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Best post-Phil Lakers coach? |
Mike Brown |
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Mike D’Antoni |
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Byron Scott |
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Luke Walton |
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Frank Vogel |
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CandyCanes Retired Number


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Posted: Wed Jan 12, 2022 12:38 pm Post subject: Best post-Phil Lakers coach? |
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And how would you rank the remaining four?
I think I would go with D’Antoni… _________________ Damian Lillard shatters Dwight Coward's championship dreams:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SZrbEjppnd4 |
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mad55557777 Franchise Player

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Posted: Wed Jan 12, 2022 12:40 pm Post subject: Re: Best post-Phil Lakers coach? |
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CandyCanes wrote: | And how would you rank the remaining four?
I think I would go with D’Antoni… |
why? because he ran Kobe to the ground? or the amazing 67-87 record? |
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Posted: Wed Jan 12, 2022 12:41 pm Post subject: |
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The guy that won a championship and consistently has top defensive squads.
Byron Scott, Luke Walton, and Mike Brown belong nowhere on this list. |
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Posted: Wed Jan 12, 2022 12:50 pm Post subject: Re: Best post-Phil Lakers coach? |
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CandyCanes wrote: | And how would you rank the remaining four?
I think I would go with D’Antoni… |
Well that's silly of you. It's obviously Vogel. |
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LakersRGolden Star Player

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Posted: Wed Jan 12, 2022 1:29 pm Post subject: |
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Vogel
D'Antoni
Brown
Walton
Used Towel taken from the locker-room shower floor
Byron Scott |
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lakersfever714 Star Player


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Posted: Wed Jan 12, 2022 2:01 pm Post subject: |
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I'm so glad we finally have a competent coach because I'd never want to go thru 2013 again where Jeanie was changing HC like changing clothes. It's not easy to find a good coach especially with our FO full of bright minds. |
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Posted: Wed Jan 12, 2022 2:10 pm Post subject: Re: Best post-Phil Lakers coach? |
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CandyCanes wrote: | And how would you rank the remaining four?
I think I would go with D’Antoni… |
As I did. Then Brown, Vogel, Walton, Scott. _________________ Between the things known, and the things unknown, are the Doors. |
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MJST Franchise Player


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Posted: Wed Jan 12, 2022 2:36 pm Post subject: |
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As a coach and not thinking about the squad? Probably D'Antoni, or Mike Brown.
Vogel wasn't the best coach, he was the one that had the roster to win a Championship. If we gave D'Antoni that roster, he'd have his first chip too.
I look more at what a coach does and their strengths and weaknesses.
I watch what Frank Vogel did with The Magic, and I look at what D'Antoni did with us when we didn't have Kobe, and Gasol's health was up and down. The fact we even won as many games as we did was impressive.
Mike Brown had a FANTASTIC coaching staff with us. Steve Clifford as Defensive Assitant, Ettoire Messina and Quin Snyder as Coaching Assistants. And he was trying to implement Popovich's offense with us (for Bynum and Gasol he was using the offense Popovich ran with Duncan and Robinson). I honestly think had we run that the next season instead of him being talked into running the Princeton Offense by Kobe (because of a wish to return to a triangle-like style). I think if we ran the Spurs twin towers offense with Gasol and Dwight we'd have seen a lot of success. But alas. Brown tried to learn an entire offense and structure a group of coaches around it, so that it'd be more comfortable for Kobe and Gasol. It didn't work out. Had we stuck with the Twin Towers, I think we'd be fine.
But again, Steve Clifford as Defensive Assitant, Ettoire Messina and Quin Snyder as Coaching Assistants. That's a dream team of assistants. If they had the LeBron/AD team, they'd have won a chip too. We almost shut down the Thunder even despite their advantages vs us, we definitely had the right gameplan, just not the firepower and health to hold on.
SO I'd say, let's rank the coaches by what they'd have done with the Championship Roster Vogel had. So LeBron and Davis etc.
1. Mike D'Antoni
2. Mike Brown
3. Frank Vogel
Those would be my Top 3. There only being one above them...
GRANDMASTER ABOVE ALL: Bernie Bickerstaff
The worst, was Byron Scott. _________________ How NBA 2K18 failed the All-Time Lakers:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kxMBYm3wwxk
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mad55557777 Franchise Player

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Posted: Wed Jan 12, 2022 2:37 pm Post subject: Re: Best post-Phil Lakers coach? |
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venturalakersfan wrote: | CandyCanes wrote: | And how would you rank the remaining four?
I think I would go with D’Antoni… |
As I did. Then Brown, Vogel, Walton, Scott. |
1 out of the 10
this either shows you are not a laker fan, or know nothing about basketball |
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Posted: Wed Jan 12, 2022 2:40 pm Post subject: |
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Byron was the worst. |
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Posted: Wed Jan 12, 2022 3:12 pm Post subject: |
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LakersRGolden wrote: | Vogel
D'Antoni
Brown
Walton
Used Towel taken from the locker-room shower floor
Byron Scott |
 _________________ “You can't be held captive by the fear of failure or the fear of what people may say.” - Kobe Bryant |
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mad55557777 Franchise Player

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Posted: Wed Jan 12, 2022 7:14 pm Post subject: |
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MJST wrote: | As a coach and not thinking about the squad? Probably D'Antoni, or Mike Brown.
Vogel wasn't the best coach, he was the one that had the roster to win a Championship. If we gave D'Antoni that roster, he'd have his first chip too.
I look more at what a coach does and their strengths and weaknesses.
I watch what Frank Vogel did with The Magic, and I look at what D'Antoni did with us when we didn't have Kobe, and Gasol's health was up and down. The fact we even won as many games as we did was impressive.
Mike Brown had a FANTASTIC coaching staff with us. Steve Clifford as Defensive Assitant, Ettoire Messina and Quin Snyder as Coaching Assistants. And he was trying to implement Popovich's offense with us (for Bynum and Gasol he was using the offense Popovich ran with Duncan and Robinson). I honestly think had we run that the next season instead of him being talked into running the Princeton Offense by Kobe (because of a wish to return to a triangle-like style). I think if we ran the Spurs twin towers offense with Gasol and Dwight we'd have seen a lot of success. But alas. Brown tried to learn an entire offense and structure a group of coaches around it, so that it'd be more comfortable for Kobe and Gasol. It didn't work out. Had we stuck with the Twin Towers, I think we'd be fine.
But again, Steve Clifford as Defensive Assitant, Ettoire Messina and Quin Snyder as Coaching Assistants. That's a dream team of assistants. If they had the LeBron/AD team, they'd have won a chip too. We almost shut down the Thunder even despite their advantages vs us, we definitely had the right gameplan, just not the firepower and health to hold on.
SO I'd say, let's rank the coaches by what they'd have done with the Championship Roster Vogel had. So LeBron and Davis etc.
1. Mike D'Antoni
2. Mike Brown
3. Frank Vogel
Those would be my Top 3. There only being one above them...
GRANDMASTER ABOVE ALL: Bernie Bickerstaff
The worst, was Byron Scott. |
MDA ran Kobe to the ground himself, and he was the coach when we had Kobe/pau/Dwight/nash/metta, were you mistaken him for someone else? |
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Posted: Wed Jan 12, 2022 9:50 pm Post subject: |
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Byron and Walton were easily the most frustrating.
Walton showed promise at first, but it went downhill quick. His rotations rarely made sense, and his offensive schemes involved chucking up 3 pointers all night long. I think the Kings fired him because he wouldn't play Bagley, who is easily their best big man.
Byron was different in that he never adjusted to the modern game. Dude was playing checkers while everyone played chess. I'll never forget his feud with D'Angelo Russell, and then Russell saying "the writing was on the wall" when they canned him.  _________________ "The weak can never forgive. Forgiveness is the attribute of the strong." — Gandhi |
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Posted: Wed Jan 12, 2022 9:54 pm Post subject: |
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KindCrippler2000 wrote: | Byron and Walton were easily the most frustrating.
Walton showed promise at first, but it went downhill quick. His rotations rarely made sense, and his offensive schemes involved chucking up 3 pointers all night long. I think the Kings fired him because he wouldn't play Bagley, who is easily their best big man.
Byron was different in that he never adjusted to the modern game. Dude was playing checkers while everyone played chess. I'll never forget his feud with D'Angelo Russell, and then Russell saying "the writing was on the wall" when they canned him.  |
How was Byron such a great player with his lack of basketball intelligence? _________________ Damian Lillard shatters Dwight Coward's championship dreams:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SZrbEjppnd4 |
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