(Coercion Eyed In Trump Paying Lawyer Fees Of Jan. 6 Witnesses)
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Rep. Zoe Lofgren, member of the January 6th Committee, talks about the blockbuster testimony from Cassidy Hutchinson, concerns about whether Donald Trump covering lawyer fees for witnesses is influencing testimony, and the newly issued subpoena to former White House counsel Pat Cipollone.
(North Dakota's Only Abortion Clinic To Move Across State Border To Minnesota)
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Tammi Kromenaker, owner and operator of Red River Women's Clinic, talks about how the Supreme Court's overturning of Roe v. Wade and a looming North Dakota state trigger law is forcing the clinic to move over the state line to Minnesota.
Trying to look for the silver lining to this ugly week -- the election is a ways off but still this is good news, especially compared to just a month ago.
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Simon Rosenberg @SimonWDC
We now have 3 Congressional Generics since Roe ended:
NPR/Marist 48 Dem 41 R +7
Morning Consult 45 Dem 42 R +3
Yahoo/YouGov 45 Dem 38 R +7
and in this poll
"Pro-choice Dem" vs "Pro-life R" is 47-32.
It's a new election.
I worry most Americans will forget about Roe v Wade by November and vote GOP if gas and inflation don't start to come down
Women just had their constitutional rights stripped away and were made permanent second-class citizens. That's a little hard to forget.
I just don't think this is something women will forget like it's just another passing current event.
We have several generations of women of voting age (particularly younger women) who have never known a world without access to abortion.
Pregnant women with health complications are going to start dying because they can't access a D&C. This is going to get really ugly.
It's up to Democrats to talk about this and the other extremist court decisions every day and show the same outrage women are feeling.
Elizabeth Warren, AOC and Ayanna Pressley are doing a good job. A lot of older Democratic politicians are not really showing the fire and urgency the situation demands, IMO.
Also, state Republicans keep writing more and more laws to restrict women every day. So this is going to stay in the news -- if the media covers it and Democratic politicians keep calling attention to it.
For example, Red states don't want women leaving the state to get an abortion in a Blue state. So they are now writing laws to restrict women's travel! I mean how does that work? If a woman wants to go on vacation or travel for business or drive to a shopping mall across the state line, will they have to get permission from the government first? Will they have to show papers from their doctor showing they are not pregnant? So a woman calls United Airlines to book a flight. Is the agent going to ask: are you pregnant before selling you a ticket? So not only did abortion get repealed, all right to privacy went out the window. This is not going back to the 1950's this is going back to the 1750's. This is some real bull-(bleep).
This is going to get progressively crazier and deadlier. And more anti-Democratic by the day.
The media is so desperate to proclaim heroes when they don't deserve it.
This woman witnessed the most lawless, corrupt, authoritarian, divisive administration, worked happily in it for years, somehow got promoted to senior positions just a few yards from the oval office at a young age (it helps to be white and attractive), witnessed an insurrection, and then only came out and told the truth as part of a fact finding commission many months later.
She did the right thing in the narrowest sense. It makes her just slightly better than all the other clowns that worked in the administration that have remained with Trump. Same with that MAGA Speaker of the House in Arizona.
I know the committee is limited in its scope, but I wish someone would just ask these people, "Why were you okay with all that madness for years?" etc.
I am not saying she is a hero, but it does seem like the pressure around her was pretty intense. Its easy to say "I would have done this etc." but IIRC her first lawyer was a trumptard so I am sure that alone was hindering a normal thought process.
I don't buy that. It's actually very easy not to join an authoritarian, lawless administration. Trump didn't become Trump on January 6, it was obvious what kind of administration he would run during the campaign in 2016. People like Hutchinson still joined that administration and stayed loyal to Trump for years. Assuming for a second that people like her joined for good reasons, they could have easily quit months before January 6 and told the world what was going on.
I understand the risks she took going before the world (what she ultimately did is good), but when we tell the story of these people, we can't just ignore the elephant in the room of joining the freaking Trump administration and apparently having no problem with it for years.
The real heroes are the election workers from Georgia. _________________ ¡Hala Madrid!
I don't buy that. It's actually very easy not to join an authoritarian, lawless administration. Trump didn't become Trump on January 6, it was obvious what kind of administration he would run during the campaign in 2016. People like Hutchinson still joined that administration and stayed loyal to Trump for years. Assuming for a second that people like her joined for good reasons, they could have easily quit months before January 6 and told the world what was going on.
I understand the risks she took going before the world (what she ultimately did is good), but when we tell the story of these people, we can't just ignore the elephant in the room of joining the freaking Trump administration and apparently having no problem with it for years.
The real heroes are the election workers from Georgia.
Not only that but most of them are fully prepared to vote for him again. Bill Barr said if Trump was the nominee, he would vote for him again. The other Republican politicians from Arizona and Georgia who testified "against" him have also said they would vote for him again. They would rather vote for a lying, insurrectionist criminal who would turn democracy into a dictatorship than vote for a Democrat. These are not good people.
In fact she specifically said in her testimony that she had always fully supported Trump because of all the "good" things he had accomplished during his administration. Really? Like kidnapping brown kids, installing unqualified extremist judges, tax cuts for the rich, killing 1M Americans with COVID due to combination of lying, denial, misinformation, dysfunctional, incompetence? Trump judges just took away her right to privacy and medical care. She's now a second-class citizen thanks to Trump.
Even for all the "good" Liz Cheney is doing on the committee, she publicly celebrated the repeal of Roe and has voted 100% for Republican policies and extremist right wing judges (incl. tax cuts for the rich, rolling back EPA, etc). She did *not* support voting rights (all Republicans filibustered putting it on the floor for a vote). Ditto Adam Kinzinger and the rest of the so-called "moderate" contingent - Romney, Collins, Murkowski.
The other reason I think the Roe reversal will still be on people's minds in November, is that Republicans just can't stop themselves from saying this kind of ignorant, misogynistic, soulless, hateful, cruel stuff on camera. They are doing their end-zone celebrations and stating explicitly on camera that they do not believe women are valuable citizens with personal rights -- they are vessels to be ordered around by men with extremist religious views via the government.
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Ashton Pittman @ashtonpittman
Here's the moment when Mississippi House Speaker Philip Gunn told journalists that he believes even 12-year-old girls raped by their fathers and uncles should be forced to carry a pregnancy to term because "every life is valuable."
BREAKING: The Supreme Court just ruled 6-3 in siding with red states and coal companies to gut the Environmental Protection Agency’s ability to limit greenhouse gas emissions.
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Angry Staffer 🌻 @Angry_Staffer
SCOTUS this week:
- Only states can regulate abortion
- States can’t regulate firearms
- The Environmental Protection Agency can’t protect the environment
- States have power over Indian Country
- Miranda rights aren’t *really* necessary
What an unmitigated disaster.
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Elizabeth Warren @SenWarren
Our planet is on fire, and this extremist Supreme Court has destroyed the federal government’s ability to fight back.
This radical Supreme Court is increasingly facing a legitimacy crisis, and we can't let them have the last word.
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Victoria Brownworth @VABVOX
The most calamitous decision a huge swath of Democrats ever made was not voting for the Democrat in 2016.
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Adam Parkhomenko @AdamParkhomenko
Ironic that the Green Party helped kill earth. We can breathe irony, right?
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David Corn @DavidCornDC
More guns, more climate disasters, more restrictions on freedom. This conservative Supreme Court may be the biggest (non-nuclear) threat the nation faces.
Hillary Clinton literally warned people that she was only thing standing between us and the apocalypse. But her emails/misogyny.
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This is from a historian and expert on authoritarian regimes:
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Heather Cox Richardson (TDPR) @HC_Richardson
The Supreme Court has gone rogue. We are in a full-blown Constitutional crisis. Congress must act. And we must pressure Congress to act, while it still can. #TheMajority
Sinema already said she won't vote to nuke the filibuster, even for abortion rights.
The only pressure citizens can apply is doing everything possible to elect 2 additional Democratic Senators (or more) this November and donate to House candidates in danger of having their seat flipped. Volunteer to register new young voters or donate to groups who do.
Yes, call your Senator or Rep today, but November is crucial.
Also, state Republicans keep writing more and more laws to restrict women every day. So this is going to stay in the news -- if the media covers it and Democratic politicians keep calling attention to it.
For example, Red states don't want women leaving the state to get an abortion in a Blue state. So they are now writing laws to restrict women's travel! I mean how does that work? If a woman wants to go on vacation or travel for business or drive to a shopping mall across the state line, will they have to get permission from the government first? Will they have to show papers from their doctor showing they are not pregnant? So a woman calls United Airlines to book a flight. Is the agent going to ask: are you pregnant before selling you a ticket? So not only did abortion get repealed, all right to privacy went out the window. This is not going back to the 1950's this is going back to the 1750's. This is some real bull-(bleep).
This is going to get progressively crazier and deadlier. And more anti-Democratic by the day.
Sorry, CL, but I am convinced that a majority of women - certainly a majority of white women - are "Stepford Wives," especially in small towns & suburbs. Even amongst the degreed, a large plurality just "vote however her <significant male> says," as Hilary put it.
As a dedicated Protestant, I have to admit that a huge piece of the blame pie falls on white, Christian nationalism, which subtly and persistently indoctrinates American women with a false theology of complimentarianism. There are a great many women who accept as a matter of faith that God made them inferior to men.
The last Democrat to win the white female vote was . . . Clinton in 1996, by a 5 point margin (in 92 he tied with Dole). Before that, it was Carter in 1976.
Liberals have been waiting for this "female wave" since I started voting (1981) . . . but outside of the coastal cities, it rarely materializes. _________________ On Lakersground, a concern troll is someone who is a fan of another team, but pretends to be a Lakers fan with "concerns".
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Posted: Thu Jun 30, 2022 7:55 am Post subject:
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It's perverse that Biden has so far brilliantly stewarded NATO between total genocide in Ukraine and Russian launched global nuclear warfare, which nonetheless won't be acknowledging by the American public. It's the greatest achievement (so far) in his presidency (and one of the greatest wins in American foreign policy) and it won't be rewarded by anyone except historians.
Yep, and it is so discouraging that even amongst so many democrats, his achievements go unappreciated and misunderstood. _________________ You thought God was an architect, now you know
He’s something like a pipe bomb ready to blow
And everything you built that’s all for show
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Posted: Thu Jun 30, 2022 7:56 am Post subject:
I’d be shocked if any of this makes a meaningful difference for the midterms. Maybe the democrats don’t lose the house by as much as they were going to before? End result is the same.
Also, state Republicans keep writing more and more laws to restrict women every day. So this is going to stay in the news -- if the media covers it and Democratic politicians keep calling attention to it.
For example, Red states don't want women leaving the state to get an abortion in a Blue state. So they are now writing laws to restrict women's travel! I mean how does that work? If a woman wants to go on vacation or travel for business or drive to a shopping mall across the state line, will they have to get permission from the government first? Will they have to show papers from their doctor showing they are not pregnant? So a woman calls United Airlines to book a flight. Is the agent going to ask: are you pregnant before selling you a ticket? So not only did abortion get repealed, all right to privacy went out the window. This is not going back to the 1950's this is going back to the 1750's. This is some real bull-(bleep).
This is going to get progressively crazier and deadlier. And more anti-Democratic by the day.
Sorry, CL, but I am convinced that a majority of women - certainly a majority of white women - are "Stepford Wives," especially in small towns & suburbs. Even amongst the degreed, a large plurality just "vote however her <significant male> says," as Hilary put it.
As a dedicated Protestant, I have to admit that a huge piece of the blame pie falls on white, Christian nationalism, which subtly and persistently indoctrinates American women with a false theology of complimentarianism. There are a great many women who accept as a matter of faith that God made them inferior to men.
The last Democrat to win the white female vote was . . . Clinton in 1996, by a 5 point margin (in 92 he tied with Dole). Before that, it was Carter in 1976.
Liberals have been waiting for this "female wave" since I started voting (1981) . . . but outside of the coastal cities, it rarely materializes.
You realize other women than white women vote, right?
And the 2018 midterm blue wave was due in part to suburban women voting Democratic. I'm not saying it will be easy, because we'll need a wave of Democratic base voters to turn out.
I'm not worried about motivating white right-wing "Christian" women. We already know where they stand.
I'm talking about the Democratic base, new young voters and Independents.
I was talking about women mobilizing the whole year leading up to the 2018 mid-terms and no one believe me.
I'm telling you I feel that same energy again. I may be wrong but I'm sure as hell not going to throw in the towel and concede the mid-terms the Republicans without a fight.
When Democrats lose mid-term elections it's because THEIR OWN VOTERS don't bother to turn out, whereas Republicans always turn out.
So that's who I'm talking about getting angry and staying angry. There are more of us when we actually show up.
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Posted: Thu Jun 30, 2022 8:14 am Post subject:
ChefLinda wrote:
This is from a historian and expert on authoritarian regimes:
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Heather Cox Richardson (TDPR) @HC_Richardson
The Supreme Court has gone rogue. We are in a full-blown Constitutional crisis. Congress must act. And we must pressure Congress to act, while it still can. #TheMajority
Sinema already said she won't vote to nuke the filibuster, even for abortion rights.
The only pressure citizens can apply is doing everything possible to elect 2 additional Democratic Senators (or more) this November and donate to House candidates in danger of having their seat flipped. Volunteer to register new young voters or donate to groups who do.
Yes, call your Senator or Rep today, but November is crucial.
This may be the most destructive Supreme Court ever. I can't imagine the amount of lawsuits against federal agencies which are already teed up and ready to go. Make no mistake: dismantling the federal government's ability to do anything is these people's end game.
I’d be shocked if any of this makes a meaningful difference for the midterms. Maybe the democrats don’t lose the house by as much as they were going to before? End result is the same.
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Brett Meiselas @BMeiselas
Just feels like there is a flood of disinformation coming in designed to suppress Democratic turnout. Don’t fall for it. Last week it was “Biden won’t endorse a filibuster carve out to codify Roe.” Well, there goes that lie. This week I’ve already seen 2-3 other stories like it.
Justice Breyer is retiring...Can we put someone in who's 20?
Ketanji Brown-Jackson is 51 years of age and will take over immediately after Breyer retires.
And today the United States has a black female Supreme Court Justice for the first time in its history. KBJ is also the first former public defender to sit on the country's highest court. _________________ Under New Management
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Posted: Thu Jun 30, 2022 9:23 am Post subject:
Baron Von Humongous wrote:
Baron Von Humongous wrote:
leor_77 wrote:
Justice Breyer is retiring...Can we put someone in who's 20?
Ketanji Brown-Jackson is 51 years of age and will take over immediately after Breyer retires.
And today the United States has a black female Supreme Court Justice for the first time in its history. KBJ is also the first former public defender to sit on the country's highest court.
Bravo Justice Brown-Jackson, bravo. (I still preferred Kruger . . . because it's easier to place a liberal justice on SCOC and not skip a beat than find another well-qualified liberal judge for the D.C. Circuit, but that's a minor complaint.)
So, as expected, the Supreme Court ruled against the EPA, neutering their ability to regulate emissions. The good thing is that solar has become very cost-competitive, so it will still be a strong option for any state, but I would very much expect republican states to start opening up a lot more coal plants.
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Posted: Thu Jun 30, 2022 10:24 am Post subject:
I am speechless.. dumbfounded beyond the ability to speak
They are a Death Cult .. Believing in Armageddon and wanting to bring Rapture
It saddens me that all the progress to protect humanity from Capitalists can be undone by 5 or 6 really (bleep) humans. They are no longer terrorists once they are the leaders.....
(Biden calls for dropping filibuster rules to put abortion rights into law)
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During a press conference following a summit of NATO leaders, President Joe Biden said he supports codifying abortion rights into law and to change the filibuster rules in Congress to do so.
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