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Your impression on Sun Yue |
Definitely A good signing |
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Will have to see more of him before giving a final judgment |
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Mitch is a genius indeed... |
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He will definitely need to improve to be a Laker |
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Am not sold on him yet |
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moonriver24 Franchise Player
Joined: 21 Oct 2007 Posts: 15265
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Posted: Sun Aug 10, 2008 8:13 am Post subject: Your impression on Sun Yue |
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.... after watching him against the Lakers... errrr... US team, what is your impression?
Is he an NBA material?
Is he a defensive material?
If so, is Mitch genius or what to sign him prior to this game? _________________ Kobe's Top 5 Dunks, 81 points, MJ last gm @Staples |
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GonzagaAlum Star Player
Joined: 09 Dec 2005 Posts: 3021
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Posted: Sun Aug 10, 2008 8:22 am Post subject: |
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his game at best in my mind projects as a luke walton with slightly better D but worse offensively. I think he is a marketing gimic and a guy who frankly will not have a place within the triangle. _________________ How can I get a copy of a Laker game played on Sunday, March 11, 2001 Sonics/Lakers? If you know PM me please
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D Nice Star Player
Joined: 15 Aug 2006 Posts: 1933
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Posted: Sun Aug 10, 2008 8:27 am Post subject: |
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Love his defense. When he's set, he's not a bad catch+shoot player from the wings. I'd like to see him be more aggressive, but that could be more a fault of the system/coaching than his actual basketball mindset or approach. Definitely a point guard IMO, with the potential to be one of the better help players from that position. Handles and passing ability are for real, but again he didn't have enough opportunities to show them off. He's going to make the team though.
However, after putting the ball on the floor his shot takes a MAJOR tailspin, and he often doesn't penetrate as far as he can, settling for deference at a time when there's no need. That can be fixed/adapted to with experience and conditioning though, not to many worries there.
I like him. Moreso than Farmar. He gives effort on the defensive end, consistently. And with Fisher here, he'll have a great shooting lefty to help him with the mechanics of his stroke. _________________ 1949, 1950, 1952, 1953, 1954, 1972, 1980, 1982, 1985, 1987, 1988, 2000, 2001, 2002, 2009, 2010 |
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moonriver24 Franchise Player
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Posted: Sun Aug 10, 2008 8:32 am Post subject: |
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Dont forget though: he was playing against a team of de-facto all-stars. And against one of the best defenders on the team who will be his teammate if everything goes smoothly. For those who missed the game, dont forget the delayed broadcast later. _________________ Kobe's Top 5 Dunks, 81 points, MJ last gm @Staples
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hellsling Star Player
Joined: 27 Nov 2007 Posts: 1833
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Posted: Sun Aug 10, 2008 8:35 am Post subject: |
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I still think he's a borderline nba prospect, but what I liked the most about him is his hustle. Throughout the whole game he was the only chinese player hustling on transition trying to stop the fast break points and he also showed a willingness to sacrifice his body for the team considering how only a few selective players are willing to contest shots from freight trains like Lebron, Kobe, and Bosh. Overall a solid pick for a second round pick.
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raffi LG Contributor
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Posted: Sun Aug 10, 2008 8:38 am Post subject: |
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He looked good, but I think he still needs to improve quite a bit.
We'll see how he progresses. |
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LVLAKERFAN Star Player
Joined: 24 Jun 2005 Posts: 5347 Location: United States
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Posted: Sun Aug 10, 2008 8:43 am Post subject: |
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As of right now, I can say he's one of the best 3rd string PG's in the league.
He's 22 Years Old turning 23 in November.
He Bring some versatility because he can pretty puch play the 1, 2 or 3 position for us.
If you put AK47, Magic Johnson and a 6'9 bum in a tube and shook it up, you'd probably get Yue.
He has Magic's and AK47 heights. He handles the ball very well and tries to play good defense using his length. Only problem is he's not at the level their at, hence the poor mans combo version of the two.
Nice Yue Facts:
A Year Ago at Predraft Camp in Orlando, it showed Yue has
: 5.1% Body Fat
: 8'9 Standing Reach
:6'9 Wing Span
:a time of 10.68 seconds (ranking in the top 3 times at the camp) in lane agility
: 34" Vertical
That was a year ago, so hopefully they've improved.
Two Years Ago his Stats in the ABA looked like
13.5 PPG (46 FG%)
10.5 APG
6.0 RPG
2.0 BPG
1.9 SPG
If he has really been working on his game we got a good 11th Man. _________________ SCHROEDER/CARUSO/COOK
MATTHEWS/KCP/THT
LEBRON/KUZMA/BABYGIANIS
AD/MORRIS/DUDLEY
GASOL/HARRELL/TINKLE
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Magics80sLakersGOAT Star Player
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Posted: Sun Aug 10, 2008 9:00 am Post subject: |
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He's a scrub, we need to save our third PG position for a Vet, like Tyrone Lue or someone like that. This guys just not really good at anything. _________________ Discoflux wrote:
If all we need is 10/10 at C, we don't even need bynum cos Mihm can pull that down.
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Freakout Franchise Player
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Posted: Sun Aug 10, 2008 9:01 am Post subject: |
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Magics80sLakersGOAT wrote: | He's a scrub, we need to save our third PG position for a Vet, like Tyrone Lue or someone like that. This guys just not really good at anything. |
Lue has been a Buck for about 3 weeks now. |
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Hector the Pup Retired Number
Joined: 25 Jul 2002 Posts: 35946 Location: L.A.
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Posted: Sun Aug 10, 2008 9:04 am Post subject: |
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Freakout wrote: | Magics80sLakersGOAT wrote: | He's a scrub, we need to save our third PG position for a Vet, like Tyrone Lue or someone like that. This guys just not really good at anything. |
Lue has been a Buck for about 3 weeks now. |
Well then I guess we need to save that position for another couple of years. |
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Laker_Leo Star Player
Joined: 26 Sep 2005 Posts: 6114 Location: Down the Hill from the Griffith Observatory
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Posted: Sun Aug 10, 2008 9:04 am Post subject: |
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Well, I was like Whoa when he blocked D Howard's shot attempt. He definitely needs to work on his mid-range jumper. His 3 ball looked pretty good. _________________ And always remember my brother, one fish, two fish, red fish, blue fish, knick knack, paddy whack, give a dog a bone, two thousand, zero, zero, party, oops out of time. My bacon smellin' fine. |
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kaoss128 Franchise Player
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Posted: Sun Aug 10, 2008 9:05 am Post subject: |
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moonriver24 wrote: | Dont forget though: he was playing against a team of de-facto all-stars. And against one of the best defenders on the team who will be his teammate if everything goes smoothly. For those who missed the game, dont forget the delayed broadcast later. |
I missed it and would love to see it. Any idea what time it will be on? |
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moonriver24 Franchise Player
Joined: 21 Oct 2007 Posts: 15265
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Posted: Sun Aug 10, 2008 9:08 am Post subject: |
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LVLAKERFAN wrote: | If you put AK47, Magic Johnson and a 6'9 bum in a tube and shook it up, you'd probably get Yue. |
The good thing is the bum is in one sentence with AK47 and Magic Johnson.
Quote: | Two Years Ago his Stats in the ABA looked like
2.0 BPG |
So, the block on Howard really was not a coincidental one. _________________ Kobe's Top 5 Dunks, 81 points, MJ last gm @Staples |
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NOODLESTYLE Star Player
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Posted: Sun Aug 10, 2008 9:10 am Post subject: |
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I voted that I wanted to see him play more (even when I've been seeing him play since the World Championships) meaning I think he needs to play some NBA competition as well in the D-League. I don't think playing in the ABA helped his game much.
Well if any of you guys want to see Sun Yue's block on D-Howard, here you go,
http://bbs.hoopchina.com/attachment/Mon_0808/81_23197_14e95a763d50c09.gif
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moonriver24 Franchise Player
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Posted: Sun Aug 10, 2008 9:11 am Post subject: |
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kaoss128 wrote: | moonriver24 wrote: | Dont forget though: he was playing against a team of de-facto all-stars. And against one of the best defenders on the team who will be his teammate if everything goes smoothly. For those who missed the game, dont forget the delayed broadcast later. |
I missed it and would love to see it. Any idea what time it will be on? |
I think it's at 10:15 Pacific. _________________ Kobe's Top 5 Dunks, 81 points, MJ last gm @Staples |
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Texas_Pete Franchise Player
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Posted: Sun Aug 10, 2008 9:21 am Post subject: |
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Well, I like his effort. That block on D12 was amazing. As far as guards are concerned, only Kobe or Sasha have the balls to even attempt to do the same thing. I hope he has a good work ethic to go with his skills. He has talent, but it is early and the jury is still out. |
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crimsonsentinel Starting Rotation
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Posted: Sun Aug 10, 2008 11:43 am Post subject: |
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He definitely needs more experience and coaching, but his raw talent is there. Good dribbling, decent shot. His length allows him to be a good defender, but he plays for steals/blocks too much which leaves his man open. A year in the D league would be good for him. |
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Laker7 Star Player
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Posted: Sun Aug 10, 2008 11:49 am Post subject: |
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For a second round pick, not too bad at all. _________________ Darvin Ham is an idiot! |
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LakerSanity Moderator
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Posted: Sun Aug 10, 2008 11:50 am Post subject: |
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Very Tayshaun Prince like... probably doesn't have the same scoring repetoire, but he has great handles and better court vision, so more of a PG. Although his jumper is probably less consistent as well, he looks to have better shooting mechanics than Prince and IMO could become a good 3pt shooter.
Defensively, given his athleticism and length, he could turn into a Prince-like defender if he has the determination and the hoop IQ (remains to be seen).
He definitely looks more comfortable and steady than he did this time last year. I think with better coaching, a good weight training program, and a defined role, he could really make something of himself. I see potential in the kid... I think he has a lot of upside that has yet to be tapped. _________________ LakersGround's Terms of Service
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Bol Star Player
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Posted: Sun Aug 10, 2008 11:55 am Post subject: |
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I like him. I liked what I saw of him in the summer league last year, and from what I saw today, it looks like he's improved his shot and his control since then. Considering where he was drafted, if he can play at all in the NBA, it was a decent pick. |
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king255 Star Player
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Posted: Sun Aug 10, 2008 11:58 am Post subject: |
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Has enough tools to be a starter. Maybe borderline All-Star if he worked hard enough. He definitely does not need to spend time in the D-League. We've wasted his development enough. The more years you waste, the less his potential becomes, as every year that you get older, your skills/mental game have to reach a certain level to compensate.
At this point, it doesn't appear that his skills will develop in time for them to meet with his physical prime, which I believe is from 22-25. His mental game will improve by 28, but that is already slightly past his physical prime. So in the end, we will probably never see what his best truly is. If we do, it probably will be only for a year or two. |
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Freakout Franchise Player
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Posted: Sun Aug 10, 2008 12:05 pm Post subject: |
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LakerSanity wrote: | Very Tayshaun Prince like... probably doesn't have the same scoring repetoire, but he has great handles and better court vision, so more of a PG. Although his jumper is probably less consistent as well, he looks to have better shooting mechanics than Prince and IMO could become a good 3pt shooter.
Defensively, given his athleticism and length, he could turn into a Prince-like defender if he has the determination and the hoop IQ (remains to be seen).
He definitely looks more comfortable and steady than he did this time last year. I think with better coaching, a good weight training program, and a defined role, he could really make something of himself. I see potential in the kid... I think he has a lot of upside that has yet to be tapped. |
That is who he reminds me of but a shorter armed, less polished version. |
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24KaratGold Franchise Player
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Posted: Sun Aug 10, 2008 12:10 pm Post subject: |
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He showed that he is at least a solid garbage-time NBA player. He has lots of potential, so he could get a lot better. _________________ Double rings > Double rainbow |
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LakerSanity Moderator
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Posted: Sun Aug 10, 2008 12:13 pm Post subject: |
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At the very least, he gets you more excited than Karl, Mitchell, or Crawford. _________________ LakersGround's Terms of Service
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freshbird Sixth Man
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Posted: Sun Aug 10, 2008 12:16 pm Post subject: |
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Was impressed with his game against the US out of all teams. It's good for him that's he leaving the ABA/CBA. His game will improve more with practicing with the Lakers. |
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