Is Russell Westbrook the Missing Piece to Knicks-Jazz Donovan Mitchell Trade?

 
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 31, 2022 11:20 am    Post subject: Is Russell Westbrook the Missing Piece to Knicks-Jazz Donovan Mitchell Trade?

Hey All,

Latest @BleacherReport Is Russell Westbrook the Missing Piece to Knicks-Jazz Donovan Mitchell Trade?
https://bleacherreport.com/articles/10047205-russell-westbrook-lakers-the-missing-pieces-to-knicks-jazz-donovan-mitchell-trade

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 31, 2022 8:02 pm    Post subject:

This sounds like a a lot of maybe and no picks for the Lakers the next 500 years...
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 01, 2022 1:05 pm    Post subject:

This didn't age well.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 01, 2022 6:48 pm    Post subject:

LMAO - but it's still worth monitoring as Russ may end up in Utah before long
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 01, 2022 6:49 pm    Post subject:

Other notes:

Latest @BleacherReport NBA Insiders: New York Knicks 'Whiffed on a Softball' in Donovan Mitchell Trade Talks https://bleacherreport.com/articles/10047449-nba-insiders-new-york-knicks-whiffed-on-a-softball-in-donovan-mitchell-trade-talks
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 01, 2022 6:53 pm    Post subject:

once again you're off base.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 01, 2022 7:08 pm    Post subject:

cycl0nus wrote:
once again you're off base.


If you look at what was said a couple of days ago, it was reported that the Cavs were moving on from the Mitchell pursuit and today all of a sudden they came out of no where and got a deal done.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 01, 2022 7:14 pm    Post subject:

cycl0nus wrote:
once again you're off base.


Lol damn drop the haterade.

The jazz chose the Cavs package out of nowhere.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 01, 2022 8:22 pm    Post subject:

Womp womp
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 01, 2022 9:11 pm    Post subject:

Danny Ainge is building a future, long-term powerhouse in Utah, using the opposite approach of the Lakers. Look at all these first round draft picks over the next 7 years.

2023 first-round pick — own
2023 first-round pick — from HOU, BKN or PHI*
2023 first-round pick — from MIN (unprotected)
2024 first-round pick — owed to OKC
2025 first-round pick — own
2025 first-round pick — from MIN (unprotected)
2025 first-round pick — from CLE (unprotected)
2026 first-round pick — own (swap with MIN**)
2027 first-round pick — own
2027 first-round pick — from MIN (unprotected)
2027 first-round pick — from CLE (unprotected)
2028 first-round pick — own
2029 first-round pick — own
2029 first-round pick — from MIN (unprotected)
2029 first-round pick — from CLE (unprotected)
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 02, 2022 12:27 am    Post subject:

JamaalWilkes wrote:
Danny Ainge is building a future, long-term powerhouse in Utah, using the opposite approach of the Lakers. Look at all these first round draft picks over the next 7 years.

2023 first-round pick — own
2023 first-round pick — from HOU, BKN or PHI*
2023 first-round pick — from MIN (unprotected)
2024 first-round pick — owed to OKC
2025 first-round pick — own
2025 first-round pick — from MIN (unprotected)
2025 first-round pick — from CLE (unprotected)
2026 first-round pick — own (swap with MIN**)
2027 first-round pick — own
2027 first-round pick — from MIN (unprotected)
2027 first-round pick — from CLE (unprotected)
2028 first-round pick — own
2029 first-round pick — own
2029 first-round pick — from MIN (unprotected)
2029 first-round pick — from CLE (unprotected)


What powerhouse? A powerhouse of picks perhaps. Do you recall any championships in Utah's history? If there were, then I'd be worried. This is a franchise and location that wins chips, and now they have all these assets. But they're not. Some teams just build and build and build forever, this is one of those teams. With all those picks, maybe, just maybe they'll land another one as good as Donovan Mitchell. Rinse, repeat.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 02, 2022 5:41 am    Post subject:

JamaalWilkes wrote:
Danny Ainge is building a future, long-term powerhouse in Utah, using the opposite approach of the Lakers. Look at all these first round draft picks over the next 7 years.

2023 first-round pick — own
2023 first-round pick — from HOU, BKN or PHI*
2023 first-round pick — from MIN (unprotected)
2024 first-round pick — owed to OKC
2025 first-round pick — own
2025 first-round pick — from MIN (unprotected)
2025 first-round pick — from CLE (unprotected)
2026 first-round pick — own (swap with MIN**)
2027 first-round pick — own
2027 first-round pick — from MIN (unprotected)
2027 first-round pick — from CLE (unprotected)
2028 first-round pick — own
2029 first-round pick — own
2029 first-round pick — from MIN (unprotected)
2029 first-round pick — from CLE (unprotected)


He's building a tank fest. The NBA version of a hoarder.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 02, 2022 8:36 am    Post subject:

defense wrote:
JamaalWilkes wrote:
Danny Ainge is building a future, long-term powerhouse in Utah, using the opposite approach of the Lakers. Look at all these first round draft picks over the next 7 years.

2023 first-round pick — own
2023 first-round pick — from HOU, BKN or PHI*
2023 first-round pick — from MIN (unprotected)
2024 first-round pick — owed to OKC
2025 first-round pick — own
2025 first-round pick — from MIN (unprotected)
2025 first-round pick — from CLE (unprotected)
2026 first-round pick — own (swap with MIN**)
2027 first-round pick — own
2027 first-round pick — from MIN (unprotected)
2027 first-round pick — from CLE (unprotected)
2028 first-round pick — own
2029 first-round pick — own
2029 first-round pick — from MIN (unprotected)
2029 first-round pick — from CLE (unprotected)


He's building a tank fest. The NBA version of a hoarder.


I guess we place a different value on first round draft picks. Notice how the Lakers are not in a hurry to give away theirs anymore. They are valuable assets.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 02, 2022 10:58 am    Post subject:

Runway8 wrote:
What powerhouse? A powerhouse of picks perhaps. Do you recall any championships in Utah's history?


Do you recall the Jazz ever having this many picks before and going this route?
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 02, 2022 11:24 am    Post subject:

What has OKC won with all of their picks?

The answer would be nothing.

At some point a team needs to win.

Did Utah do the right thing in unloading those two guys? Yes, certainly. They weren’t winning anything with those players. So some markets need to tank in order to be successful? Yes, they do… because they can’t attract free agents.

Are the Lakers different? Certainly, yes. The Lakers have never “tanked” except for a few years after the NBA nuked the franchise by rescinding the Paul trade after it was leaked to the public.. along with the Steve Nash debacle.

So I guess my point is.. I understand what Utah and OKC are doing. They are very different from the Lakers… but the tank fest has not worked out for the so called genius Presti, as they just keep losing year after year.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 02, 2022 11:42 am    Post subject:

Reds622 wrote:
What has OKC won with all of their picks?

The answer would be nothing.


What a stupid question with an even more stupid answer. Because that question hasn’t even been answered yet, not even close. We won’t know until another 5 or so years from now.

And the last time they tanked hard, they got 3 future mvps out of it. And could have kept them all if their owner wasn’t so cheep. So I’d say they are pretty good at this whole tanking/using draft picks thing.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 02, 2022 1:23 pm    Post subject:

Lakesh0wtime wrote:
cycl0nus wrote:
once again you're off base.


Lol damn drop the haterade.

The jazz chose the Cavs package out of nowhere.


aint no haterade. dude's info is always off. calling it out so what
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 02, 2022 1:35 pm    Post subject:

Megaton wrote:
Reds622 wrote:
What has OKC won with all of their picks?

The answer would be nothing.


What a stupid question with an even more stupid answer. Because that question hasn’t even been answered yet, not even close. We won’t know until another 5 or so years from now.

And the last time they tanked hard, they got 3 future mvps out of it. And could have kept them all if their owner wasn’t so cheep. So I’d say they are pretty good at this whole tanking/using draft picks thing.


It’s not in the best interest of the Lakers to tank… when they can attract free agents.

OKC hasn’t won anything. All they do is lose. Must be nice to advocate for a position that never requires any actual results.

Let’s lay off using the word stupid in posts, dummy.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 02, 2022 1:54 pm    Post subject:

Latest @SportsBizClass SBC Practicum: Mock LA Lakers Send Russell Westbrook to the Utah Jazz featuring @kaminskyskittle - for reference, our mock Lakers came in 3rd place out of 16 https://www.sportsbusinessclassroom.com/sbc-practicum-mock-la-lakers-send-russell-westbrook-to-the-utah-jazz/
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 02, 2022 6:16 pm    Post subject:

Reds622 wrote:
Megaton wrote:
Reds622 wrote:
What has OKC won with all of their picks?

The answer would be nothing.


What a stupid question with an even more stupid answer. Because that question hasn’t even been answered yet, not even close. We won’t know until another 5 or so years from now.

And the last time they tanked hard, they got 3 future mvps out of it. And could have kept them all if their owner wasn’t so cheep. So I’d say they are pretty good at this whole tanking/using draft picks thing.


It’s not in the best interest of the Lakers to tank… when they can attract free agents.

OKC hasn’t won anything. All they do is lose. Must be nice to advocate for a position that never requires any actual results.

Let’s lay off using the word stupid in posts, dummy.


The Lakers have signed two star FAs in 26 years. They used to draft well and make good trades.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 05, 2022 11:32 am    Post subject:

Lakers still draft well - they just don't draft often because they trade their picks left and right, lol
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 05, 2022 12:01 pm    Post subject:

venturalakersfan wrote:
Reds622 wrote:
Megaton wrote:
Reds622 wrote:
What has OKC won with all of their picks?

The answer would be nothing.


What a stupid question with an even more stupid answer. Because that question hasn’t even been answered yet, not even close. We won’t know until another 5 or so years from now.

And the last time they tanked hard, they got 3 future mvps out of it. And could have kept them all if their owner wasn’t so cheep. So I’d say they are pretty good at this whole tanking/using draft picks thing.


It’s not in the best interest of the Lakers to tank… when they can attract free agents.

OKC hasn’t won anything. All they do is lose. Must be nice to advocate for a position that never requires any actual results.

Let’s lay off using the word stupid in posts, dummy.


The Lakers have signed two star FAs in 26 years. They used to draft well and make good trades.


They signed Shaq and Lebron… two pretty good signings.

I do agree they have also relied on key trades at important times… often for players who want to play in Los Angeles. They’ve obviously drafted well with Kobe, Magic..

But those days are long gone. Times have changed now. “Drafting well” often now means tanking (at least for the superstar type talents). You can pick up rotational players… MAYBE a star if your lucky with a later pick, most often though, your looking at support players. Scouting is too good, teams are afraid to move picks, and players can no longer dictate where they want to be drafted.
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