^^ I wondered the same thing and some very light poking around online on my part did not yield any sort of connection between the history channel show and the book or author.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 4:04 pm    Post subject:

Most people interviewed we're scientist/biologists or people associated with places like the Hoover Dam or the Getty Museum.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 4:06 pm    Post subject:

I am not sure what I was expecting, but I found it a little dull.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 4:24 pm    Post subject:

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 4:24 pm    Post subject:

Wow, that must be one powerfull show in order to make us question the value of our own existence. If one is religous, then we are here for a higher purpose. If one is not religous, then Man is the reigning Champion of the Evolutionary War, and the closest thing to perfection that Mother Nature can muster. Every species exploits it's environment to better their own situation. The difference is that Man is intelligent enough to see beyond the primal urges, in favor of higher ones. The fact that humans would contemplate laying down their own lives in favor of saving the planet is evidence of the lengths we will all go in order to do the right thing for Mother Earth. I don't think it will come to that, but it is reassuring, nonetheless.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 4:32 pm    Post subject:

I just want an earth where I can legally and forcefully eat people
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 5:08 pm    Post subject:

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I just want an earth where I can legally and forcefully eat people


mike tyson?
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 5:35 pm    Post subject:

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hi_ma wrote:
I just want an earth where I can legally and forcefully eat people


mike tyson?

nah. Mike said it in jest
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 30, 2008 10:53 am    Post subject:

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Wow, that must be one powerfull show in order to make us question the value of our own existence. If one is religous, then we are here for a higher purpose. If one is not religous, then Man is the reigning Champion of the Evolutionary War, and the closest thing to perfection that Mother Nature can muster. Every species exploits it's environment to better their own situation. The difference is that Man is intelligent enough to see beyond the primal urges, in favor of higher ones. The fact that humans would contemplate laying down their own lives in favor of saving the planet is evidence of the lengths we will all go in order to do the right thing for Mother Earth. I don't think it will come to that, but it is reassuring, nonetheless.


I agree with you in theory but I think you would be hard pressed to find more then a handful of people who would actually lay down there life to make the planet a better place.

If the Universe gave an ultamatum one morning and said the human race can continue to exist and the planet will die in 50 years along with all the people, or all the people can die now and the planet earth will thrive like never before for 30 billion years, I think the majority of people in the world would choose the first option.

Were not that evolved...
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 30, 2008 11:31 am    Post subject:

SPOILER

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They also made a big point at the end that while there might be thriving animal life, there won't necessarily be creatures that evolve into sentient beings. Chimps and other creatures will use tools and have other rituals that are human-like but the leap into a being that can ponder about the universe and its existence is a big one.
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hi_ma wrote:
Ares24 wrote:
hi_ma wrote:
I just want an earth where I can legally and forcefully eat people


mike tyson?

nah. Mike said it in jest


Did you know that one theory of how Alzheimer's and dementia develop is that humans are actually eating humans because there is so much human waste in the fertilizer we use for grazing land. It's sort of like how mad cow happens when cows eat other cows.
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mike_dee23 wrote:
hi_ma wrote:
Ares24 wrote:
hi_ma wrote:
I just want an earth where I can legally and forcefully eat people


mike tyson?

nah. Mike said it in jest


Did you know that one theory of how Alzheimer's and dementia develop is that humans are actually eating humans because there is so much human waste in the fertilizer we use for grazing land. It's sort of like how mad cow happens when cows eat other cows.

Alzheimer's and dementia are underated first of all. Free range human. That would solve it.
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Booby wrote:
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Wow, that must be one powerfull show in order to make us question the value of our own existence. If one is religous, then we are here for a higher purpose. If one is not religous, then Man is the reigning Champion of the Evolutionary War, and the closest thing to perfection that Mother Nature can muster. Every species exploits it's environment to better their own situation. The difference is that Man is intelligent enough to see beyond the primal urges, in favor of higher ones. The fact that humans would contemplate laying down their own lives in favor of saving the planet is evidence of the lengths we will all go in order to do the right thing for Mother Earth. I don't think it will come to that, but it is reassuring, nonetheless.


I agree with you in theory but I think you would be hard pressed to find more then a handful of people who would actually lay down there life to make the planet a better place.

If the Universe gave an ultamatum one morning and said the human race can continue to exist and the planet will die in 50 years along with all the people, or all the people can die now and the planet earth will thrive like never before for 30 billion years, I think the majority of people in the world would choose the first option.

Were not that evolved...

I don't think anyone will kill themselves. My point is that what ACTUALLY needs to be done to "save the planet" is alot less severe than human extinction. It is not that bad. Really. I mean, recycle, conserve, drive less, have higher emmision standards, plant some trees . . . pretty easy, no? And here in Cali, we already have someof the highest standards in the world. If the rest of the planet would catch up to our example, most problems would be resolved instantly. I am comforted by the resolve that people have to fix the perceived problem, even though I think the effects are greatly exagerrated and sensationalized.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 30, 2008 1:32 pm    Post subject:

Booby wrote:
JerryMagicKobe wrote:
Wow, that must be one powerfull show in order to make us question the value of our own existence. If one is religous, then we are here for a higher purpose. If one is not religous, then Man is the reigning Champion of the Evolutionary War, and the closest thing to perfection that Mother Nature can muster. Every species exploits it's environment to better their own situation. The difference is that Man is intelligent enough to see beyond the primal urges, in favor of higher ones. The fact that humans would contemplate laying down their own lives in favor of saving the planet is evidence of the lengths we will all go in order to do the right thing for Mother Earth. I don't think it will come to that, but it is reassuring, nonetheless.


I agree with you in theory but I think you would be hard pressed to find more then a handful of people who would actually lay down there life to make the planet a better place.

If the Universe gave an ultamatum one morning and said the human race can continue to exist and the planet will die in 50 years along with all the people, or all the people can die now and the planet earth will thrive like never before for 30 billion years, I think the majority of people in the world would choose the first option.

Were not that evolved...


Lets see, die now or die later....... I'll take die later. The earth is of little concern to me after I'm DEAD.
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