AN ORAL HISTORY OF LAKERS-KINGS, 2002 WCF
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PostPosted: Thu May 08, 2014 2:06 pm    Post subject:

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TRULY the best years. One Robert Horry 3 away from likely 4PEAT in 2003. Can't have em all i suppose.

Aww, thanks "Debbie Downer".


I had to go re-watch that. Do you think Kobe could have drawn that foul on Bowen when he got him in the air?
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PostPosted: Thu May 08, 2014 2:45 pm    Post subject:

What a great read.
I've always liked Vlade Divac, the best center to wear #12 in Lakers history.
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PostPosted: Thu May 08, 2014 2:51 pm    Post subject:

I still remember laughing when Peja missed that 3 in game 7. And then laughing hysterically when Christie shot a brick so hard I could feel it in rancho cucamonga. I knew we had them and the queens were too nervous to really play
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PostPosted: Thu May 08, 2014 3:29 pm    Post subject:

Potato-Mania wrote:
gblews wrote:
where24happens wrote:
TRULY the best years. One Robert Horry 3 away from likely 4PEAT in 2003. Can't have em all i suppose.

Aww, thanks "Debbie Downer".


I had to go re-watch that. Do you think Kobe could have drawn that foul on Bowen when he got him in the air?


Easily. That was something that always irked me. Bowen was put in popcorn machine and had nowhere else to land. Kobe would've gotten 3 free-throws to win that sucker.

But hindsight's 20/20, I guess. In the heat of the moment, if you see Horry standing wide-open behind the three-point line for a shot to win the game, that's a pretty good option.
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Potato-Mania wrote:
gblews wrote:
where24happens wrote:
TRULY the best years. One Robert Horry 3 away from likely 4PEAT in 2003. Can't have em all i suppose.

Aww, thanks "Debbie Downer".


I had to go re-watch that. Do you think Kobe could have drawn that foul on Bowen when he got him in the air?


Easily. That was something that always irked me. Bowen was put in popcorn machine and had nowhere else to land. Kobe would've gotten 3 free-throws to win that sucker.

But hindsight's 20/20, I guess. In the heat of the moment, if you see Horry standing wide-open behind the three-point line for a shot to win the game, that's a pretty good option.


First time Kobe's been criticized for passing up a shot j/k
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PostPosted: Thu May 08, 2014 3:50 pm    Post subject:

That was a great read! And as those guys mentioned / stressed: everyone talks about the screw job that favored the Lakers in Game 6 but Game 5 barely gets any talk anywhere.
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PostPosted: Thu May 08, 2014 4:08 pm    Post subject:

Awesome read
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PostPosted: Thu May 08, 2014 4:08 pm    Post subject:

The Kings, should blame no one but themselves, the series choke-job is probably gonna haunt them for the next 20 years unless they get some great player from the draft.
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K0BEE 2.0 wrote:
The Kings, should blame no one but themselves, the series choke-job is probably gonna haunt them for the next 20 years unless they get some great player from the draft.


Especially for a small market team, getting that type of talent to come to their market is tough. Other than the Spurs which have a great management team, it is very hard to build a winner in a small market.
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PostPosted: Thu May 08, 2014 6:31 pm    Post subject:

where24happens wrote:
TRULY the best years. One Robert Horry 3 away from likely 4PEAT in 2003. Can't have em all i suppose.


And if the don't take Detroit lightly and Malone doesn't get hurt it's 5 in a row
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First time Kobe's been criticized for passing up a shot j/k
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PostPosted: Fri May 09, 2014 12:32 am    Post subject:

where24happens wrote:
TRULY the best years. One Robert Horry 3 away from likely 4PEAT in 2003. Can't have em all i suppose.


I was working at a computer lab at my university at that time, and I was scheduled to work during that game. Since this was a time before streaming, I had to refresh the gamecast on espn.com or something to follow what was going on. The Lakers were making a comeback, and I was finally able to leave, so I ran across campus to the main cafeteria where I knew the game would be on. As I entered it, it was the exact moment Horry attempted his shot and that was the only footage of the game I saw. I screamed like a lunatic. I knew it was over, even though we had another game at home. The Dynasty was over.
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PostPosted: Fri May 09, 2014 6:51 am    Post subject:

Watching the replay of Horry's shot...I only noticed now, for the first time, that Kobe looks at the ball, watches it fly over his head, and even before it gets to the basket, he knows it's good.

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PostPosted: Fri May 09, 2014 7:06 am    Post subject:

TERRIFIC read.

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PostPosted: Fri May 09, 2014 7:14 am    Post subject:

danzag wrote:
What a great read.
I've always liked Vlade Divac, the best center to wear #12 in Lakers history.


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PostPosted: Fri May 09, 2014 8:48 am    Post subject:

Haha. Interesting point by Jerry Reynolds on the Horry 3 game-winner.

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I still say it’s a very poor play by Horry because the Lakers were down two … here’s their power forward standing 25 feet away from the basket. His butt should have been on the boards. What’s he doing? Protecting the backcourt?
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PostPosted: Fri May 09, 2014 9:08 am    Post subject:

gus26 wrote:
where24happens wrote:
TRULY the best years. One Robert Horry 3 away from likely 4PEAT in 2003. Can't have em all i suppose.


And if the don't take Detroit lightly and Malone doesn't get hurt it's 5 in a row


And if Shaq and Kobe weren't big babies it might have even been more.
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PostPosted: Fri May 09, 2014 9:18 am    Post subject:

venturalakersfan wrote:
gus26 wrote:
where24happens wrote:
TRULY the best years. One Robert Horry 3 away from likely 4PEAT in 2003. Can't have em all i suppose.


And if the don't take Detroit lightly and Malone doesn't get hurt it's 5 in a row


And if Shaq and Kobe weren't big babies it might have even been more.


And if Perkins doesn't get hurt, we might have had one less in 2010. =(
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PostPosted: Fri May 09, 2014 10:39 am    Post subject:

ringfinger wrote:
venturalakersfan wrote:
gus26 wrote:
where24happens wrote:
TRULY the best years. One Robert Horry 3 away from likely 4PEAT in 2003. Can't have em all i suppose.


And if the don't take Detroit lightly and Malone doesn't get hurt it's 5 in a row


And if Shaq and Kobe weren't big babies it might have even been more.


And if Perkins doesn't get hurt, we might have had one less in 2010. =(


Just to point out, if Perkins/Garnett were not allowed to set moving screens ALL THE TIME, the Celtics don't even have a chance.

Yes, I'm still holding a grudge about the 2008 Championship, treating Leon Powe like he was Lebron or something.
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PostPosted: Fri May 09, 2014 6:28 pm    Post subject:

gill2k wrote:
That was a great read! And as those guys mentioned / stressed: everyone talks about the screw job that favored the Lakers in Game 6 but Game 5 barely gets any talk anywhere.


Game 5 was far far worse than Game 6. There were five blatantly wrong calls at the end of Game 5 that ALL went against the Lakers and clearly decided the game, incorrectly.

But the game in that series that was the most blatantly fixed by the refs from start to finish was Game 2. That is the game everyone forgets about, it was the infamous Shaq "offensive foul" game when he literally fouled out on six offensive fouls, not a single one of which was a legitimate call. It got to the point where Vlade was flopping to the ground prior to any contact at all and still getting the call.

That was arguably the single worst job of officiating I have ever seen....until the 2004 Finals happened of course.
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PostPosted: Fri May 09, 2014 6:36 pm    Post subject:

ringfinger wrote:
venturalakersfan wrote:
gus26 wrote:
where24happens wrote:
TRULY the best years. One Robert Horry 3 away from likely 4PEAT in 2003. Can't have em all i suppose.


And if the don't take Detroit lightly and Malone doesn't get hurt it's 5 in a row


And if Shaq and Kobe weren't big babies it might have even been more.


And if Perkins doesn't get hurt, we might have had one less in 2010. =(


And if Bynum doesn't get hurt, not only would that be irrelevant, but we'd have 1 more in 2008.
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PostPosted: Fri May 09, 2014 7:32 pm    Post subject:

Game 5 was an embarrassment:


Shaq's "fouls" and 1 FTA the entire game.

Webber knocking the ball out of bounds with about 30 seconds left and the refs blowing the call.

Webber's illegal screen on Fish for Bibby's go-ahead jumper.

Jackson's foul non-call on Kobe's game-winning attempt.



We took it in the ass that game as bad they did in Game 6. Call a spade, a spade.

Game 7 came and they fired up airballs. We didn't. Period.
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PostPosted: Fri May 09, 2014 8:12 pm    Post subject:

And Shaq is now a part owner of the Queens. The irony
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PostPosted: Fri May 09, 2014 8:58 pm    Post subject:

OCWA wrote:
Great read. I was glad to hear others say that Sac had more talent top to bottom. The myth that Phil Jackson's teams always had the most talent is a bit tiresome. Go back and look at some of the rosters that Phil won titles with.


The Kings were deeper and more well rounded, but I wouldn't trade Kobe and Shaq for ANY combination of players on that Kings team. That tells me the Lakers had more talent.
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