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Car54 Franchise Player
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Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2022 3:58 pm Post subject: I know Defense was an issue but do we bring back any of these guys? |
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3 pt shooting is must so do we bring back any of these guys
Monk
Melo
Bazemore
Ellington _________________ Coach Vogel, Kidd, Hollins
Max slot : Kawhi |
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ocho Retired Number
Joined: 24 May 2005 Posts: 53713
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Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2022 3:59 pm Post subject: |
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I don’t think it’s smart to bring any of those guys back. _________________ 14-5-3-12 |
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JUST-MING Retired Number
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epic_ Franchise Player
Joined: 23 Jan 2020 Posts: 11310
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Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2022 4:16 pm Post subject: |
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Monk: Not for the MLE. I actually think he played well offensively because he got minutes. With a healthy squad and his minutes lower cuz of his lack of defense, I don't think his numbers will be as good looking.
Melo: For the vet min, but he should never play center and never next to Lebron as the 2 bigs.
Bazemore: Naw.
Ellington: Naw. _________________ 💜💛 🏆 👀 🍖 #18!!! |
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Car54 Franchise Player
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Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2022 4:36 pm Post subject: |
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how the hell do we rank 4th in shooting and had a offense ranked 24? lol damn we were bad _________________ Coach Vogel, Kidd, Hollins
Max slot : Kawhi |
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ocho Retired Number
Joined: 24 May 2005 Posts: 53713
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Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2022 4:42 pm Post subject: |
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Car54 wrote: |
how the hell do we rank 4th in shooting and had a offense ranked 24? lol damn we were bad |
That was after 6 games. For the season we ranked 22nd in team 3p%. _________________ 14-5-3-12 |
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epic_ Franchise Player
Joined: 23 Jan 2020 Posts: 11310
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Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2022 4:46 pm Post subject: |
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Car54 wrote: |
how the hell do we rank 4th in shooting and had a offense ranked 24? lol damn we were bad |
We were 4th in shooting?
Lakers were:
8th in FG%
22nd in 3FG%
29th in FT%
17th in TS%
22nd in ORTG _________________ 💜💛 🏆 👀 🍖 #18!!! |
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Car54 Franchise Player
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Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2022 4:49 pm Post subject: |
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epic_ wrote: | Car54 wrote: |
how the hell do we rank 4th in shooting and had a offense ranked 24? lol damn we were bad |
We were 4th in shooting?
Lakers were:
8th in FG%
22nd in 3FG%
29th in FT%
17th in TS%
22nd in ORTG |
that thread had us at 4th in 3pt shooting _________________ Coach Vogel, Kidd, Hollins
Max slot : Kawhi |
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yinoma2001 Retired Number
Joined: 19 Jun 2010 Posts: 119487
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Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2022 4:52 pm Post subject: |
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Car54 wrote: | epic_ wrote: | Car54 wrote: |
how the hell do we rank 4th in shooting and had a offense ranked 24? lol damn we were bad |
We were 4th in shooting?
Lakers were:
8th in FG%
22nd in 3FG%
29th in FT%
17th in TS%
22nd in ORTG |
that thread had us at 4th in 3pt shooting |
That was 6 games in. _________________ From 2-10 to the Western Conference Finals |
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Car54 Franchise Player
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Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2022 4:56 pm Post subject: |
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yinoma2001 wrote: | Car54 wrote: | epic_ wrote: | Car54 wrote: |
how the hell do we rank 4th in shooting and had a offense ranked 24? lol damn we were bad |
We were 4th in shooting?
Lakers were:
8th in FG%
22nd in 3FG%
29th in FT%
17th in TS%
22nd in ORTG |
that thread had us at 4th in 3pt shooting |
That was 6 games in. |
oh ok _________________ Coach Vogel, Kidd, Hollins
Max slot : Kawhi |
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AD23 Star Player
Joined: 15 Jul 2019 Posts: 3069
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Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2022 5:16 pm Post subject: |
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Nope.
We bringing back Stanley and Gabriel |
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tony smith Star Player
Joined: 23 Jun 2005 Posts: 1960 Location: West LA
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Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2022 6:01 pm Post subject: |
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I still believe Baze didn't get enough of a chance. I would bring him back and let Ham work to utilize him correctly and give him a legit change.
And I want Monk back, but we need a legit wing. Would rather use what little bit of cap we have toward that. Hoping we can get some semblance of wing depth back in a Russ trade. That's my prayer at least.
Tough times for sure.
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slavavov Star Player
Joined: 03 Oct 2003 Posts: 8288 Location: Santa Monica
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Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2022 6:01 pm Post subject: |
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Monk is important to keep because he is a major spark plug off the bench, a great 3-point shooter and a great finisher on the fast break.
Not everyone needs to be an above-average defender. We also need to improve a lot on offense, and offense and defense are equally important.
Melo definitely needs to go though. |
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venturalakersfan Retired Number
Joined: 14 Apr 2001 Posts: 144432 Location: The Gold Coast
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Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2022 6:44 pm Post subject: |
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I will be fine if none return _________________ RIP mom. 11-21-1933 to 6-14-2023. |
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gng930 Franchise Player
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Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2022 7:01 pm Post subject: |
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Melo for the minimum (or 120% raise from last year) playing ~15 minutes a night is pretty much the only one I'd go with. Monk with the MLE would be a luxury and we have bigger needs. Baze and Ellington are end of the bench guys and I think we learned from last year that we're better off stashing younger players with higher ceilings there. _________________ Luxury Tax/FA Spreadsheet (Save to your Google Drive to edit) |
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JamezAmp Star Player
Joined: 25 Jun 2005 Posts: 1785 Location: Scottsdale, AZ
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Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2022 7:15 pm Post subject: |
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Pass _________________ 824 |
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LakersMD Star Player
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Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2022 10:40 pm Post subject: |
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If the Lakers are serious about getting to the playoffs and contending, they might be able to afford to give minutes to one negative defender at most. As much as he sucked last year I’d rather bring Bazemore back at the minimum than any of the others at their projected market value, just based on the fact that he has a pulse defensively on the wing. But I wouldn’t care if none of them returned. |
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lakeshowtacular Starting Rotation
Joined: 22 Jul 2010 Posts: 699
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Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2022 11:47 pm Post subject: |
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Monk should not be prioritized unless it's the MLE, which he played himself out of for sure.
Melo, only if Monk is gone because I am 100% in agreement with LakersMD that we can only afford 1 negative defender and that eliminates the other 2.
If Monk and Melo bolt, I take Bazemore as the consolation prize at the min because he is slightly better than Ellington on D.
If none of them return, I don't think that is why were not winning a ring next year. _________________ Magic*Kobe*LBJ*AD*Cap |
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jonnybravo Retired Number
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Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2022 11:55 pm Post subject: |
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ocho wrote: | I don’t think it’s smart to bring any of those guys back. |
_________________ KOBE |
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governator Franchise Player
Joined: 28 Jan 2006 Posts: 24995
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Posted: Wed Jun 15, 2022 6:15 am Post subject: |
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I’d bring back Monk and Melo but not for defense lol, they’re that 2nd unit microwaves. Dwight too but he’s the back up, maybe 3rd string big… on a min, that’s ok.
Can a mMLE and 6mins get this:
Westbrook-THT-Bonga
Nunn-Monk-Reaves
LeBron-Stanley-Melo
AD-Markieff-Wenyen
Demarcus/R.Lopez-T.Bryant-Dwight |
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