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| Brandon98 wrote: | Grow up Shaq. Howard has more desire on the glass at age 23 than you ever did.
Way to kick the guy when he's down. |
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| Posted: Fri Jun 12, 2009 10:33 am Post subject: |
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| Doesn't anyone think it's ironic that the master of the bricked free throw has the nerve to tweek Howard after his brick fest? Weak. |
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This is the same guy who dunked on some fools in a training camp game and proceeded to YELL AT DR. BUSS "Pay me my money mother (bleep)... pay me my money"
Shaq is high cash and low class
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Come on now guys, I know everyone here isn't too fond of Shaq but when it comes to picking sides between Shaq and Howard, we've gotta go with Shaq here. I don't really like Howards attitude these finals, coupled with his ability to seemingly get EVERY call from the refs. I honestly just don't think as much as I did of him before these finals. Gotta side with Shaq on this one.
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| Amazing wrote: | | Come on now guys, I know everyone here isn't too fond of Shaq but when it comes to picking sides between Shaq and Howard, we've gotta go with Shaq here. I don't really like Howards attitude these finals, coupled with his ability to seemingly get EVERY call from the refs. I honestly just don't think as much as I did of him before these finals. Gotta side with Shaq on this one. |
Don't reward behavior like that from anyone .. no matter who it is .. call them out on it and you help them and your life..
Shaq is like that because in his whole life... barely anyone was brave enough to look him in the eye and tell him he is a big (bleep) loudmouth coward with a seriously childish ego problem
Only MAN who ever spoke out in frank terms about Shaq is still on this team
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| Quote: | Updated: October 28, 2003, 4:04 PM ET
Kobe critical of Shaq's leadership
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The transcript of Kobe Bryant's interview with ESPN's Jim Gray:
GRAY: What was your reaction to Shaq saying the Lakers are his team, and everybody knows it?
BRYANT: It doesn't matter whose team it is. Nobody cares. I don't, Karl [Malone] doesn't, Gary [Payton] doesn't, and our teammates and the fans don't either. There's more to life than whose team this is. But this is his team, so it's time for him to act like it. That means no more coming into camp fat and out of shape, when your team is relying on your leadership on and off the court. It also means no more blaming others for our team's failure, or blaming staff members for not overdramatizing your injuries so that you avoid blame for your lack of conditioning. Also, "my team" doesn't mean only when we win; it means carrying the burden of defeat just as gracefully as you carry a championship trophy.
GRAY: Do you consider Shaq to be a leader?
BRYANT: Leaders don't beg for a contract extension and negotiate some 30 million [dollars] plus per year deal in the media when we have two future Hall of Famers playing here pretty much for free. A leader would not demand the ball every time down the floor when you have the three of us [Malone, Payton, Bryant] playing beside you, not to mention the teammates you have gone to war with for years -- and, by the way, then threaten not to play defense and rebound if you don't get the ball every time down the floor.
GRAY: Shaq says that you have not been a team player. Is he right?
BRYANT: That's ridiculous. I have been successfully sacrificing my game for years for Shaq. That's what Phil [Jackson] wanted me to do, so I did it. Last year Phil told me Shaq was not in physical condition to carry the trust of our offense, so he asked me to do it. But then he saw Shaq was getting upset that the team wasn't running through him, so Phil asked me to pull back and I did. This year is no different; my role is whatever Phil wants it to be. Period.
GRAY: Through out the preseason, your leg and conditioning has been lagging. Are you in the proper shape to start the season?
BRYANT: My knee is not strong enough to play yet. I know it. When it is I will play.
GRAY: Does that mean you will miss the opener [Tuesday] night and other games?
BRYANT: I probably won't play tomorrow night or until I'm ready. But I don't need Shaq's advice on how to play hurt. I've played with IVs before, during and after games. I've played with a broken hand, a sprained ankle, a torn shoulder, a fractured tooth, a severed lip, and a knee the size of a softball. I don't miss 15 games because of a toe injury that everybody knows wasn't that serious in the first place.
GRAY: Kobe, Shaq said if you didn't like what he had to say you can opt out and leave next season. Will you leave the Lakers?
BRYANT: I won't make that decision until the end of the season. I told Shaq last year that I was planning on opting out. He knew before anyone. I told him out of respect for what we have been through together. I thought he should be the first to know. The fact that he acts like this is such a big shock is a mystery to me. If leaving the Lakers at the end of the season is what I decide, a major reason for that will be Shaq's childlike selfishness and jealousy.
GRAY: Do you feel Shaq has been supportive in regards to your legal situation?
BRYANT: He is not my quote unquote "big brother." A big brother would have called to lend his support this summer. I heard absolutely nothing from him. I spoke to Devean [George], Rick [Fox], Mitch [Kupchak], Phil, and our owner Jerry Buss. And Shaq's own Uncle Jerome called and left three messages. Other teammates like Derek [Fisher], Mark [Madsen], and [Stanislav Medvedenko] left messages as well. Opponents called like [Chris] Webber, [Mike] Bibby, and many others. So did a lot of coaches. Michael Jordan, who didn't have my home phone, tracked it down to lend his support. So did Tiger Woods. But yet from my so-called big brother, I heard nothing.
GRAY: Why not resolve this behind closed doors? Why is this so public?
BRYANT: I asked Phil on Sunday [yesterday] to say something to calm this situation down before it boiled over. But he backed away, so now here we are. I have been a bigger person every time something happened with Shaq, and I don't expect this to be any different. But somebody in this organization had to speak up, because his unprofessionalism hurt us last year, and I don't want it to hurt us this year. |
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| ChefLinda wrote: | | Doesn't anyone think it's ironic that the master of the bricked free throw has the nerve to tweek Howard after his brick fest? Weak. |
Even when I think Shaq can't get any more pathetic in my eyes he finds a way to get lower. |
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[quote="Basketball Fan"]How little of a person is Shaq that he's threatened by Howard?
I get him hating Kobe but what did Howard ever do to him?[/quote]
that's just it... perhaps Dwight DID do something privately; who knows. We only see what the media wants us to see, and if I didn't know any better, I'd think DH was a "superstar" based on the way the NBA's been promoting him and the ref's treatment of him. |
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| When was the last time Shaq had 9 blocks? |
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Trey
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^^ LIKE SHAQ FABRICATING THE STORY ABOUT DROB NOT GIVING HIM HIS AUTOGRAPH when he asked for it before entering the NBA??????????
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| And some of the people here want this prick back? The guy is a cancer EVERYWhere he ends up. Just a matter of time before he implodes the Suns. |
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| Perfect Makes Practice wrote: | | When was the last time Shaq had 9 blocks? |
when they came in chocolate flavor
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| Posted: Fri Jun 12, 2009 10:50 am Post subject: Fake Twit |
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You guys should know better than to believe MediaTakeOut.com.
I follow The Real Shaq and this twit is fake.
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Vishnu
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| Trey wrote: | | Quote: | GRAY: Do you feel Shaq has been supportive in regards to your legal situation?
BRYANT: He is not my quote unquote "big brother." A big brother would have called to lend his support this summer. I heard absolutely nothing from him. I spoke to Devean [George], Rick [Fox], Mitch [Kupchak], Phil, and our owner Jerry Buss. And Shaq's own Uncle Jerome called and left three messages. Other teammates like Derek [Fisher], Mark [Madsen], and [Stanislav Medvedenko] left messages as well. Opponents called like [Chris] Webber, [Mike] Bibby, and many others. So did a lot of coaches. Michael Jordan, who didn't have my home phone, tracked it down to lend his support. So did Tiger Woods. But yet from my so-called big brother, I heard nothing. |
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| nutella wrote: | | it's a fake, the @dwighthoward portion of it would've been in blue, plus... iirc, you still can't yet delete a post once you've sent it out |
I concur. This isn't a true twitter post from shaq. |
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LuciusAllen
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| Posted: Fri Jun 12, 2009 10:52 am Post subject: |
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| I dunno, Howard seemed to really channel the essence of Shaq last night when he was shooting those free throws. |
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| Trey wrote: | | Amazing wrote: | | Come on now guys, I know everyone here isn't too fond of Shaq but when it comes to picking sides between Shaq and Howard, we've gotta go with Shaq here. I don't really like Howards attitude these finals, coupled with his ability to seemingly get EVERY call from the refs. I honestly just don't think as much as I did of him before these finals. Gotta side with Shaq on this one. |
Don't reward behavior like that from anyone .. no matter who it is .. call them out on it and you help them and your life..
Shaq is like that because in his whole life... barely anyone was brave enough to look him in the eye and tell him he is a big (bleep) loudmouth coward with a seriously childish ego problem
Only MAN who ever spoke out in frank terms about Shaq is still on this team
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=1648431
| Quote: | Updated: October 28, 2003, 4:04 PM ET
Kobe critical of Shaq's leadership
Email Print Share
ESPN.com news services
The transcript of Kobe Bryant's interview with ESPN's Jim Gray:
GRAY: What was your reaction to Shaq saying the Lakers are his team, and everybody knows it?
BRYANT: It doesn't matter whose team it is. Nobody cares. I don't, Karl [Malone] doesn't, Gary [Payton] doesn't, and our teammates and the fans don't either. There's more to life than whose team this is. But this is his team, so it's time for him to act like it. That means no more coming into camp fat and out of shape, when your team is relying on your leadership on and off the court. It also means no more blaming others for our team's failure, or blaming staff members for not overdramatizing your injuries so that you avoid blame for your lack of conditioning. Also, "my team" doesn't mean only when we win; it means carrying the burden of defeat just as gracefully as you carry a championship trophy.
GRAY: Do you consider Shaq to be a leader?
BRYANT: Leaders don't beg for a contract extension and negotiate some 30 million [dollars] plus per year deal in the media when we have two future Hall of Famers playing here pretty much for free. A leader would not demand the ball every time down the floor when you have the three of us [Malone, Payton, Bryant] playing beside you, not to mention the teammates you have gone to war with for years -- and, by the way, then threaten not to play defense and rebound if you don't get the ball every time down the floor.
GRAY: Shaq says that you have not been a team player. Is he right?
BRYANT: That's ridiculous. I have been successfully sacrificing my game for years for Shaq. That's what Phil [Jackson] wanted me to do, so I did it. Last year Phil told me Shaq was not in physical condition to carry the trust of our offense, so he asked me to do it. But then he saw Shaq was getting upset that the team wasn't running through him, so Phil asked me to pull back and I did. This year is no different; my role is whatever Phil wants it to be. Period.
GRAY: Through out the preseason, your leg and conditioning has been lagging. Are you in the proper shape to start the season?
BRYANT: My knee is not strong enough to play yet. I know it. When it is I will play.
GRAY: Does that mean you will miss the opener [Tuesday] night and other games?
BRYANT: I probably won't play tomorrow night or until I'm ready. But I don't need Shaq's advice on how to play hurt. I've played with IVs before, during and after games. I've played with a broken hand, a sprained ankle, a torn shoulder, a fractured tooth, a severed lip, and a knee the size of a softball. I don't miss 15 games because of a toe injury that everybody knows wasn't that serious in the first place.
GRAY: Kobe, Shaq said if you didn't like what he had to say you can opt out and leave next season. Will you leave the Lakers?
BRYANT: I won't make that decision until the end of the season. I told Shaq last year that I was planning on opting out. He knew before anyone. I told him out of respect for what we have been through together. I thought he should be the first to know. The fact that he acts like this is such a big shock is a mystery to me. If leaving the Lakers at the end of the season is what I decide, a major reason for that will be Shaq's childlike selfishness and jealousy.
GRAY: Do you feel Shaq has been supportive in regards to your legal situation?
BRYANT: He is not my quote unquote "big brother." A big brother would have called to lend his support this summer. I heard absolutely nothing from him. I spoke to Devean [George], Rick [Fox], Mitch [Kupchak], Phil, and our owner Jerry Buss. And Shaq's own Uncle Jerome called and left three messages. Other teammates like Derek [Fisher], Mark [Madsen], and [Stanislav Medvedenko] left messages as well. Opponents called like [Chris] Webber, [Mike] Bibby, and many others. So did a lot of coaches. Michael Jordan, who didn't have my home phone, tracked it down to lend his support. So did Tiger Woods. But yet from my so-called big brother, I heard nothing.
GRAY: Why not resolve this behind closed doors? Why is this so public?
BRYANT: I asked Phil on Sunday [yesterday] to say something to calm this situation down before it boiled over. But he backed away, so now here we are. I have been a bigger person every time something happened with Shaq, and I don't expect this to be any different. But somebody in this organization had to speak up, because his unprofessionalism hurt us last year, and I don't want it to hurt us this year. |
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Believe me, I'll be the first person to say Fukc Shaq, to me is a complete POS who flip flops on his stances more than anyone. But quite frankly, Dwight Howard could die tommorow morning and it wouldn't mean a thing to me. Fukc Dwight Howard.
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Vishnu
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This tweet is fake
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| It would be a correct statement but it is FAKE. Check his twitter that comment is nowhere to be found. |
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| I find it funny that on Dwight's twitter page he said "come on guys, full 48 minutes of effort"... he didn't count on the extra 5 minutes... |
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| Posted: Fri Jun 12, 2009 11:04 am Post subject: |
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Not worthy of the name Superman.
Maybe we should start referring to Shaq as Bizarro from now on.
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| Megatron24 wrote: | | It would be a correct statement but it is FAKE. Check his twitter that comment is nowhere to be found. |
Yeah seems like its doctored and fake. It might be possible that Shaq removed that comment, but it seems fake it says @DwightHoward and usually when a tweet starts with @ the name is blue to link you to that twitter and in the picture @DwightHoward is just normal text. Most likely doctored.
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| Posted: Fri Jun 12, 2009 11:39 am Post subject: |
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| Trey wrote: | | Perfect Makes Practice wrote: | | When was the last time Shaq had 9 blocks? |
when they came in chocolate flavor |
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How can a guy who is incredibly talented and successful be so self-conscious?
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That's gotta be fake. Shaq's stupid, but he's not that stupid. Even with the media love he gets, they would be broadcasting a direct insult like that all over SportsCenter.
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| pokoy wrote: | | What, Dwight couldn't get swept like you did when you were with Orlando? No doubt! |
As much as Shaq deserves heat from Laker fans for the way he acted in his last few years with LA and then right after the trade, one thing we should acknowledge considering he was a huge part of 3 Laker rings.
This guy is a MUCH, MUCH, MUCH better player than Howard. Shaq is a legend, he is going to be top 10 at worst, in the GOAT debates.
Shaq is the REAL superman. Howard pales in comparison to prime Shaq.
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