Lakers in the News 12/31/13: Pau-for-Bynum Trade Talk - Lakers Lose - Praise for Nick Young

 
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 31, 2013 1:51 pm    Post subject: Lakers in the News 12/31/13: Pau-for-Bynum Trade Talk - Lakers Lose - Praise for Nick Young

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Why the Lakers wouldn't agree to the Pau-for-Bynum trade
By Mark Medina, Los Angeles Daily News
POSTED: 12/31/2013 02:04:14 PM PST | UPDATED: 4 MIN. AGO


Los Angeles Lakers forward Pau Gasol, left, of Spain reacts to a call along with center Andrew Bynum during the second half in Game 4 of an NBA basketball playoffs Western Conference semifinal against the Oklahoma City Thunder, Saturday, May 19, 2012, in Los Angeles. The Thunder won 103-100. (Mark J. Terrill/Associated Press)
Pau Gasol and Andrew Bynum will forever be linked as Laker teammates. It's unlikely they will be linked as centerpieces of a deal, however, that would involve Gasol going to the Cleveland Cavaliers and Bynum going to the Lakers.

According to a league source familiar with the details, the Lakers wouldn't accept such a proposal as reported by ESPN.com.

One, the Lakers have no desire to bring back Bynum. His role in bringing two NBA championships with the Lakers was soured with behavior issues before ultimately being part of a four-team traded that brought Dwight Howard to the Lakers last season. Bynum was also indefinitely suspended by the Cavaliers for conduct detrimental to the team. Bynum has only averaged 8.4 points on 41.9 percent shooting and 5.3 rebounds in 20 minutes.

Secondly, the Lakers aren't keen on the deal even if it would involve immediately waiving Bynum and saving up to $20 million in payroll and luxury taxes. The Lakers would owe Bynum $6 million of his $12.3 million salary if he was waived before Jan. 7.


http://www.mercurynews.com/national-sports-news/ci_24824691/why-lakers-wouldnt-agree-any-andrew-bynum-trade


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December 31, 2013

Late this morning, sources close to the situation downplayed rumors of a trade that would send Pau Gasol to the Cleveland Cavaliers, returning Andrew Bynum to the Lakers roster.

Mike Bresnahan of the Los Angeles Times reported just moments ago:

"...the Lakers would want more value for Gasol in a trade and, additionally, that it would be a stretch for the Lakers to reacquire Bynum, who is indefinitely suspended by the Cavaliers for conduct detrimental to the team."
Notice what was not included in the quote above? A denial, that is what is missing.

Instead, the person familiar with the talks stressed the necessity of getting more in return for sending Gasol out of Los Angeles. Draft pick? Perhaps.

To answer the burning question of why the Lakers would want the problem man-child named Andrew Bynum back in purple and gold, is that they don't.

The team, according to the NBA analysts who have buzzed all morning about this news, would waive Bynum, leaving him available as a pickup in the free agent market.


http://www.examiner.com/article/lakers-don-t-deny-pau-gasol-for-andrew-bynum-rumors
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Cleveland Cavaliers should push hard to make a deal for Pau Gasol: Terry Pluto

Sitting next to Kobie Bryant in earl December, Pau Gasol is unhappy with the Lakers and would welcome a trade. (AP/Photo)
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CLEVELAND, Ohio -- Yes, the Cavaliers need to make a trade.

Oh, do they need to make a trade -- especially a trade for a player such as Pau Gasol.

And it's possible that the Cavs and Lakers may indeed find a way to put together a deal -- because these two struggling teams need each other.

On the day that Andrew Bynum was suspended, I wrote he could possibly be used in a trade. More than a few readers thought I was cracking under the pressure of writing about so many losing teams.

But Bynum's contract is valuable in the convoluted salary cap world of the NBA salary cap. Former Plain Dealer reporter Brian Windhorst first reported the trade talks and explained many of the nuances.

The point is the Lakers are a mess, and need to find a way to cut $20 million from their salary cap to avoid paying the luxury tax.

A trade of Pau Gasol and Andrew Bynum can make that work, with the Lakers actually cutting Bynum before the last $6 million of his $12 million deal with the Cavs is guaranteed.

That magic date is January 7.


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PostPosted: Tue Dec 31, 2013 1:59 pm    Post subject:

I'd take the "aren't keen on a deal" with a grain of salt, at this point, both teams are trying to sweeten the pot.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 31, 2013 1:59 pm    Post subject:

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Should Lakers deal Gasol for Bynum?
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Gasol-Bynum Trade Discussed


According to sources, the Cavaliers and Lakers have discussed a trade that would bring Andrew Bynum back to Los Angeles, while shipping Pau Gasol to Cleveland. Our writers weigh in on the potential deal.

1. Good deal for the Lakers?

Larry Coon, ESPN.com: Depends. If they do this deal, the Lakers finally would be coming to grips with the reality that's been clear to the rest of the league since Dwight Howard signed with Houston: their strategic best course of action this season is to tank. The only question is whether this deal gives them the most future assets. Can they also snag a Cavs draft pick?

Amin Elhassan, ESPN Insider: Yes. Let's be perfectly honest and acknowledge the Lakers' season isn't going anywhere. They lack the talent to keep up in a stacked Western Conference, and what little talent they have has been ravaged by injury. This deal would allow them to reset, save a lot of cash, improve their chances at a higher 2014 lottery pick and maybe even score an additional asset.

Israel Gutierrez, ESPN.com: Yes. Sad, because we're not used to the Lakers essentially giving up on a season, but good because any time you can get out of paying luxury tax, the benefits aren't just for that season but for the seasons to follow. And if you're not keeping Gasol past this season, or making the playoffs, then escaping the tax can be considered a significant victory.


http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/page/5-on-5-131231/possible-andrew-bynum-pau-gasol-trade
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 31, 2013 2:01 pm    Post subject:

Telleris wrote:
I'd take the "aren't keen on a deal" with a grain of salt, at this point, both teams are trying to sweeten the pot.


Yes, read LC's comment below your post.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 31, 2013 2:02 pm    Post subject:

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Dumping Gasol for Bynum would represent seismic shift for Lakers
December 31, 2013 11:39 am ET

This is the NBA's new math.

In what universe would the Lakers even consider dumping a four-time All-Star in nothing more than an accounting move to save a few bucks in salary and luxury tax? In this universe, that's what -- the universe created by the 2011 collective bargaining agreement.

According to ESPN.com, the Lakers have had discussions with the Cavaliers about a trade that would send Pau Gasol to Cleveland for Andrew Bynum. The motivation? With Kobe Bryant hurt again and the Lakers clinging to slim hopes of even making the playoffs in the stacked Western Conference, LA would then waive Bynum before the other half of his $12.25 million salary becomes guaranteed on Jan. 7.

Depending on how the deal is structured, it could save the Lakers millions in salary and luxury tax this season and nudge them under the tax threshold -- which would save them from the dreaded repeater tax next season.

Rival executives are dubious that the orbital patterns of the cosmos have changed so dramatically that the Lakers would simply fold their hand and give up.

"It stinks to me," one such executive said Tuesday.

Yet in the NBA's new financial and competitive landscape, that which stinks sometimes makes sense.


http://www.cbssports.com/nba/writer/ken-berger/24393226/dumping-gasol-for-bynum-would-represent-seismic-shift-for-lakers
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EL SEGUNDO, Calif. -- Nick Young will likely replace Wes Johnson in starting lineup for the Los Angeles Lakers' game against the Milwaukee Bucks on Tuesday night, Lakers coach Mike D'Antoni said after shootaround Tuesday morning.

Johnson has gastroenteritis (stomach bug) and did not attend shootaround but should still be available to play.

"He's sick," D'Antoni said. "He'll probably play tonight, Wes, (we) hope that they can get him there, get his stomach calmed down."

Young is the Lakers' leading scorer this season, averaging 16.2 points per game and has been even better as of late, scoring 20-plus points in five of his last six games, but he's been doing his damage as a bench player.

Young is averaging 17.8 points, 2.4 rebounds and 1.7 assists while shooting 44.3 percent from the field and 39.1 percent from 3 in 25 games as the Lakers' sixth man this season. In the six games he started so far, he averaged just 9.5 points, 2.5 rebounds and 0.5 assists while shooting 33.3 percent from the field and 23.5 percent from deep.

"We'll look and see how it goes tonight," D'Antoni said of the notion of promoting Young back to full-time starter. "You always evaluate it, but it was caused by (Johnson's sickness) and then we'll see what happens."


http://espn.go.com/blog/los-angeles/lakers/post/_/id/38399/young-to-start-against-milwaukee
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 31, 2013 2:07 pm    Post subject:

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Lakers downplay Bynum-for-Gasol report

The Lakers' Pau Gasol is fouled by Miami Heat's Dwyane Wade. (Wally Skalij / Los Angeles Times / December 25, 2013)
By Mike Bresnahan
December 31, 2013, 11:14 a.m.

Andrew Bynum and Pau Gasol used to be Lakers teammates. Now they might be traded for each other, according to an ESPN.com report.

The Lakers and Cleveland Cavaliers reportedly discussed a deal that would involve the two big men, a move that would save the Lakers more than $20 million in payroll and luxury taxes.

But a person familiar with the situation downplayed the report, saying the Lakers would want more value for Gasol in a trade and, additionally, that it would be a stretch for the Lakers to reacquire Bynum, who is indefinitely suspended by the Cavaliers for conduct detrimental to the team.

If the Lakers traded for Bynum, however, it would officially signal the start of Tank Time. They are 13-18 and fighting a slew of injuries heading into Tuesday night's game against Milwaukee. Bynum, 26, was not playing well before his suspension, averaging only 8.4 points and 5.3 rebounds per game.

The Lakers would have to pay Bynum only about $6 million of his $12.3-million salary if they waived him before Jan. 7. Bynum has a non-guaranteed contract because of recurring knee problems. Gasol is making $19.3 million in the last year of his contract.

The Cavaliers would have to include another player to make the deal work under NBA trade rules.



http://www.latimes.com/sports/lakersnow/la-sp-ln-lakers-bynum-gasol-20131231,0,6169700.story#ixzz2p5uEVuiv
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 31, 2013 2:08 pm    Post subject:

Cleveland will fold. Gasol gone by January 7th. Kinda sad. But it's the smart thing to do.

We should have traded Dwight. We should have. Dwight admitted to everyone he was unhappy.

Gasol is about the money he's gone too. Trade him

We have the upper hand here. We have shown we don't care if we let superstars walk and we are the lakers.

Go get us a good package for Pau. Go get that 1st draft pick.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 31, 2013 2:13 pm    Post subject:

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Cleveland will fold. Gasol gone by January 7th. Kinda sad. But it's the smart thing to do.

We should have traded Dwight. We should have. Dwight admitted to everyone he was unhappy.

Gasol is about the money he's gone too. Trade him

We have the upper hand here. We have shown we don't care if we let superstars walk and we are the lakers.

Go get us a good package for Pau. Go get that 1st draft pick.


Good thinking and Cleveland has to add a player.


I couldn't copy and paste this article in Fox.sports. Just a repaet but I'll leave the link.

http://msn.foxsports.com/ohio/story/sources-cavs-lakers-talking-bynum-for-gasol-trade-123113
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 31, 2013 2:16 pm    Post subject:

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Lakers vs. Bucks Game Preview

BY MIKE GARCIA - DEC 31ST, 2013 AT 2:00 PM

It’s the last game of the year and Pau Gasol is expected to play. He attended practice yesterday. Hopefully he can put out double-digit minutes and output some effective play. It’ll be needed.

The Milwaukee Bucks have a few key players that can give the Lakers fits on defense.


One of those players is Khris Middleton. Those who know me, know I have raved about him for a few years since he was in Detroit. He’s a 6’8″ small forward. A solid athlete, he’s very adept at knocking down the perimeter shot, or creating shots with 1-2 dribble moves. Isolation play isn’t key to his game, but he is the shooter the Laker team needs to watch out for. If he gets hot, things get ugly, quickly. How pure of a shooter is he? He shoots 46% from the field, but 45% behind the arc, and 89% at the free throw line. His quick release is tough to defend. In his last 5 games, he’s averaging 19.6 points per game, 7 rebounds per game, and 3 assists a game with just 1.6 turnovers.


http://lakeshowlife.com/2013/12/31/lakers-vs-bucks-game-preview/
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 31, 2013 2:37 pm    Post subject:

I did call this trade a week ago the Cavs have always wanted Gasol and they like his game. There's no doubt that Pau will be traded but Mitch will only do it if the Cavs give up their 1st round pick. As inconsistent Pau is now with Irving i think you'll see him improve and they can make a push for the 7th or 8th seed. The Cavs gm is stubborn and value picks and players too high but he has no other choice if he wants Gasol.

The Lakers have all the leverage in this deal Dan Gilbert has to be putting pressure on gm Grant to make the playoffs. Lebron is a Fa next year so getting in to the playoffs will improve their chances.He's already blown two top 5 picks in Waiters and Bennett, both look like role players at best he could be trying to save his job.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 31, 2013 2:40 pm    Post subject:

thumpinghead wrote:
Cleveland will fold. Gasol gone by January 7th. Kinda sad. But it's the smart thing to do.

We should have traded Dwight. We should have. Dwight admitted to everyone he was unhappy.

Gasol is about the money he's gone too. Trade him

We have the upper hand here. We have shown we don't care if we let superstars walk and we are the lakers.

Go get us a good package for Pau. Go get that 1st draft pick.


I was one if the folks who advocated a Howard trade last year, but even I understand why they didn't at the time. It looked like it was coming together with Howard at the time.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 31, 2013 2:52 pm    Post subject:

I was never a fan of Howard's game i thought he was a good defensive player but couldn't develop offensively. The reason Iggy signed with the Warriors is because West had offered Barnes, Bogut, and 2 1st thinking that would be enough. Mitch didn't want it because he was sure Howard would stay. Jerry West always helped out the Lakers Barnes deal was fair. That wasn't the Warriors intentions when they signed Iggy now Barnes has to sit on the bench when he could have been a Laker.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 31, 2013 2:54 pm    Post subject:

If it hasn't happened by tomorrow night, then it isn't going to happen at all.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 31, 2013 2:55 pm    Post subject:

Tough to say how far Cleveland is willing to go to trade for Deng. Chicago is going to get smashed with a huge luxury tax bill if they don't.

It's Boozer that they really want to move.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 31, 2013 3:25 pm    Post subject:

Nice comments and I think Jan. 7th or before is decision day.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 31, 2013 4:31 pm    Post subject:

Cha*n wrote:
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Lakers vs. Bucks Game Preview

BY MIKE GARCIA - DEC 31ST, 2013 AT 2:00 PM

It’s the last game of the year and Pau Gasol is expected to play. He attended practice yesterday. Hopefully he can put out double-digit minutes and output some effective play. It’ll be needed.

The Milwaukee Bucks have a few key players that can give the Lakers fits on defense.


One of those players is Khris Middleton. Those who know me, know I have raved about him for a few years since he was in Detroit. He’s a 6’8″ small forward. A solid athlete, he’s very adept at knocking down the perimeter shot, or creating shots with 1-2 dribble moves. Isolation play isn’t key to his game, but he is the shooter the Laker team needs to watch out for. If he gets hot, things get ugly, quickly. How pure of a shooter is he? He shoots 46% from the field, but 45% behind the arc, and 89% at the free throw line. His quick release is tough to defend. In his last 5 games, he’s averaging 19.6 points per game, 7 rebounds per game, and 3 assists a game with just 1.6 turnovers.


http://lakeshowlife.com/2013/12/31/lakers-vs-bucks-game-preview/


I've watched Middleton play a few times now, and he is a solid player. The Bucks have a nice roster going forward if their players continue to develop, on top of a high lotto pick this year. Seems like Middleton is better than Brandon Knight of the Jennings trade.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 31, 2013 9:33 pm    Post subject:

Lakers lose 94-79 Box Shore in the link

http://www.nba.com/games/20131231/MILLAL/gameinfo.html
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Nick Young has far exceeded expectations Lakers had for him
Young, who signed as a free agent in July, has provided a lot of entertainment with his style of play. He is also averaging a team-high 16.2 points a game.

Lakers guard Nick Young tries to swipe the ball from Bucks guard Giannis Antetokounmpo in the first half. (Alex Gallardo / Associated Press / December 31, 2013)

By Mike Bresnahan
December 31, 2013, 9:49 p.m.

Interspersed almost strangely among all the success is a handful of bad years in Lakers history, with 2013 near the top in unfulfilled promise.

There wasn't much for Lakers fans to cheer, be it the calamitous Dwight Howard season that ended with Kobe Bryant's torn Achilles' tendon and a first-round playoff sweep in April, or this season's ridiculously ho-hum record with seemingly everybody injured.

Nick Young has been a bundle of entertainment, though, a free-agent afterthought back in July who makes any game amusing for better, for worse, for whatever.

He's prone to missing a lot of shots, and takes plenty of questionable ones, but he's one of the few Lakers who can create his own shot. And he has a semi-catchy nickname to match his free-spirited personality.

Young has exceeded the Lakers' expectations "by far ... not even close," Coach Mike D'Antoni said Tuesday.

But in typical hard-luck Lakers fashion these days, Young can opt out of his contract in June by declining a relatively low player option of $1.2 million. The average NBA salary is about $5.5 million.



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 01, 2014 12:14 pm    Post subject:

With Kyrie possible injured, all things are on hold


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 01, 2014 2:49 pm    Post subject:

If Gasol is clearly gone by season's end, Mitch would be foolish to let him expire for nothing. Atleast get us picks back. We got nothing for dwight
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 01, 2014 4:19 pm    Post subject:

calistrtballr wrote:
If Gasol is clearly gone by season's end, Mitch would be foolish to let him expire for nothing. Atleast get us picks back. We got nothing for dwight
at the end of the season; he will be off the books

what is the logic of getting non-lottery draft picks that will probably not make the roster or need 3-4 years to make an impact.

getting somebody like deng, haywood, bledsoe and/or other pieces would be a better option since Lebron is not coming and why do we need an aging superstar (Melo) who has proven that this talented offensive player does not know how to pkay on a championship team
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