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Will Aldridge make the Hall of Fame?
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 15, 2021 7:51 am    Post subject: LaMarcus Aldridge retires

https://www.nba.com/news/nets-lamarcus-aldridge-announces-hes-retiring-from-nba

Hall of Famer?
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 15, 2021 10:04 am    Post subject:

Hall of very good. Not the hall of fame.

He was one of the most skilled big men prospects in history, elite measurable, but his criticism in college, from Shaquille O’Neal for some reason, was that he was soft, avoided contact. He had a blog in 2008, or so, which he wrote in detail his hatred for the Lakers, probably because of Shaquille. They had next! Brandon Roy, Aldridge, and Greg Oden. Damian Lillard, Nic Batum, and Aldridge. Asked out, got to San Antonio, heir apparent to Tim Duncan, could not win with Kawhi Leonard. Asked out, got to Brooklyn, tried to stack the deck again. Got sonned by Andre Drummond. He averaged 19 and 9 for his career, with stacked teams, with great coaches, and never won anything. Maybe Shaquille was right.


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PostPosted: Thu Apr 15, 2021 10:17 am    Post subject:

JUST-MING wrote:
Hall of very good. Not the hall of fame.

He was one of the most skilled big men prospects in history, elite measurable, but his criticism in college, from Shaquille O’Neal for some reason, was that he was soft, avoided contact. He had a blog in 2008, or so, which he wrote in detail his hatred for the Lakers, probably because of Shaquille. They had next! Brandon Roy, Aldridge, and Greg Oden. Damian Lillard, Nic Batum, and Aldridge. Asked out, got to San Antonio, heir apparent to Tim Duncan, could not win with Kawhi Leonard. Asked out, got to Brooklyn, tried to stack the deck again. Got sonned by Andre Drummond. He averaged 19 and 9 for his career, with stacked teams, with great coaches, and never won anything at any level. Maybe Shaquille was right.


Comparable to Pau Gasol impact wise or not on the same level?
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 15, 2021 11:06 am    Post subject:

Comparable. That’s fair. Lemarcus Aldridge and Pau Gasol were both 19 and 9 players. I don’t remember Lemarcus in the conversation for best at his position, in his peak, that was Blake Griffin or Kevin Love. I could say the same for Pau, in his peak, that was Tim Duncan or Kevin Garnett. Charles Barkley tried to put Pau in the conversation with Dirk before that 2006 series. Charles was laughed at by Ernie and Kenny after every game for it. In fact, that 2006 series played out like that 2011 series. I guess the difference is the championships.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 15, 2021 2:39 pm    Post subject:

Not Hall. Throughout history there've been numerous guys like this, though. Very good, and consistently good players who just never got 'greatness' put by their names.

I do wonder what role his apparent heart condition played into the way he played his game, or the intensity/physicality (or lackthereof) of his game. But I'm not nearly knowledgeable enough about that stuff to venture a guess.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 15, 2021 7:24 pm    Post subject:

Boarderline. The BB Hall isn't actually that hard to get into but he never won anything and was never the best at anything except maybe midrange jumper from a PF.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 15, 2021 7:27 pm    Post subject:

CandyCanes wrote:
JUST-MING wrote:
Hall of very good. Not the hall of fame.

He was one of the most skilled big men prospects in history, elite measurable, but his criticism in college, from Shaquille O’Neal for some reason, was that he was soft, avoided contact. He had a blog in 2008, or so, which he wrote in detail his hatred for the Lakers, probably because of Shaquille. They had next! Brandon Roy, Aldridge, and Greg Oden. Damian Lillard, Nic Batum, and Aldridge. Asked out, got to San Antonio, heir apparent to Tim Duncan, could not win with Kawhi Leonard. Asked out, got to Brooklyn, tried to stack the deck again. Got sonned by Andre Drummond. He averaged 19 and 9 for his career, with stacked teams, with great coaches, and never won anything at any level. Maybe Shaquille was right.


Comparable to Pau Gasol impact wise or not on the same level?


Pau is a 2X world champ as a 2nd option and has an amazing International Game resume. Take those away and they are fairly similar....
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 16, 2021 1:55 pm    Post subject:

Aldridge will probably make it -- 19-8 over 15 seasons, 7 all-star games, 5 all-NBA teams is a reasonable HoF resume.

That compares favorably with a lot of guys they've let in recently -- Maurice Cheeks, Paul Westphal, Sidney Moncrief, Artis Gilmore.

Basketball reference says the players with the closest career arc to him are Chris Bosh, Elvin Hayes, Alex English, Detlef Schrempf and Horace Grant (in that order).

That said, the HoF is so mysterious in their introduction process it's not really clear why some guys get in and others don't.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 16, 2021 2:05 pm    Post subject:

JUST-MING wrote:
I don’t remember Lemarcus in the conversation for best at his position, in his peak, that was Blake Griffin or Kevin Love.


I'd say Aldridge, Love and Griffin were more or less equivalent.

In terms of all-star/all-NBA appearances:

Aldridge - 7-5
Griffin - 6-5
Love - 5-3

None of them ever made an all-NBA first team or was in contention for the MVP. They're not Dirk/Duncan type players. They were/are all second-tier stars. But lots of second-tier stars make the Hall. And all three of them could.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 20, 2021 8:43 pm    Post subject:

Nothing overly spectacular about this guy...
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