So . . . maybe they'll go the Al Capone route since no one seems to want to go after him on any meaningful crimes . . .
They'll only have them for essentially a couple of weeks (due to holidays) until the R's take over. So I'm thinking nothing will happen...
Maybe they'll slip copies over to the Senate...
Still not holding my breath.
Yeah, I think he may have stalled long enough before they got to them. But these will likely make their way somewhere to be poured over.
I wish someone would accidentally on purpose leak them to Susanne Craig at the NYT. She's been investigating his finances for years and is an expert (and won a Pulitzer for it).
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The Department of Homeland Security raised concerns about potential threats to the LGBTQ, Jewish, and migrant communities from violent extremists inside the United States, saying Americans motivated by violent ideologies pose a “persistent and lethal threat." The creeping white nationalism that has infected the Republican Party has invited hate and fear of fellow Americans to spread Joy Reid's guests explain.
(How Federal Employees Prevented Trump Era From Being ‘Much Worse’)
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In his new book, “American Resistance: The Inside Story of How the Deep State Saved the Nation,” David Rothkopf details the efforts by “patriotic” federal employees to block Trump’s worst impulses and policies. He tells MSNBC’s Lawrence O’Donnell it’s important to study how the guardrails of democracy held as Trump works to replace them with more “loyalists” in a future administration.
So . . . maybe they'll go the Al Capone route since no one seems to want to go after him on any meaningful crimes . . .
They'll only have them for essentially a couple of weeks (due to holidays) until the R's take over. So I'm thinking nothing will happen...
Maybe they'll slip copies over to the Senate...
Still not holding my breath.
Yeah, I think he may have stalled long enough before they got to them. But these will likely make their way somewhere to be poured over.
I wish someone would accidentally on purpose leak them to Susanne Craig at the NYT. She's been investigating his finances for years and is an expert (and won a Pulitzer for it).
How about to the DOJ? _________________ On Lakersground, a concern troll is someone who is a fan of another team, but pretends to be a Lakers fan with "concerns".
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(Arizona Becomes Ground Zero For Right-Wing Nut Jobs)
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So . . . maybe they'll go the Al Capone route since no one seems to want to go after him on any meaningful crimes . . .
They'll only have them for essentially a couple of weeks (due to holidays) until the R's take over. So I'm thinking nothing will happen...
Maybe they'll slip copies over to the Senate...
Still not holding my breath.
Yeah, I think he may have stalled long enough before they got to them. But these will likely make their way somewhere to be poured over.
I wish someone would accidentally on purpose leak them to Susanne Craig at the NYT. She's been investigating his finances for years and is an expert (and won a Pulitzer for it).
How about to the DOJ?
There's a process for Congress to investigate then recommend investigation to DOJ. But I don't think there is enough time for that process given it's the holidays and the Republicans are set to take over all the House committees in January. I believe a Senate committee could form around the same issue and formally request records. But again, that would take time and wouldn't happen until the new session. The quickest way for the public to see the records is for them to be leaked to the press. That was my thinking. I'm sure the DOJ will end up with the records eventually one way or the other. The DOJ could request them as part of their own ongoing investigations. For all we know they may already have them. But these things typically don't leak from the DOJ while they do leak when individual congress people and their staffs have access.
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(Joe: House GOP Running Toward The Same Tornado That Keeps Knocking Them Down)
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(Joe: House GOP Running Toward The Same Tornado That Keeps Knocking Them Down)
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Rep. Kevin McCarthy, R-Calif., on Wednesday warned the January 6 Committee that members of the GOP planned to launch an inquiry into the panel’s work next year when Republicans assume control of the chamber. The Morning Joe panel discusses.
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Halflife wrote:
FernieBee wrote:
MSNBC
(Joe: House GOP Running Toward The Same Tornado That Keeps Knocking Them Down)
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Rep. Kevin McCarthy, R-Calif., on Wednesday warned the January 6 Committee that members of the GOP planned to launch an inquiry into the panel’s work next year when Republicans assume control of the chamber. The Morning Joe panel discusses.
This will not go well for McCarthy.
It'll go fine. Republicans will eat up whatever they claim to "find". But it will go nowhere and have no repercussions for anyone, Dems or Republicans. _________________ You thought God was an architect, now you know
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What happens in court is more important than what happens in these committees, and so far, things are not going well for the some of the insurrectionist leaders.
(Joe: House GOP Running Toward The Same Tornado That Keeps Knocking Them Down)
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Rep. Kevin McCarthy, R-Calif., on Wednesday warned the January 6 Committee that members of the GOP planned to launch an inquiry into the panel’s work next year when Republicans assume control of the chamber. The Morning Joe panel discusses.
This will not go well for McCarthy.
It'll go fine. Republicans will eat up whatever they claim to "find". But it will go nowhere and have no repercussions for anyone, Dems or Republicans.
(LeBron James calls out reporters for not questioning Jerry Jones photo)
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LeBron James asked reporters during a press conference why they questioned him about a Kyrie Irving tweet linked to an antisemitic film, but never questioned him on a picture that emerged of Dallas Cowboys owner Jerry Jones from 1957 seemingly showing Jones in a group blocking Black students from entering a desegregated school.
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Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2022 11:49 am Post subject:
Halflife wrote:
DaMuleRules wrote:
Halflife wrote:
FernieBee wrote:
MSNBC
(Joe: House GOP Running Toward The Same Tornado That Keeps Knocking Them Down)
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Rep. Kevin McCarthy, R-Calif., on Wednesday warned the January 6 Committee that members of the GOP planned to launch an inquiry into the panel’s work next year when Republicans assume control of the chamber. The Morning Joe panel discusses.
This will not go well for McCarthy.
It'll go fine. Republicans will eat up whatever they claim to "find". But it will go nowhere and have no repercussions for anyone, Dems or Republicans.
a lot of people under oath.
McCarthy's not on a fact finding mission. He is simply trying to find someway to claim that the Dems acted improperly and maliciously. He may be a buffoon, but he's not going to uncover anything that implicates any Republicans for wrong doings. _________________ You thought God was an architect, now you know
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Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2022 12:06 pm Post subject:
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CNN
(LeBron James calls out reporters for not questioning Jerry Jones photo)
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LeBron James asked reporters during a press conference why they questioned him about a Kyrie Irving tweet linked to an antisemitic film, but never questioned him on a picture that emerged of Dallas Cowboys owner Jerry Jones from 1957 seemingly showing Jones in a group blocking Black students from entering a desegregated school.
I get his point, and I don't disagree with the intent, but that was a bogus move on LBJ's part. So NBA journalists didn't ask an NBA player about a situation involving an NFL owner. No real hypocrisy there. And Irving openly touting an anti-semitic film and doubling down on it is very different thanJones simply being in the background of a photo showing a racially charged incident 65 years ago. _________________ You thought God was an architect, now you know
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And everything you built that’s all for show
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(LeBron James calls out reporters for not questioning Jerry Jones photo)
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LeBron James asked reporters during a press conference why they questioned him about a Kyrie Irving tweet linked to an antisemitic film, but never questioned him on a picture that emerged of Dallas Cowboys owner Jerry Jones from 1957 seemingly showing Jones in a group blocking Black students from entering a desegregated school.
I get his point, and I don't disagree with the intent, but that was a bogus move on LBJ's part. So NBA journalists didn't ask an NBA player about a situation involving an NFL owner. No real hypocrisy there. And Irving openly touting an anti-semitic film and doubling down on it is very different thanJones simply being in the background of a photo showing a racially charged incident 65 years ago.
I agree with you however just like brett Favre (totally different) it feels like its just swept away. Kyrie was hounded until he apologized. Neither of the other guys had to do that. Yes 65 years ago is another time. I have a 12yr old and would hate it if he did/said something that haunted him past 18. I read the article and am aware of JJ's support for trump (2016) and I know how he felt about players kneeling. We know the NFL is still a good ol boys network, we don't have to look further than the team in his division. It didn't offend me but I am not black. JJ throws the roony rule out so why not put him on the spot. If for no other reason than to put him on the record.
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Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2022 6:02 pm Post subject:
Halflife wrote:
DaMuleRules wrote:
FernieBee wrote:
CNN
(LeBron James calls out reporters for not questioning Jerry Jones photo)
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LeBron James asked reporters during a press conference why they questioned him about a Kyrie Irving tweet linked to an antisemitic film, but never questioned him on a picture that emerged of Dallas Cowboys owner Jerry Jones from 1957 seemingly showing Jones in a group blocking Black students from entering a desegregated school.
I get his point, and I don't disagree with the intent, but that was a bogus move on LBJ's part. So NBA journalists didn't ask an NBA player about a situation involving an NFL owner. No real hypocrisy there. And Irving openly touting an anti-semitic film and doubling down on it is very different thanJones simply being in the background of a photo showing a racially charged incident 65 years ago.
I agree with you however just like brett Favre (totally different) it feels like its just swept away. Kyrie was hounded until he apologized. Neither of the other guys had to do that. Yes 65 years ago is another time. I have a 12yr old and would hate it if he did/said something that haunted him past 18. I read the article and am aware of JJ's support for trump (2016) and I know how he felt about players kneeling. We know the NFL is still a good ol boys network, we don't have to look further than the team in his division. It didn't offend me but I am not black. JJ throws the roony rule out so why not put him on the spot. If for no other reason than to put him on the record.
Back to my 12yr. He knows right from wrong especially when it comes to equality.
They asked him about Colin Kaepernick when Jerry Jones insisted his players stand during the National Anthem. Why not ask him about Jerry Jones seeming to interfere with racial equality? Like he said he has a platform and is using it to voice equal rights. They asked him about Kyrie. Why not ask him about Jerry Jones? It's a double standard. The rich are out of bounds. Time doesn't erase the infraction. _________________ Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind.
America will never be destroyed from the outside. If we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves.
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Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2022 6:21 pm Post subject:
jodeke wrote:
Halflife wrote:
DaMuleRules wrote:
FernieBee wrote:
CNN
(LeBron James calls out reporters for not questioning Jerry Jones photo)
Quote:
LeBron James asked reporters during a press conference why they questioned him about a Kyrie Irving tweet linked to an antisemitic film, but never questioned him on a picture that emerged of Dallas Cowboys owner Jerry Jones from 1957 seemingly showing Jones in a group blocking Black students from entering a desegregated school.
I get his point, and I don't disagree with the intent, but that was a bogus move on LBJ's part. So NBA journalists didn't ask an NBA player about a situation involving an NFL owner. No real hypocrisy there. And Irving openly touting an anti-semitic film and doubling down on it is very different thanJones simply being in the background of a photo showing a racially charged incident 65 years ago.
I agree with you however just like brett Favre (totally different) it feels like its just swept away. Kyrie was hounded until he apologized. Neither of the other guys had to do that. Yes 65 years ago is another time. I have a 12yr old and would hate it if he did/said something that haunted him past 18. I read the article and am aware of JJ's support for trump (2016) and I know how he felt about players kneeling. We know the NFL is still a good ol boys network, we don't have to look further than the team in his division. It didn't offend me but I am not black. JJ throws the roony rule out so why not put him on the spot. If for no other reason than to put him on the record.
Back to my 12yr. He knows right from wrong especially when it comes to equality.
They asked him about Colin Kaepernick when Jerry Jones insisted his players stand during the National Anthem. Why not ask him about Jerry Jones seeming to interfere with racial equality? Like he said he has a platform and is using it to voice equal rights. They asked him about Kyrie. Why not ask him about Jerry Jones? It's a double standard. The rich are out of bounds. Time doesn't erase the infraction.
LeBron was a pretty well-known Cowboys fan at one time, also.
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LINK _________________ Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind.
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Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2022 7:12 pm Post subject:
Halflife wrote:
DaMuleRules wrote:
FernieBee wrote:
CNN
(LeBron James calls out reporters for not questioning Jerry Jones photo)
Quote:
LeBron James asked reporters during a press conference why they questioned him about a Kyrie Irving tweet linked to an antisemitic film, but never questioned him on a picture that emerged of Dallas Cowboys owner Jerry Jones from 1957 seemingly showing Jones in a group blocking Black students from entering a desegregated school.
I get his point, and I don't disagree with the intent, but that was a bogus move on LBJ's part. So NBA journalists didn't ask an NBA player about a situation involving an NFL owner. No real hypocrisy there. And Irving openly touting an anti-semitic film and doubling down on it is very different thanJones simply being in the background of a photo showing a racially charged incident 65 years ago.
I agree with you however just like brett Favre (totally different) it feels like its just swept away. Kyrie was hounded until he apologized. Neither of the other guys had to do that. Yes 65 years ago is another time. I have a 12yr old and would hate it if he did/said something that haunted him past 18. I read the article and am aware of JJ's support for trump (2016) and I know how he felt about players kneeling. We know the NFL is still a good ol boys network, we don't have to look further than the team in his division. It didn't offend me but I am not black. JJ throws the roony rule out so why not put him on the spot. If for no other reason than to put him on the record.
Back to my 12yr. He knows right from wrong especially when it comes to equality.
It's not simply a matter of the passage of time. Even if the photo had somehow occurred last week, it's unreasonable for LBJ too equate the two instances. Jones is simply in the background of a photo. While the context of the photo certainly doesn't look good for him. He is not overtly expressing a racist view. He's not holding a sign demonstrating a racist point of view. He's not even openly aggressive like the menacing dude in the center of the photo. Contrast that too Irving, who openly touted an anti-Semitic film, continued to stand by the merits of the film and his choice to advocate for it when challenged about it and then only expressed an "apology" about it when the outcry turned into consequences. The two instances couldn't be more incomparable.
And look, I am in no way defending Jones in this. Nor am I saying that there shouldn't be more made of the Jones situation in the media. And one could certainly assert that there is a degree of a double standard in regards to Jones not being challenged harder. My point is that for LBJ (an NBA player) to call out the NBA media for not directly asking him about an issue involving an NFL owner over two entirely different situations is completely off base. If LBJ had simply expressed displeasure about what he sees as a double standard regarding Jerry Jones completely on his own, that's one thing. But for him to assert that the NBA media is hypocritical about the situation because they didn't ask him about a matter that doesn't pertain to the NBA? That is entirely unfair.
I am glad to hear you have done a fine job of instilling the concept social equity with your son at an early age. That has always been an emphasis in our family, and my wife and I proud to have two adult children who are staunch and engaged advocates for social justice and equality. I wish there were more of us doing the same. _________________ You thought God was an architect, now you know
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Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2022 7:14 pm Post subject:
ChickenStu wrote:
jodeke wrote:
Halflife wrote:
DaMuleRules wrote:
FernieBee wrote:
CNN
(LeBron James calls out reporters for not questioning Jerry Jones photo)
Quote:
LeBron James asked reporters during a press conference why they questioned him about a Kyrie Irving tweet linked to an antisemitic film, but never questioned him on a picture that emerged of Dallas Cowboys owner Jerry Jones from 1957 seemingly showing Jones in a group blocking Black students from entering a desegregated school.
I get his point, and I don't disagree with the intent, but that was a bogus move on LBJ's part. So NBA journalists didn't ask an NBA player about a situation involving an NFL owner. No real hypocrisy there. And Irving openly touting an anti-semitic film and doubling down on it is very different thanJones simply being in the background of a photo showing a racially charged incident 65 years ago.
I agree with you however just like brett Favre (totally different) it feels like its just swept away. Kyrie was hounded until he apologized. Neither of the other guys had to do that. Yes 65 years ago is another time. I have a 12yr old and would hate it if he did/said something that haunted him past 18. I read the article and am aware of JJ's support for trump (2016) and I know how he felt about players kneeling. We know the NFL is still a good ol boys network, we don't have to look further than the team in his division. It didn't offend me but I am not black. JJ throws the roony rule out so why not put him on the spot. If for no other reason than to put him on the record.
Back to my 12yr. He knows right from wrong especially when it comes to equality.
They asked him about Colin Kaepernick when Jerry Jones insisted his players stand during the National Anthem. Why not ask him about Jerry Jones seeming to interfere with racial equality? Like he said he has a platform and is using it to voice equal rights. They asked him about Kyrie. Why not ask him about Jerry Jones? It's a double standard. The rich are out of bounds. Time doesn't erase the infraction.
LeBron was a pretty well-known Cowboys fan at one time, also.
Yep. And that was the context of him being asked about it, and reasonably so. _________________ You thought God was an architect, now you know
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