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yinoma2001 Retired Number
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Posted: Wed May 25, 2022 9:23 am Post subject: |
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ahaider wrote: | yinoma2001 wrote: |
Everyone just looked at his stats, and when he came under a microscope for once, he completely wilted. Turns out his stats are not meaningful contributions towards winning basketball. And most didn't know how impactful losing KCP/Kuz/22nd/Trezz (and not re-signing AC) would be on this team. |
I felt we were losing Trezz irrespective of Westbrook trade. Frank botched that one pretty good. He managed to piss off all 3 centers.
22nd pick was the toughest as we could have had Herb Jones & AC. |
Imagine if we had a 9-10m expiring deal (Trezz) to send with a 1st (if we had to)? We could get something decent back.
Wouldn't it have been nice to have KCP/AC back, and Kuz to fill in as a starter when LBJ/AD got injured?
We just royally messed it up with Russ, and we can't even evaluate the full consequences of this trade until we know what it will cost us to dump him (or if we keep him, we're pissing away another season). _________________ From 2-10 to the Western Conference Finals |
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venturalakersfan Retired Number
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Posted: Wed May 25, 2022 9:28 am Post subject: |
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Expect to see Russ in a Laker uniform on opening night. _________________ RIP mom. 11-21-1933 to 6-14-2023. |
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yinoma2001 Retired Number
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Posted: Wed May 25, 2022 10:06 am Post subject: |
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venturalakersfan wrote: | Expect to see Russ in a Laker uniform on opening night. |
I think Lakers are negotiating through the media right now, trying to lower the 1st round price b/c that was the price last season, when Russ had 2 years on his deal.
I think that it's 70/30 in favor of Russ eventually being traded. Seems like things were really bad behind the scenes with him, and he isn't the type to change his game up either. Why saddle a new coach with Russ? _________________ From 2-10 to the Western Conference Finals |
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JUST-MING Retired Number
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Posted: Wed May 25, 2022 10:09 am Post subject: |
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So which media writer is Jeanie's mouth piece? It used to be Kevin Ding.
Is it that guy from the Atlantic? Jovan Buha? |
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yinoma2001 Retired Number
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Posted: Wed May 25, 2022 10:16 am Post subject: |
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JUST-MING wrote: | So which media writer is Jeanie's mouth piece? It used to be Kevin Ding.
Is it that guy from the Atlantic? Jovan Buha? |
Mouth piece? Buha is not that at all.
Can't find one pro-Russ/Lakers piece out there, b/c the proof is in the pudding. We all witnessed the calamity and the numbers don't lie too. _________________ From 2-10 to the Western Conference Finals |
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JUST-MING Retired Number
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Posted: Wed May 25, 2022 10:30 am Post subject: |
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What are you basing your theory on the Lakers negotiating through the media? |
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yinoma2001 Retired Number
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Posted: Wed May 25, 2022 10:35 am Post subject: |
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JUST-MING wrote: | What are you basing your theory on the Lakers negotiating through the media? |
Last year, the minimum price had to include a Lakers 1st.
So why should the price still be the same now that 1 year is off Russ's ridiculous deal?
Therefore, of course they will plant it to make it appear that they can "live" with Russ coming back so that some sucker team will not think that the Lakers are desperate to unload Russ. _________________ From 2-10 to the Western Conference Finals |
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Posted: Wed May 25, 2022 12:33 pm Post subject: |
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yinoma2001 wrote: | JUST-MING wrote: | What are you basing your theory on the Lakers negotiating through the media? |
Last year, the minimum price had to include a Lakers 1st.
So why should the price still be the same now that 1 year is off Russ's ridiculous deal?
Therefore, of course they will plant it to make it appear that they can "live" with Russ coming back so that some sucker team will not think that the Lakers are desperate to unload Russ. |
Had to include a lakers 1st? I disagree with that. I put the incompetence of rob pelinka for that |
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JUST-MING Retired Number
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Posted: Wed May 25, 2022 12:33 pm Post subject: |
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Oh, I thought you would write something like "bad press is still press, getting his name out there, garner trade interest" or something like that. |
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Posted: Wed May 25, 2022 12:40 pm Post subject: |
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Dennis100mtrash wrote: |
Had to include a lakers 1st? I disagree with that. I put the incompetence of rob pelinka for that |
Need a trade partner? Detroit, New York, will cost you a first round pick.
Need a head coach? Nick Nurse will cost you a first round pick.
Need a general manager? Sam Presti will cost you a first round pick.
It's a meme at this point, the Lakers first round pick could end war in Ukraine. |
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Posted: Wed May 25, 2022 3:28 pm Post subject: |
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JUST-MING wrote: | Dennis100mtrash wrote: |
Had to include a lakers 1st? I disagree with that. I put the incompetence of rob pelinka for that |
Need a trade partner? Detroit, New York, will cost you a first round pick.
Need a head coach? Nick Nurse will cost you a first round pick.
Need a general manager? Sam Presti will cost you a first round pick.
It's a meme at this point, the Lakers first round pick could end war in Ukraine. |
One year of Dennis Schroeder on an expiring? Have a first round pick!
$87 million worth of declining Russell Westbrook, with multiple reports around the league being teams would *demand* *multiple* firsts to take him off Washington's hands? Have a first round pick!
We're the only team making you an offer for an expiring Anthony Davis, who has made clear to the entire NBA he will only wear a Laker uniform? Take all the firsts you possibly can!
It's a meme at this point because it's the most freely dispensed asset in the league. Hell even Chipotle charges you extra for guac. With a Laker first, all you have to do is ask. |
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epic_ Franchise Player
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Posted: Wed May 25, 2022 4:03 pm Post subject: |
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Quote: | Mark Medina
@MarkG_Medina
Terry Stotts is intrigued with potentially coaching Russell Westbrook and believes he can help him be more effective and comfortable with his role than he was last season |
I believe that. But by how much of an improvement? _________________ 💜💛 🏆 👀 🍖 #18!!! |
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governator Franchise Player
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Posted: Wed May 25, 2022 4:30 pm Post subject: |
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epic_ wrote: | Quote: | Mark Medina
@MarkG_Medina
Terry Stotts is intrigued with potentially coaching Russell Westbrook and believes he can help him be more effective and comfortable with his role than he was last season |
I believe that. But by how much of an improvement? |
Terry to Russ: imagine you Dame $, Bron gonna be ur McCollum and AD be ur Nurkic (aka I’ll take the 2 yr deal)
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yinoma2001 Retired Number
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Posted: Wed May 25, 2022 4:48 pm Post subject: |
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epic_ wrote: | Quote: | Mark Medina
@MarkG_Medina
Terry Stotts is intrigued with potentially coaching Russell Westbrook and believes he can help him be more effective and comfortable with his role than he was last season |
I believe that. But by how much of an improvement? |
LOL. Stotts saying what he can to get a gig. He’s had elite shooters in Dame/CJ and then he thinks he can fix Russ? _________________ From 2-10 to the Western Conference Finals |
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pjiddy Retired Number
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Posted: Wed May 25, 2022 4:51 pm Post subject: |
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Quote: | Mark Medina
@MarkG_Medina
Terry Stotts is intrigued with potentially coaching Russell Westbrook and believes he can help him be more effective and comfortable with his role than he was last season |
So it begins.... |
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epic_ Franchise Player
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Posted: Wed May 25, 2022 5:06 pm Post subject: |
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governator wrote: | epic_ wrote: | Quote: | Mark Medina
@MarkG_Medina
Terry Stotts is intrigued with potentially coaching Russell Westbrook and believes he can help him be more effective and comfortable with his role than he was last season |
I believe that. But by how much of an improvement? |
Terry to Russ: imagine you Dame $, Bron gonna be ur McCollum and AD be ur Nurkic (aka I’ll take the 2 yr deal) |
Rus gonna shoot 200 3s next year. _________________ 💜💛 🏆 👀 🍖 #18!!! |
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governator Franchise Player
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Posted: Wed May 25, 2022 5:48 pm Post subject: |
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epic_ wrote: | governator wrote: | epic_ wrote: | Quote: | Mark Medina
@MarkG_Medina
Terry Stotts is intrigued with potentially coaching Russell Westbrook and believes he can help him be more effective and comfortable with his role than he was last season |
I believe that. But by how much of an improvement? |
Terry to Russ: imagine you Dame $, Bron gonna be ur McCollum and AD be ur Nurkic (aka I’ll take the 2 yr deal) |
Rus gonna shoot 200 3s next year. |
Honestly, as long as he fall in line in the playoff, we healthy and we sign some good complements, let Russ go crazy in RS |
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Posted: Wed May 25, 2022 7:28 pm Post subject: |
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I am watching the Sparks post-game show and they just showed Russell Westbrook was in attendance and he gave Derek Fisher a big hug.
EDIT - oh. I guess that was the halftime not the post game show. Ankywhoo on a positive note the Sparks are ahead right now.
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TDRock Retired Number
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Posted: Wed May 25, 2022 7:53 pm Post subject: |
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I bet he would like to go to the Warriors, Bucks, or Heat
Particularly Warriors or Bucks = |
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Laker_Jocker Star Player
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Posted: Wed May 25, 2022 8:10 pm Post subject: |
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TDRock wrote: |
I bet he would like to go to the Warriors, Bucks, or Heat
Particularly Warriors or Bucks = |
Is that real? If so, he can go to any of those teams easily in August….
“Just Opt Out” (can we get a billboard, Jeanie?) 😁 |
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anth2000 Franchise Player
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Posted: Wed May 25, 2022 9:00 pm Post subject: |
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Laker_Jocker wrote: | TDRock wrote: |
I bet he would like to go to the Warriors, Bucks, or Heat
Particularly Warriors or Bucks = |
Is that real? If so, he can go to any of those teams easily in August….
“Just Opt Out” (can we get a billboard, Jeanie?) 😁 |
You guys are gullible. This isn’t real. Look at the twitter account? Hoooooopcentral?
Duh.
Move on….just a click post. No one else is posting this.
It’s like that Ballsack account - they just post BS for clicks. |
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TDRock Retired Number
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Posted: Wed May 25, 2022 9:24 pm Post subject: |
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anth2000 wrote: | Laker_Jocker wrote: | TDRock wrote: |
I bet he would like to go to the Warriors, Bucks, or Heat
Particularly Warriors or Bucks = |
Is that real? If so, he can go to any of those teams easily in August….
“Just Opt Out” (can we get a billboard, Jeanie?) 😁 |
You guys are gullible. This isn’t real. Look at the twitter account? Hoooooopcentral?
Duh.
Move on….just a click post. No one else is posting this.
It’s like that Ballsack account - they just post BS for clicks. |
I would think people can figure out what is going on. LakerSD did clearly write "#sauces"
(P.S. - Sparks win!) |
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epic_ Franchise Player
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Posted: Wed May 25, 2022 9:29 pm Post subject: |
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TDRock wrote: | anth2000 wrote: | Laker_Jocker wrote: | TDRock wrote: |
I bet he would like to go to the Warriors, Bucks, or Heat
Particularly Warriors or Bucks = |
Is that real? If so, he can go to any of those teams easily in August….
“Just Opt Out” (can we get a billboard, Jeanie?) 😁 |
You guys are gullible. This isn’t real. Look at the twitter account? Hoooooopcentral?
Duh.
Move on….just a click post. No one else is posting this.
It’s like that Ballsack account - they just post BS for clicks. |
I would think people can figure out what is going on. LakerSD did clearly write "#sauces"
(P.S. - Sparks win!) |
It's the attack of the triple Os in hooops! _________________ 💜💛 🏆 👀 🍖 #18!!! |
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ContagiousInspiration Franchise Player
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Posted: Thu May 26, 2022 12:42 pm Post subject: |
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Shoiuldn't a coach talking about keeping Westbrick be out of consideration immediately
I am not watching the Lakers if they keep Westbrook |
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