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Does THT Now Start For The Team Because Of His New Contract? |
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Megaton Retired Number
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Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2021 5:41 pm Post subject: Talen Horton-Tucker Is Now The 4th Highest Paid Player On The Team. Does He Start? |
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Players paid the Vet Min:
- Carmelo Anthony
- Dwight Howard
- Kent Bazemore
- Trevor Ariza
- Malink Monk
- Wayne Ellington
Players paid the MMLE:
- Kendrick Nunn
THT's new contract: $10.5 Mill per year for 3 years. Behind only Lebron, AD and Westbrook for highest paid player on the team.
People last year and years before, always made cases for Players starting here because of purely financial reasons. Basically, because of how much they were being paid. So now, THT is the 4th highest paid player on the team. With that logic in mind, that means he should start next to Westbrook in the backcourt.
Does that happen now? Yes or no? Why or why not? _________________ Darvin Scam: https://media.tenor.com/images/3c15249955860a4b16b59e8ae035fb75/tenor.gif |
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kikanga Retired Number
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Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2021 5:43 pm Post subject: |
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No. But he will eat a ton on offense.
Teams will be hesitant to help on his penetration since they'll be worried about shooters and our big 3.
And 1 on 1, he'll get his. _________________ "Every hurt is a lesson, and every lesson makes you better” |
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Hard_Butter Franchise Player
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Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2021 5:47 pm Post subject: |
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I personally don't think he should. He'd be a nice ball-handler off the bench. Plus, it's probably more beneficial for his growth to be able to run things with the second unit as opposed to being regulated to a spot-up shooter. And a shooter he is not.
Bazemore/Ellington is a much better fit with the starters. Edge to Bazemore for his defensive versatility. _________________ The butter's hard and the eggs are chillin' in the dark.
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ContagiousInspiration Franchise Player
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Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2021 5:54 pm Post subject: |
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Talen Manu Horton–Tucker
Talen Barkley Horton–Tucker
Talen Oakley Horton–Tucker
I agree with Zulu.. reading their reply I could sense LeBron molding him and encouraging him to lead the 2nd unit or be our TNT off the bench when necessary. |
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Dr. Laker Franchise Player
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Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2021 5:56 pm Post subject: |
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They basically chose THT over AC. If he's not projected to start, they made the wrong choice. _________________ On Lakersground, a concern troll is someone who is a fan of another team, but pretends to be a Lakers fan with "concerns". |
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32 Retired Number
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Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2021 5:59 pm Post subject: |
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He needs to improve his 3 point shooting. _________________ Nobody in the NBA can touch the Laker brand, which, like the uniform color, is pure gold. |
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ContagiousInspiration Franchise Player
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Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2021 6:00 pm Post subject: |
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If he starts do we seek to go Harlem Globetrotters 9000 and clown the league
Bron
AD
Westbrook
THT
Dwight?
You are getting dunked on or your ankles broken every play against that gang 4 certain
Does THT's wingspan mean he has Jordan sized hands or larger? |
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RashardA Star Player
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Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2021 6:01 pm Post subject: |
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No, he is not ready to be a starter on a team trying to make a championship run.
There are more experienced players on this roster who either shoot better or defends better than he does. _________________ Everyting negative - pressure, challenges - is all an opportunity for me to rise.
-Kobe Bryant |
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hype Star Player
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Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2021 6:34 pm Post subject: |
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It's different in this case considering THT is still very young and green with an extremely bright future potentially. We are in absolute full on win now mode so THT getting big minutes and playing through mistakes is not going to happen consistently. Like last season, i'm sure he'll get plenty of opportunities and hopefully we see a more consistent version with less mental mistakes.
Biggest reason though is that unless he GREATLY improves his 3 and consistency there is no chance he starts imo. That doesn't mean he wont have a huge impact though because I believe he absolutely will, just not as a starter. Plus like Zulu said, as a bench player he'd be able to at least partially run things . |
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Megaton Retired Number
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Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2021 7:22 pm Post subject: |
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ContagiousInspiration wrote: | If he starts do we seek to go Harlem Globetrotters 9000 and clown the league
Bron
AD
Westbrook
THT
Dwight?
You are getting dunked on or your ankles broken every play against that gang 4 certain
Does THT's wingspan mean he has Jordan sized hands or larger? |
That fastbreak offense would be deadly. _________________ Darvin Scam: https://media.tenor.com/images/3c15249955860a4b16b59e8ae035fb75/tenor.gif |
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audioaxes Franchise Player
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Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2021 10:19 pm Post subject: |
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just a few months ago people were screaming for Vogel to yank THT out of games for stinking it up with his bad play. Now he starts??
He shoots like 28% from 3... he's the last player who should be paired up with Westbrook and Lebron.
In fact I dont see where playing time comes from if we are really trying to contend over developing a raw 20 year old. For non-Lebron lineups we already have more polished players to take control of the offense in Westbrook, Nunn, Monk. _________________ (bleep) Kawhi |
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twisted Star Player
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Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2021 10:33 pm Post subject: |
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Besides Lebron and Ariza, we dont have anyone to guard big wing forwards. I think THT's role going forward will be to defend that space. He can also do some ballhandling duties when RW and LBJ are resting. Both are off the bench roles, so no, i dont see him starting. _________________ “God knew they couldn’t be on this Earth without each other. He had to bring them home to have them together.” – Vanessa Bryant |
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Lakerz113 Star Player
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Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2021 10:33 pm Post subject: |
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Spacing doesn’t make sense. He will be great off the bench. |
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LakersMD Star Player
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Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2021 10:50 pm Post subject: |
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They don’t need to skip steps in his development. Unless he’s become a much improved shooter he is best used as an attacker off the bench. |
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Eindhoven Star Player
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Posted: Wed Aug 04, 2021 3:11 am Post subject: |
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Starting depends on his development, not on his contract. _________________ .... |
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lakurluv Star Player
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Posted: Wed Aug 04, 2021 4:58 am Post subject: |
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He starts not because of his Salary, but because it makes sense. THT has 'All-Around' potential on both ends and in order for that to develop he needs playing time He's a match-up nightmare for any opposing 2-Guards especially in the paint and open floor, his length and strength are significant.
He would balance out an aged roster, and help to keep teams honest. What some might overlook is the advantage the Lakers would have against most teams where they can't afford to double them anywhere on the floor.
If you start Gasol over Howard, then the team has the potential to spread the floor more because Gasol can shoot the three. This unclogs the lane and allows Brodie and THT to slash and drive to the basket.
The spacing will be bad on the Lakers anyway you slice it, but to me THT is the obvious choice at the starting 2-guard unless we are able to acquire Buddy Hield in a S&T for Schroder in some miracle scenario. |
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danzag Franchise Player
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Posted: Wed Aug 04, 2021 5:01 am Post subject: |
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Maybe next year |
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Ksig Star Player
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Posted: Wed Aug 04, 2021 5:02 am Post subject: |
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Doubtful, maybe as the season progresses. He was a bad defender and his 3 pt shooting was dreadful. If he can correct one of these this offseason then I could see it. |
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J.C. Smith Franchise Player
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Posted: Wed Aug 04, 2021 5:17 am Post subject: |
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Definitely not. Not unless he turns into a sharpshooter this summer. This contract should keep him content while he continues to gain experience off the bench. |
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yinoma2001 Retired Number
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Posted: Wed Aug 04, 2021 5:37 am Post subject: |
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No. We actually have a TON of competition at the guard spot.
WB/Nunn = 48 "PG" minutes.
Baze/Monk/THT/Wes = 48 "SG" minutes.
I think THT will actually have to steal some minutes at "SF," and we go with a fast 3 guard lineup. |
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Four Decade Bandwagon Star Player
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Posted: Wed Aug 04, 2021 5:54 am Post subject: |
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Agree that they will be playing a lot of three guard lineups. With both Bazemore and THT having SF duties.
At the moment, I’m not sure there is a “best choice “ to start at SG. They will need to work it out in camp to find that best fit in the starting lineup. Seems to me they need a defender, cutter and 3pt shooter in the lineup. They have two primary ball handlers in WB and James already.
That being said, I do not see THT in that role. He seems more second unit ball handler then off ball shooter. He needs to keep woking hard on his shooting and defense. But IMO having him in the starting lineup is a waste.
The other thing to consider is the Schroder issue. If they choose to trade him for another player, that unknown player may be the final piece more then anyone currently on the roster. All depends on if , or who they can add. |
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a2j1m Star Player
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Posted: Wed Aug 04, 2021 6:05 am Post subject: |
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To start the season Bazemore will start. He’s KCP replacement and has same type attributes and frame as KCP. We will need a defender but also a guy who can hit a 3 regularly, and our only guard like that is Bazemore. Through the year if THT shot is falling then yeah he will be the starter because I do think he’s our best perimeter defender and has All NBA potential as a defender |
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Halflife Franchise Player
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Posted: Wed Aug 04, 2021 6:17 am Post subject: |
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i dont think so. They probably overpaid a bit to keep and appease him.
our 2nd unit will be really good.
I personally start baze at 2. Apparently we did say he would have a big role for us.
russ
baze
bron
ad
DH
is actually a pretty good defensive squad and baze should get some open 3's
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CamReddish Star Player
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Posted: Wed Aug 04, 2021 6:20 am Post subject: |
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If he takes another major step in development this offseason and has a 3 ball, we might have an all star _________________ Previously LBJ23 |
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Megaton Retired Number
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Posted: Fri Aug 06, 2021 8:49 am Post subject: |
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a2j1m wrote: | To start the season Bazemore will start. He’s KCP replacement and has same type attributes and frame as KCP. We will need a defender but also a guy who can hit a 3 regularly, and our only guard like that is Bazemore. Through the year if THT shot is falling then yeah he will be the starter because I do think he’s our best perimeter defender and has All NBA potential as a defender |
If not THT, I think Wayne Ellington or Malik Monk as a better chance of starting than Bazemore. _________________ Darvin Scam: https://media.tenor.com/images/3c15249955860a4b16b59e8ae035fb75/tenor.gif |
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