Finally finished reading Jeff Pearlman three ring circus. Man, Kobe, just not a good person
please elaborate
His portrayal in the book, dude was just a sadistic selfish dick, I had no idea. I mean back in the days, I read about Shaq and Kobe not getting along or how he guns and not passed but the behind the curtains, the stories from the other players, not good man, not good at all
Finally finished reading Jeff Pearlman three ring circus. Man, Kobe, just not a good person
please elaborate
His portrayal in the book, dude was just a sadistic selfish dick, I had no idea. I mean back in the days, I read about Shaq and Kobe not getting along or how he guns and not passed but the behind the curtains, the stories from the other players, not good man, not good at all
Is this really important for you to post this in this thread? Kobe has shown in so many instances what kind of good person he was with all the make a wish come through and many stories of good thing he had done for people. You didn’t have to be bring some author writing made up stories to sell book. Everyone knows if Kobe didn’t see you giving it all, he didn’t care too much for you. There are also so many stories from former teammates appreciating good things he has done for them and their family.
Let the man Rest In Peace
Finally finished reading Jeff Pearlman three ring circus. Man, Kobe, just not a good person
please elaborate
His portrayal in the book, dude was just a sadistic selfish dick, I had no idea. I mean back in the days, I read about Shaq and Kobe not getting along or how he guns and not passed but the behind the curtains, the stories from the other players, not good man, not good at all
Is this really important for you to post this in this thread? Kobe has shown in so many instances what kind of good person he was with all the make a wish come through and many stories of good thing he had done for people. You didn’t have to be bring some author writing made up stories to sell book. Everyone knows if Kobe didn’t see you giving it all, he didn’t care too much for you. There are also so many stories from former teammates appreciating good things he has done for them and their family.
Let the man Rest In Peace
I guess not, just surprised when reading the book. Mod, feel free to delete
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Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2021 1:03 pm Post subject:
governator wrote:
la4win wrote:
governator wrote:
LakersChamps04 wrote:
governator wrote:
Finally finished reading Jeff Pearlman three ring circus. Man, Kobe, just not a good person
please elaborate
His portrayal in the book, dude was just a sadistic selfish dick, I had no idea. I mean back in the days, I read about Shaq and Kobe not getting along or how he guns and not passed but the behind the curtains, the stories from the other players, not good man, not good at all
Is this really important for you to post this in this thread? Kobe has shown in so many instances what kind of good person he was with all the make a wish come through and many stories of good thing he had done for people. You didn’t have to be bring some author writing made up stories to sell book. Everyone knows if Kobe didn’t see you giving it all, he didn’t care too much for you. There are also so many stories from former teammates appreciating good things he has done for them and their family.
Let the man Rest In Peace
I guess not, just surprised when reading the book. Mod, feel free to delete
So you read somebody's hit piece, you just take their word for it huh?? You don't ask any questions, look at anything in context, just chug the whole bottle of piss down, huh? Everybody isn't going to like you in this world. The ONLY athlete I have known of where there never a cross word spoken of him in life or death is Tony Gwynn. People loved that man. Vanessa got a whole village of people looking after her and her kids because of how much they loved Kobe. But oh... some hating ass journalist says Kobe was a meanie and now your whole view of him is shattered. _________________ So glad we gave you your flowers while you were here, Kobe.
Finally finished reading Jeff Pearlman three ring circus. Man, Kobe, just not a good person
please elaborate
His portrayal in the book, dude was just a sadistic selfish dick, I had no idea. I mean back in the days, I read about Shaq and Kobe not getting along or how he guns and not passed but the behind the curtains, the stories from the other players, not good man, not good at all
Is this really important for you to post this in this thread? Kobe has shown in so many instances what kind of good person he was with all the make a wish come through and many stories of good thing he had done for people. You didn’t have to be bring some author writing made up stories to sell book. Everyone knows if Kobe didn’t see you giving it all, he didn’t care too much for you. There are also so many stories from former teammates appreciating good things he has done for them and their family.
Let the man Rest In Peace
I guess not, just surprised when reading the book. Mod, feel free to delete
So you read somebody's hit piece, you just take their word for it huh?? You don't ask any questions, look at anything in context, just chug the whole bottle of piss down, huh? Everybody isn't going to like you in this world. The ONLY athlete I have known of where there never a cross word spoken of him in life or death is Tony Gwynn. People loved that man. Vanessa got a whole village of people looking after her and her kids because of how much they loved Kobe. But oh... some hating ass journalist says Kobe was a meanie and now your whole view of him is shattered.
How many countless years did we spend vigorously defending him against slanderous hateful vile they spewed his way throughout his entire career? I had enough of it then, and I simply will not tolerate it now with him gone. Period. And it surprises me quite honestly coming from a member here of 15 years with countless amounts of posts. They should know better.
Don’t bring that garbage to this thread, you will get called out _________________ I miss you Kobe. I miss you Gigi.
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Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2021 7:07 pm Post subject:
One of the last and THE LASTING imprint you left on our beloved Lakers is your insistence to Jeanie that Rob Pelinka should be our operations manager. You made sure the Lakers would be left in good hands. Thank you. Love you, Kob. #TheGreatestLakerOFallTIME _________________ The butter's hard and the eggs are chillin' in the dark.
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Posted: Thu Aug 05, 2021 8:52 am Post subject:
THIS should be a basic video for all Lakers wannabes. _________________ Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind.
America will never be destroyed from the outside. If we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves.
When he first entered the NBA, Kobe WAS self-involved, a little tone deaf as to how his brashness would be perceived. He wanted everything fast, but for Jeff Pearlman to focus on only his early years and present his book as some "A-ha!" revelation was disingenuous.
Kobe also LEARNED.
Kobe LISTENED to people like Jerry West and Phil Jackson and Michael Jordan.
Kobe GREW and EVOLVED as a person, as a husband, as a father and as an ambassador to the sport.
He looked back on his own career and talked about lessons he learned along the way.
He was coming into his prime as a giving and generous human being when he died. But the reverence and awe with which he is held by his fellow players and this up and coming generation speaks more to his character than any hit piece by Jeff Pearlman.
I would love to see how some of you were in your late teens/early 20s. I know I look back and I have a lot of regret and feel embarrassed for the person I was. Now imagine going through those same growing pains in the public spotlight. It's weird how people expect Kobe to act like a grown adult when he was a young buck still finding his way in the world.
Joined: 04 May 2017 Posts: 3078 Location: The Left Coast
Posted: Sun Aug 08, 2021 7:18 am Post subject:
GTL wrote:
hoopschick29 wrote:
governator wrote:
la4win wrote:
governator wrote:
LakersChamps04 wrote:
governator wrote:
Finally finished reading Jeff Pearlman three ring circus. Man, Kobe, just not a good person
please elaborate
His portrayal in the book, dude was just a sadistic selfish dick, I had no idea. I mean back in the days, I read about Shaq and Kobe not getting along or how he guns and not passed but the behind the curtains, the stories from the other players, not good man, not good at all
Is this really important for you to post this in this thread? Kobe has shown in so many instances what kind of good person he was with all the make a wish come through and many stories of good thing he had done for people. You didn’t have to be bring some author writing made up stories to sell book. Everyone knows if Kobe didn’t see you giving it all, he didn’t care too much for you. There are also so many stories from former teammates appreciating good things he has done for them and their family.
Let the man Rest In Peace
I guess not, just surprised when reading the book. Mod, feel free to delete
So you read somebody's hit piece, you just take their word for it huh?? You don't ask any questions, look at anything in context, just chug the whole bottle of piss down, huh? Everybody isn't going to like you in this world. The ONLY athlete I have known of where there never a cross word spoken of him in life or death is Tony Gwynn. People loved that man. Vanessa got a whole village of people looking after her and her kids because of how much they loved Kobe. But oh... some hating ass journalist says Kobe was a meanie and now your whole view of him is shattered.
How many countless years did we spend vigorously defending him against slanderous hateful vile they spewed his way throughout his entire career? I had enough of it then, and I simply will not tolerate it now with him gone. Period. And it surprises me quite honestly coming from a member here of 15 years with countless amounts of posts. They should know better.
Don’t bring that garbage to this thread, you will get called out
I cannot stress enough that context and the whole story matters:
On social media, and in an author’s note included in the book, Pearlman pleads with readers not to interpret his work as an opportunistic takedown of Bryant’s legacy. “The Kobe Bryant of 1996 to 2004 is not the Kobe Bryant of 2005 to January 26, 2020,” Pearlman writes. “He was not then the contemplative adult who raved of having four daughters. He was not then the doting husband. He was not then the Academy Award winner. He was not yet comfortable in his own skin.”
This is stuff we KNEW about Kobe Bryant if you’ve been paying attention closely. He may have been self-centered and arrogant early on, but it’s the transformation into what he became is what he is lauded for. How many “meanie” athletes have we seen change like that? On a side note, I love MJ, but it’s baffling that his antics throughout his career is viewed in a different light to most. _________________ “You can't be held captive by the fear of failure or the fear of what people may say.” - Kobe Bryant
Somebody made a thread about this new Lakers book couple months ago about the three-peat, I bought the book, had tons of Lakers coaches/players comment/experiences, didn’t read it til couple weeks ago. Once started I finished it in a day. Almost all the Lakers personnel comments, beside the talent and work ethic, were very negative. It really surprised me
This is Lakersground, decades, the premier online location for Lakers news and content. One of the reasons why this place has been so attractive to Lakers fans is because we unify in our defense of our players. Those with adversarial opinions likely quickly realize that they were on the wrong online message board. And this right here, is the wrong thread for you to sh*t post in.
If you're someone who feels otherwise, don't let the door hit your ass on the way out. _________________ I miss you Kobe. I miss you Gigi.
I literally saw a promo about it just now on Andrew Bernstein‘s Instagram. So I missed it on ABC but it looks like it’s also streaming on Hulu for folks who are interested.
I literally saw a promo about it just now on Andrew Bernstein‘s Instagram. So I missed it on ABC but it looks like it’s also streaming on Hulu for folks who are interested.
I caught the last 30 mins of the program, it was OK for something that was basically 43 minutes without commercials on network TV.
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Posted: Sun Aug 22, 2021 10:38 pm Post subject:
Already the 23rd over here. Watched some of the "aftermath" videos after a longer period of purposely evading anything Kobe related. Just had a feeling I had to watch them on the day that would have been another one of his birthdays. So now I'm sitting in my office and somebody apparently cut a truckload of onions.
I also noticed that one of my favourite mixes is online again. I must have watched it a hundred times, with the move on Ray Allen at 4:43 being my absolute favourite. Flawlessness.
Anyways. Happy birthday, Kobe. Thank you for always giving us your all. Never forgotten.
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