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MookieBetts50 Star Player
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Posted: Thu Apr 15, 2021 9:44 pm Post subject: |
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Off hand at least but still.... |
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Nash Vegas Star Player
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Posted: Thu Apr 15, 2021 10:10 pm Post subject: |
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Jordan-esque wrote: | Gasol 18 points on 7/10 shooting with a broken finger in only 20 mins.
Will be DNP once again in the next game once Drummond comes back. |
Lakers cut Boston’s lead to 7 with Marc, but the moment he sits for Trez, Boston’s lead goes up to 20. _________________ |
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leking006 Star Player
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leking006 Star Player
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Posted: Thu Apr 15, 2021 11:26 pm Post subject: |
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TV's Harrison Faigen
@hmfaigen
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Frank Vogel, on what Marc Gasol said to him before staying in with a dislocated finger that had just been popped back in.
"No, this is my left hand, I'm good." |
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defense Retired Number
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Posted: Fri Apr 16, 2021 4:50 am Post subject: |
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leking006 wrote: | TV's Harrison Faigen
@hmfaigen
· 2h
Frank Vogel, on what Marc Gasol said to him before staying in with a dislocated finger that had just been popped back in.
"No, this is my left hand, I'm good." |
Respeck! |
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lakurluv Star Player
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Posted: Fri Apr 16, 2021 5:30 am Post subject: |
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Wow, fractured finger and still managed to squeak out some good productive numbers; I'm actually impressed!
It's amazing what a little motivation can do. If he keeps that mentality and gets healthy before the playoffs, trust me, teams are in trouble. |
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Nash Vegas Star Player
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Posted: Mon Apr 19, 2021 7:49 pm Post subject: |
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Bust out that Gasol / Trez line up now Frank! Now is the best time to try it out! _________________ |
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leking006 Star Player
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Posted: Mon Apr 19, 2021 8:27 pm Post subject: |
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Harrell was disinterested, but Vogel keep Gasol on the bench who really wants to be on the floor even with a fractured finger. |
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Brawn13 Star Player
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Posted: Mon Apr 19, 2021 11:12 pm Post subject: |
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Put Marc in!!!
I wouldn’t mind seeing Harrell not playing for awhile |
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Iron Mamba Star Player
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Posted: Tue Apr 20, 2021 10:01 am Post subject: |
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Marc Gasol numbers since Andre Drummond joined (6 games):
Quote: | Points: 8.7
Rebounds: 4.8
Assists: 2.8
Blocks: 1.2
Field Goal: 61.7%
3-Point: 55.6%
Mins: 17.54
Plus/Minus: -2 |
Gasol observations are all his numbers have gone up, most notably points, field goal and 3-point percentages have seen a bigger jump. _________________ Endgame
Hail Hydra |
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cathy78 Star Player
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Posted: Tue Apr 20, 2021 10:24 am Post subject: |
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Why doesn't he play? Is he actually more injured than we know? Or is it the beginning of locker room problems? |
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Nash Vegas Star Player
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Posted: Tue Apr 20, 2021 10:46 am Post subject: |
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cathy78 wrote: | Why doesn't he play? Is he actually more injured than we know? Or is it the beginning of locker room problems? |
More like Vogel trying to make Trez and his -33 plus/minus happy. _________________ |
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hype Star Player
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Posted: Tue Apr 20, 2021 2:25 pm Post subject: |
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Nash Vegas wrote: | cathy78 wrote: | Why doesn't he play? Is he actually more injured than we know? Or is it the beginning of locker room problems? |
More like Vogel trying to make Trez and his -33 plus/minus happy. |
Yeah, against Gobert especially Trezz looked like a legit g-leaguer on both ends. He is also a black hole at times and when he gets the ball and it doesn't come back out which is fine when he's feasting but not when he's clearly outmatched against bigger 5's. I don't even put that against him as a player because the coach should know this considering it's completely evident to fans/players league wide. Anytime Gobert was in there and Dre was on the bench it should have been Gasol imo.
Not saying Gasol needs to play heavy minutes but expecting Trezz to man the middle against legit centers is a disaster waiting to happen nearly every time especially without Lebron and AD out there to mask it.
Gasol has been playing great anytime he's gotten a chance lately and looks to be back in his pre-covid condition so not sure why Vogel is not even giving him minutes in at least matchups like this.
There's been several stretches lately especially where you put Gasol out there and our offense/defense just simply looks significantly better and more smooth. I really don't get it at this point and it's the only thing that's extremely frustrating about Vogel lately so it really does make me wonder if there's more going on behind the scenes. |
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King Randle Star Player
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Posted: Tue Apr 20, 2021 2:55 pm Post subject: |
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hype wrote: | Nash Vegas wrote: | cathy78 wrote: | Why doesn't he play? Is he actually more injured than we know? Or is it the beginning of locker room problems? |
More like Vogel trying to make Trez and his -33 plus/minus happy. |
Yeah, against Gobert especially Trezz looked like a legit g-leaguer on both ends. He is also a black hole at times and when he gets the ball and it doesn't come back out which is fine when he's feasting but not when he's clearly outmatched against bigger 5's. I don't even put that against him as a player because the coach should know this considering it's completely evident to fans/players league wide. Anytime Gobert was in there and Dre was on the bench it should have been Gasol imo.
Not saying Gasol needs to play heavy minutes but expecting Trezz to man the middle against legit centers is a disaster waiting to happen nearly every time especially without Lebron and AD out there to mask it.
Gasol has been playing great anytime he's gotten a chance lately and looks to be back in his pre-covid condition so not sure why Vogel is not even giving him minutes in at least matchups like this.
There's been several stretches lately especially where you put Gasol out there and our offense/defense just simply looks significantly better and more smooth. I really don't get it at this point and it's the only thing that's extremely frustrating about Vogel lately so it really does make me wonder if there's more going on behind the scenes. |
I agree....I've been tough on Gasol but he has been playing better and when Trezz isn't doing a damn thing give Gasol some minutes. |
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unleasHell Franchise Player
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Posted: Tue Apr 20, 2021 8:43 pm Post subject: |
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Hopefully he retires at the end of this season... _________________ “Always remember... Rumors are carried by haters, spread by fools, and accepted by idiots.” |
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ThePageDude Star Player
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Posted: Wed Apr 21, 2021 3:34 am Post subject: |
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unleasHell wrote: | Hopefully he retires at the end of this season... |
Does that really help the Lakers? He is paid peanuts (just 1m more than an empty slot) so it's not as if his departure gets cap relief.
Meanwhile having him as a bench/situational option does gain something because playmaking stretch 5's are rare, and he's in the top 10 shooting-wise (centers) even at his age. |
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Halflife Franchise Player
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Posted: Wed Apr 21, 2021 8:19 am Post subject: |
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I feel he will be valuable in more than a game or two this post season. |
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BandwagonLBJhopper Star Player
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Posted: Wed Apr 21, 2021 8:28 am Post subject: |
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Halflife wrote: | I feel he will be valuable in more than a game or two this post season. |
If Vogel actually plays him. He seems to be of the mindset that if Drummond plays and isn't hurt, Gasol is not allowed to see the court. |
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LakerSD Franchise Player
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Posted: Wed Apr 21, 2021 8:45 am Post subject: |
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If there is a 1st round matchup with Jokic, Gasol will be needed.
If there is a 2nd round series against Utah, Gasol will be needed.
I hope Frank sees it... |
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Koalita Starting Rotation
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Posted: Wed Apr 21, 2021 9:48 am Post subject: |
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BandwagonLBJhopper wrote: | Halflife wrote: | I feel he will be valuable in more than a game or two this post season. |
If Vogel actually plays him. He seems to be of the mindset that if Drummond plays and isn't hurt, Gasol is not allowed to see the court. |
I hope Vogel is giving Trez minutes to keep him happy so when playoff comes he can bench Trez and give other teams a beating with the right match up. |
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kikanga Retired Number
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Posted: Wed Apr 21, 2021 9:50 am Post subject: |
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The Gasol we've seen since Andre came here. That's the Gasol we needed all year. Hopefully he stays ready and engaged. Cause there will be matchups in the playoffs where he is our best option at C outside AD. _________________ "Every hurt is a lesson, and every lesson makes you better” |
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Nash Vegas Star Player
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Posted: Wed Apr 21, 2021 10:06 am Post subject: |
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kikanga wrote: | The Gasol we've seen since Andre came here. That's the Gasol we needed all year. Hopefully he stays ready and engaged. Cause there will be matchups in the playoffs where he is our best option at C outside AD. |
THIS.
However, Vogel seems to have this mindset that it's either or for Gasol and Trez. If he plays Trez, then no Gasol. If he plays Gasol, then no Trez. So unless Vogel can play them both, I don't think Trez will appreciate getting a DNP like Dwight/McGee last year in the playoffs. _________________ |
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Nash Vegas Star Player
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Posted: Thu Apr 22, 2021 7:42 pm Post subject: |
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Gasol >>>> Trez plus/minus _________________ |
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Lonzo-Lite Star Player
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Posted: Fri Apr 23, 2021 9:21 am Post subject: |
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Iron Mamba wrote: | Marc Gasol numbers since Andre Drummond joined (6 games):
Quote: | Points: 8.7
Rebounds: 4.8
Assists: 2.8
Blocks: 1.2
Field Goal: 61.7%
3-Point: 55.6%
Mins: 17.54
Plus/Minus: -2 |
Gasol observations are all his numbers have gone up, most notably points, field goal and 3-point percentages have seen a bigger jump. |
What's frustrating is that Lakers now have a fully motivated Marc Gasol who has a fire lit ever since Drummond came in that he's stepped up his whole game while playing fewer mins. And instead of the Lakers capitalizing on this new found fire and motivation, they just sit him on the bench. _________________ Tacos |
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cathy78 Star Player
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Posted: Fri Apr 23, 2021 9:25 am Post subject: |
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Something is wrong here. Marc should play, he is the only playmaker we have right now... |
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