Joined: 02 May 2005 Posts: 90299 Location: Formerly Known As 24
Posted: Tue Sep 08, 2009 11:09 am Post subject:
Wilt wrote:
This, IMO, is the most insane guitar solo ever.
It starts at 5:36.
Great solo.
I think given your taste you ought to check out Roy Buchanan on "Chicago Smokeshop" and "When a Guitar Plays The Blues", and Joe Bonamassa on "Blues Deluxe" (title track of the album with the same name), "Django/ Just got Paid", "Woke up Dreaming", and "Another kind of love" (All live tracks of the album "Live from Nowhere in Particular"). _________________ “We must always take sides. Neutrality helps the oppressor, never the victim. Silence encourages the tormentor, never the tormented.” ― Elie Wiesel
I tend to go for blues stuff more than rock. Blue artists, at least the good ones, seemed to have figured out the essence of a good solo: Part poetry, part sexual tension. While it's fine to let it all hang out occasionally, a la Ginsberg's "howl", a poem is differentiated from prose by what it doesn't say, the spaces between the words, left to implication and imagination. Similarly, good sexual tension results from nearing it, playing around it, but backing off at the right time, heightening the expectation, but never quite giving in.
That's a good blues solo to me. The magic is almost more in what they don't play than what they do, what is alluded to, hinted at, left "unsaid". That's why BB King is so great, despite many who downplay his pure technique. There's more soul and beauty in the spaces between his notes than in anything Satriani has ever played. Try listening to "thrill is gone", paying attention to the gaps and pauses. It's amazing.
great post. to me, a good solo is 90% soul, 10% technique. If the note was right w/ the song, I'd take a single string bend solo for about 12 measures over a solo that contains 100 notes a measure any day.
Joined: 02 May 2005 Posts: 90299 Location: Formerly Known As 24
Posted: Mon Sep 14, 2009 8:48 am Post subject:
LALdynasty! wrote:
frijolero01 wrote:
24 wrote:
I tend to go for blues stuff more than rock. Blue artists, at least the good ones, seemed to have figured out the essence of a good solo: Part poetry, part sexual tension. While it's fine to let it all hang out occasionally, a la Ginsberg's "howl", a poem is differentiated from prose by what it doesn't say, the spaces between the words, left to implication and imagination. Similarly, good sexual tension results from nearing it, playing around it, but backing off at the right time, heightening the expectation, but never quite giving in.
That's a good blues solo to me. The magic is almost more in what they don't play than what they do, what is alluded to, hinted at, left "unsaid". That's why BB King is so great, despite many who downplay his pure technique. There's more soul and beauty in the spaces between his notes than in anything Satriani has ever played. Try listening to "thrill is gone", paying attention to the gaps and pauses. It's amazing.
great post. to me, a good solo is 90% soul, 10% technique. If the note was right w/ the song, I'd take a single string bend solo for about 12 measures over a solo that contains 100 notes a measure any day.
I love BB King.
Are you a SRV fan?
What about Buddy Guy?
And Clapton of course.
You listed 3 of my favorites. _________________ “We must always take sides. Neutrality helps the oppressor, never the victim. Silence encourages the tormentor, never the tormented.” ― Elie Wiesel
Here are some that probably not many of you have ever heard:
Band: Eloy / Song: Madhouse
The song starts out slow and a mad guitar solo starts at about the 2:00 minute mark that carries thru the end of the 5:18 song, be sure to listen at 4:17 where Frank (THE GUITAR PLAYER) goes into a frenzy!
Even more insane is a song by a band most of you have surely heard of: Thin Lizzy, the song is The Rocker and this was off their third album. RIP Phil. The guitar player was named Eric Bell and he absolutely SHREADS, Jimi would have been proud of this solo!
Next up is Breadfan by Budgie, with Tony Bourge on guitar, the song has a stinging guitar line. Vocals any Rush fan will love.
Bonus Budgie song:
Lastly: Here is a song by a band everyone should have heard of and it still brings tears to my eyes, when I blast it (starting at the 2:26 mark)...
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Posted: Sat Oct 03, 2009 10:44 pm Post subject:
AngryBlacksmith wrote:
Slash - November Rain
I was hoping someone mentioned that one.
LarryCoon wrote:
Jeff Beck, "What God Wants, Part III" from "Amused to Death" by Roger Waters
I love everything Roger Waters, but didn't realize Beck was the one pulling the strings (or plucking the strings) on that one.
I am going to add "Wish You Were Here" by Pink Floyd to the list.
Does Leo Kottke's "Too Fast" count? It's not a solo in a song, but the whole song itself. Cause if it does, then I will also throw in Eddie Van Halen's "Spanish Fly." _________________ Courage doesn't always roar.
Sometimes courage is the quiet voice at the end of the day saying...'I will try again tomorrow.'
Dave didn't write lyrics that did the instrument parts justice -- a common complaint about him from nearly every critic of the time. I like this album though, the black sheep of their early catalog.
Joined: 02 May 2005 Posts: 90299 Location: Formerly Known As 24
Posted: Fri Jul 02, 2010 12:33 am Post subject:
ExPatLkrFan wrote:
Duane Allman and Dickie Betts - Whippin' Post
Frank Zappa - Black Napkins
Freddie King - Have You Ever Loved a Woman
Joe Bonamassa... please.
What do you have against Joe? _________________ “We must always take sides. Neutrality helps the oppressor, never the victim. Silence encourages the tormentor, never the tormented.” ― Elie Wiesel
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Posted: Sat Jul 03, 2010 1:12 am Post subject:
Hendrix - Machine Gun (Live at the Fillmore East)
Hendrix - All Along the Watchtower
Hendrix - Little Wing
Hendrix - Moon, Turn the Tides, Gently, Gently Way
Jimmy Page - No Quarter (Live)
Jimmy Page - The Rain Song (Live)
Jimmy Page - Tea For One
David Gilmore - Echoes
David Gilmore - Shine on You Crazy Diamond
Duane Allman and Dickie Betts - Whippin' Post
Frank Zappa - Black Napkins
Freddie King - Have You Ever Loved a Woman
Joe Bonamassa... please.
What do you have against Joe?
Sounds like he went to "Blues School" which figures since his idol Eric Clapton was one of several graduates from the John Mayall and the Bluesbreakers (others include Peter Green, Jeff Beck, and Jimmy Page). The technique is right but its not so soulful you know.
Hell I heard better right here in little old Mukdahan when David Mayfield was traveling thru and jammed with the Thai guys at the local club on a borrowed Strat copy and the electric mandolin. He is a top five mandolin player in the world (according to some) but can handle anything with strings on it. (Acoustic bass included!!!!) He's better on guitar than Joe, in my opinion of course.
I think I got rubbed the wrong way when I met Joe's road manager, who was visiting a mutual friend here and tried to tell me he is the best guitar player in the world. I watched the RAH dvd and was not so impressed. But since he's a Clapton acolyte it is not surprising that I felt that way since I am not a Clapton is God guy. Not so soulful and not the technician that FZ was (I admit that is setting the bar pretty high.)
Ride -- Daydream
Dinosaur Jr -- On the Way
Rolling Stones -- Time Waits For No One
Manic Street Preachers -- Motor Cycle Emptiness
Cream -- Badge
Ten Years After -- I'm Going Home (Woodstock)
Derek and Dominoes -- Little Wing (my favorite cover of the song)
Smashing Pumpkins -- Geek USA
Velvet Underground -- What Goes On
Primal Scream -- Accelerator
Joined: 02 May 2005 Posts: 90299 Location: Formerly Known As 24
Posted: Sat Jul 03, 2010 11:46 pm Post subject:
ExPatLkrFan wrote:
24 wrote:
ExPatLkrFan wrote:
Duane Allman and Dickie Betts - Whippin' Post
Frank Zappa - Black Napkins
Freddie King - Have You Ever Loved a Woman
Joe Bonamassa... please.
What do you have against Joe?
Sounds like he went to "Blues School" which figures since his idol Eric Clapton was one of several graduates from the John Mayall and the Bluesbreakers (others include Peter Green, Jeff Beck, and Jimmy Page). The technique is right but its not so soulful you know.
Hell I heard better right here in little old Mukdahan when David Mayfield was traveling thru and jammed with the Thai guys at the local club on a borrowed Strat copy and the electric mandolin. He is a top five mandolin player in the world (according to some) but can handle anything with strings on it. (Acoustic bass included!!!!) He's better on guitar than Joe, in my opinion of course.
I think I got rubbed the wrong way when I met Joe's road manager, who was visiting a mutual friend here and tried to tell me he is the best guitar player in the world. I watched the RAH dvd and was not so impressed. But since he's a Clapton acolyte it is not surprising that I felt that way since I am not a Clapton is God guy. Not so soulful and not the technician that FZ was (I admit that is setting the bar pretty high.)
I can respect your take, although I disagree in several areas.
First, Clapton is a great guitarist who defies a particular niche. And his love of blues was and is genuine. If not for Brits like him, you probably wouldn't have a tenth of the blues fans we do today.
As for Bonamassa, like me, he came from being a rock fan and discovered blues through the Brits and worked backward. It is why I'm partial to him and SRV and a few others, the melding of screaming rock lines into blues music. Absolutely an amazing live show. His technique is fantastic, BTW. He can play anything he feels like effortlessly, from jazz to blues to flamenco.
Last, this is about solos, more than genre. I too love really old, "genuine" blues (I know every note of everything Robert Johnson ever recorded by heart). I also love the uptempo, "modern" blues/rock fusion stuff. And solos are to me at least partially visceral, and if you listen to Blues Delux or Django/Just got paid, there's a lot of visceral stuff going on. _________________ “We must always take sides. Neutrality helps the oppressor, never the victim. Silence encourages the tormentor, never the tormented.” ― Elie Wiesel
Duane Allman and Dickie Betts - Whippin' Post
Frank Zappa - Black Napkins
Freddie King - Have You Ever Loved a Woman
Joe Bonamassa... please.
What do you have against Joe?
Sounds like he went to "Blues School" which figures since his idol Eric Clapton was one of several graduates from the John Mayall and the Bluesbreakers (others include Peter Green, Jeff Beck, and Jimmy Page). The technique is right but its not so soulful you know.
Hell I heard better right here in little old Mukdahan when David Mayfield was traveling thru and jammed with the Thai guys at the local club on a borrowed Strat copy and the electric mandolin. He is a top five mandolin player in the world (according to some) but can handle anything with strings on it. (Acoustic bass included!!!!) He's better on guitar than Joe, in my opinion of course.
I think I got rubbed the wrong way when I met Joe's road manager, who was visiting a mutual friend here and tried to tell me he is the best guitar player in the world. I watched the RAH dvd and was not so impressed. But since he's a Clapton acolyte it is not surprising that I felt that way since I am not a Clapton is God guy. Not so soulful and not the technician that FZ was (I admit that is setting the bar pretty high.)
I can respect your take, although I disagree in several areas.
First, Clapton is a great guitarist who defies a particular niche. And his love of blues was and is genuine. If not for Brits like him, you probably wouldn't have a tenth of the blues fans we do today.
As for Bonamassa, like me, he came from being a rock fan and discovered blues through the Brits and worked backward. It is why I'm partial to him and SRV and a few others, the melding of screaming rock lines into blues music. Absolutely an amazing live show. His technique is fantastic, BTW. He can play anything he feels like effortlessly, from jazz to blues to flamenco.
Last, this is about solos, more than genre. I too love really old, "genuine" blues (I know every note of everything Robert Johnson ever recorded by heart). I also love the uptempo, "modern" blues/rock fusion stuff. And solos are to me at least partially visceral, and if you listen to Blues Delux or Django/Just got paid, there's a lot of visceral stuff going on.
For me it was the opposite. Growing up in suburban Atlanta Ga in the 60s most of us didn't listen to the Beatles or the other British bands. They were for the 12 year old girls. The stuff that was popular there was Beach Music / Soul Music... Sam and Dave, Otis Redding, Wilson Pickett, Sam Cooke, The Drifters w/ Ben E. King, it was just a natural progression to Muddy Waters, BB, Howlin' Wolf (with Hubert Sumlin) and the Allman Brothers band (with Duane before they changed to a more country flavor).
I still catch hell when I my Brit friends and some of my East coast buddies that I did't / don't think the Beatles were all that mostly just a well produced and promoted boy band, for the most part. Though they do have some stuff I like.
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Posted: Sun Jul 04, 2010 11:30 pm Post subject:
Now I see why you're hiding I'm Thailand... _________________ “We must always take sides. Neutrality helps the oppressor, never the victim. Silence encourages the tormentor, never the tormented.” ― Elie Wiesel
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