THE Political Thread (ALL Political Discussion Here - See Rules, P. 1)
Goto page Previous  1, 2, 3 ... 3431, 3432, 3433 ... 3435, 3436, 3437  Next

 
Post new topic    LakersGround.net Forum Index -> Off Topic Reply to topic
View previous topic :: View next topic  
Author Message
Wilt
LG Contributor
LG Contributor


Joined: 29 Dec 2002
Posts: 13066

PostPosted: Fri Nov 18, 2022 11:27 am    Post subject:

Wow.

F*ck that.

F*ck Garland, f*ck the DOJ, f*ck everybody.

I'm sick of this (bleep). Trump will get away with it again.
_________________
¡Hala Madrid!
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Reply with quote
ChefLinda
Moderator
Moderator


Joined: 20 Sep 2006
Posts: 23339
Location: Boston

PostPosted: Fri Nov 18, 2022 11:29 am    Post subject:

NBC: Garland named John L. Smith, a former federal prosecutor with experience at the Hague, as special counsel. Smith will focus on Trump’s handling of classified documents and Jan. 6.

Quote:
Garland named John L. Smith, known as Jack Smith, a prosecutor at The Hague and a former federal prosecutor, to begin serving as special counsel immediately. Smith was previously the chief of the Justice Department’s Public Integrity Section, where he oversaw public corruption and elections-related investigations.

Smith is assigned with investigating whether anyone violated the law in connection with efforts to “interfere with the lawful transfer of power following the 2020 presidential election or the certification of the Electoral College vote held on or about January 6, 2021, as well as any matters that arose or might arise directly from this investigation.” The U.S. Attorney’s Office for the District of Columbia will continue investigating those individuals who stormed the U.S. Capitol.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Reply with quote
ChefLinda
Moderator
Moderator


Joined: 20 Sep 2006
Posts: 23339
Location: Boston

PostPosted: Fri Nov 18, 2022 11:31 am    Post subject:

Many legal experts saying this actually means they are "about to indict" and they just want to hand it off to a "neutral" party first. I'll believe it when I see it.

Quote:
Katie S. Phang @KatiePhang

My hot take: No need for Garland to appoint a special counsel unless you're going to indict.


Last edited by ChefLinda on Fri Nov 18, 2022 11:33 am; edited 1 time in total
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Reply with quote
Wilt
LG Contributor
LG Contributor


Joined: 29 Dec 2002
Posts: 13066

PostPosted: Fri Nov 18, 2022 11:33 am    Post subject:

ChefLinda wrote:
Many legal experts saying this actually means they are "about to indict" and they just want to hand it off to a "neutral" party. I'll believe it when I see it.


I'm sure the GOP and the MAGA world will accept an indictment as legitimate if some John Smith guy decides it instead of Garland.

Most likely, this will result in more delays.
_________________
¡Hala Madrid!
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Reply with quote
ChefLinda
Moderator
Moderator


Joined: 20 Sep 2006
Posts: 23339
Location: Boston

PostPosted: Fri Nov 18, 2022 11:35 am    Post subject:

The whole thing is completely (bleep) up. Trump has committed crimes every single day for the last 6 years, and his entire life before that. But we just need a little more time to decide whether to apply the rule of law. Sickening.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Reply with quote
DaMuleRules
Retired Number
Retired Number


Joined: 10 Dec 2006
Posts: 50939
Location: Making a safety stop at 15 feet.

PostPosted: Fri Nov 18, 2022 12:12 pm    Post subject:

Wilt wrote:
Wow.

F*ck that.

F*ck Garland, f*ck the DOJ, f*ck everybody.

I'm sick of this (bleep). Trump will get away with it again.


Gee, if only we could have seen that coming . . .
_________________
You thought God was an architect, now you know
He’s something like a pipe bomb ready to blow
And everything you built that’s all for show
goes up in flames
In 24 frames


Jason Isbell

Man, do those lyrics resonate right now
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Reply with quote
focus
Star Player
Star Player


Joined: 23 May 2012
Posts: 2326

PostPosted: Fri Nov 18, 2022 12:22 pm    Post subject:

Omar Little wrote:
Dr. Laker wrote:
slavavov wrote:
LakerSanity wrote:
I'll say this - there are over 13,000,000 people in this country over the age of 80, many of which will live pat 90 and a good chunk past 100, especially as technology improves. Those people deserve representation in their government. Someone's age also is not an automatic disqualifier from being in a position of responsibility; in fact, it many times can be a qualifier for someone in such a position. I also believe that people in cognitive decline can still, and often do, provide valuable services to those around them.

I want Grassley and Feinstein gone because I don't think they adequately represent the American people (and, specifically, the values of Californians like myself). Their age has nothing to do with it, nor should it.

Feinstein is too conservative for today's Democratic party. It may have worked in the '90s, but now that many Dems want to legalize cannabis, raise the minimum wage and at least institute a public health care option, she's been left behind.


I'll say it - 80 is too old to hold federal office. POTUS, SCOTUS, Congress, Senate, Cabinet, Federal Judges - sit your old asses down. And I'm closer to 80 than 95% of this board.


That’s ageist BS. It needs to be based on the individual. I hate to tell you this, but the most consequential political achievements in a long time were by a couple 80 year olds and one not far off.

What were those achievements by the three?
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Reply with quote
hoopschick29
Franchise Player
Franchise Player


Joined: 23 Jul 2004
Posts: 12864
Location: Los Angeles

PostPosted: Fri Nov 18, 2022 12:31 pm    Post subject:

DaMuleRules wrote:
Wilt wrote:
Wow.

F*ck that.

F*ck Garland, f*ck the DOJ, f*ck everybody.

I'm sick of this (bleep). Trump will get away with it again.


Gee, if only we could have seen that coming . . .


I mean...it took them a whole year and half to go get classified documents they knew he had pretty much the entire time. They asked (no, BEGGED) him to please give them back. The United States begging for highly sensitive classified papers...they couldn't appear more reluctant to do anything to the man if they tried.
_________________
So glad we gave you your flowers while you were here, Kobe.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Reply with quote
jodeke
Retired Number
Retired Number


Joined: 17 Nov 2007
Posts: 61474
Location: In a world where admitting to not knowing something is considered a great way to learn.

PostPosted: Fri Nov 18, 2022 12:34 pm    Post subject:

LIVE
updated
12 minutes ago

NewsWorldAmericasUS politics
Trump news – live: Garland taps ex-war crimes prosecutor to weigh Trump Jan 6 and Mar-a-Lago criminal charges


LINK
Quote:

Attorney General Merrick Garland has named Department of Justice veteran and former Hague war crimes prosecutor Jack Smith as special counsel to consider whether former president Donald Trump should face criminal charges.

_________________
Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind.

America will never be destroyed from the outside. If we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Reply with quote
ChefLinda
Moderator
Moderator


Joined: 20 Sep 2006
Posts: 23339
Location: Boston

PostPosted: Fri Nov 18, 2022 12:46 pm    Post subject:

I know we all very cynical and skeptical here, so just I'm just passing on statements:

Quote:
Katie Benner @ktbenner

Statement of Special Counsel Jack Smith:
“The pace of the investigations will not pause or flag under my watch. I will exercise independent judgement and will move the investigations forward expeditiously and thoroughly to whatever outcome the facts and the law dictate.”


Quote:
Laurence Tribe @tribelaw

If a special counsel was to be appointed, I can think of no-one better suited than Jack Smith. Vast experience prosecuting public corruption cases, treacherous national security violations, and crimes against humanity. Absorbs complex facts instantly. Perfect for Donald Trump.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Reply with quote
jodeke
Retired Number
Retired Number


Joined: 17 Nov 2007
Posts: 61474
Location: In a world where admitting to not knowing something is considered a great way to learn.

PostPosted: Fri Nov 18, 2022 1:09 pm    Post subject:

Trump has so many dogs nipping at his heels that one is bound to get a solid hold. If he comes out of these multiple investigations and indictments unscathed Teflon Don will belong to him exclusively.

If I read Garland correctly Trump brought the special counsel on himself when he announced his run for president. He'd be running against Garland's boss Joe Biden and prosecuting him would be a conflict of interest.
_________________
Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind.

America will never be destroyed from the outside. If we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Reply with quote
FernieBee
Star Player
Star Player


Joined: 17 Nov 2003
Posts: 6684
Location: 921SD

PostPosted: Fri Nov 18, 2022 2:06 pm    Post subject:

BBC News
https://youtu.be/F08692R5Otw
(Saudi crown prince granted immunity by US over Jamal Khashoggi killing - BBC News)

Quote:
Saudi Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman has been granted immunity by the US in a lawsuit against him over the death of journalist Jamal Khashoggi.

The announcement has been condemned by Khashoggi's family and friends.

In 2018, Jamal Khashoggi was killed at the Saudi consulate in Istanbul following his public criticisms of its government.

The lawsuit was bought against Mohammed bin Salman after a document declassified by the Biden administration in 2021 revealed the crown prince was in some way complicit in the murder of Mr Khashoggi.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Reply with quote
Wilt
LG Contributor
LG Contributor


Joined: 29 Dec 2002
Posts: 13066

PostPosted: Fri Nov 18, 2022 2:19 pm    Post subject:

Quote:
Some early GOP reaction to the naming of a special counsel overseeing ongoing Trump probes
- Cornyn says there should be a special counsel to look at Hunter Biden
- Cruz says Biden's DOJ is being used to "attack his political opponents"
- MTG calls for Garland's impeachment


Republicans are clearly embracing the idea of a neutral Special Counsel.
_________________
¡Hala Madrid!
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Reply with quote
FernieBee
Star Player
Star Player


Joined: 17 Nov 2003
Posts: 6684
Location: 921SD

PostPosted: Fri Nov 18, 2022 2:21 pm    Post subject:

MSNBC
https://youtu.be/vVD75w7FLhY
(MAGA’s Big Lie Candidates Crushed In Midterms As Murdoch Trolls ‘Loser’ Trump)

Quote:
Tony Schwartz, co-author of “The Art of the Deal” with Donald Trump, joins MSNBC’s Ari Melber after Trump-backed big lie candidates suffered losses in the midterms. Many within the GOP signaling crisis for the party, with Josh Hawley saying the party is dead.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Reply with quote
FernieBee
Star Player
Star Player


Joined: 17 Nov 2003
Posts: 6684
Location: 921SD

PostPosted: Fri Nov 18, 2022 2:21 pm    Post subject:

MSNBC
https://youtu.be/h4S0tLHu77w
(David Rothkopf: Muslim-Ban Architect Stephen Miller Advising McCarthy ‘Should Be A Warning Sign’)

Quote:
Author of “American Resistance: The Inside Story of How the Deep State Saved the Nation” David Rothkopf tells Andrea Mitchell some Trump officials resisted dangerous Trump policies from people like Muslim ban architect Stephen Miller. Miller is now reportedly advising Kevin McCarthy, which Rothkopf says “should be a warning sign” that McCarthy is “going to be taking direction to some extent from Mar-a-Lago.”
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Reply with quote
ChefLinda
Moderator
Moderator


Joined: 20 Sep 2006
Posts: 23339
Location: Boston

PostPosted: Fri Nov 18, 2022 2:34 pm    Post subject:

Wilt wrote:
Quote:
Some early GOP reaction to the naming of a special counsel overseeing ongoing Trump probes
- Cornyn says there should be a special counsel to look at Hunter Biden
- Cruz says Biden's DOJ is being used to "attack his political opponents"
- MTG calls for Garland's impeachment


Republicans are clearly embracing the idea of a neutral Special Counsel.


Other than the rather obvious hypocrisy, part of their tactic actually fits the authoritarian playbook. Accuse the other side of doing what you are guilty of and you create an atmosphere where no one knows what to believe and everyone thinks all politicians are corrupt -- so what the big deal? If all politicians are corrupt then what does it matter that Trump took documents home or tried to use DOJ and IRS to go after his critics because "Democrats do it too." It's part of the propaganda war and the way they brainwash their own cult and confuse Independents and low information voters.

(I know you know this just pointing it out for others.)
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Reply with quote
DaMuleRules
Retired Number
Retired Number


Joined: 10 Dec 2006
Posts: 50939
Location: Making a safety stop at 15 feet.

PostPosted: Fri Nov 18, 2022 2:55 pm    Post subject:

ChefLinda wrote:
I know we all very cynical and skeptical here, so just I'm just passing on statements:

Quote:
Katie Benner @ktbenner

Statement of Special Counsel Jack Smith:
“The pace of the investigations will not pause or flag under my watch.


Pace? What pace?


Quote:
If a special counsel was to be appointed, I can think of no-one better suited than Jack Smith. Vast experience prosecuting public corruption cases, treacherous national security violations, and crimes against humanity. Absorbs complex facts instantly. Perfect for Donald Trump.


That's the pretty much exactly what people said about Garland, who did nothing.

(just responding to the comments)
_________________
You thought God was an architect, now you know
He’s something like a pipe bomb ready to blow
And everything you built that’s all for show
goes up in flames
In 24 frames


Jason Isbell

Man, do those lyrics resonate right now
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Reply with quote
ChefLinda
Moderator
Moderator


Joined: 20 Sep 2006
Posts: 23339
Location: Boston

PostPosted: Fri Nov 18, 2022 3:03 pm    Post subject:

The said the same thing about Robert Mueller too.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Reply with quote
DaMuleRules
Retired Number
Retired Number


Joined: 10 Dec 2006
Posts: 50939
Location: Making a safety stop at 15 feet.

PostPosted: Fri Nov 18, 2022 3:07 pm    Post subject:

ChefLinda wrote:
The said the same thing about Robert Mueller too.


Indeed they did . . .
_________________
You thought God was an architect, now you know
He’s something like a pipe bomb ready to blow
And everything you built that’s all for show
goes up in flames
In 24 frames


Jason Isbell

Man, do those lyrics resonate right now
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Reply with quote
Halflife
Franchise Player
Franchise Player


Joined: 15 Aug 2015
Posts: 12331

PostPosted: Fri Nov 18, 2022 3:20 pm    Post subject:

DaMuleRules wrote:
ChefLinda wrote:
The said the same thing about Robert Mueller too.


Indeed they did . . .

Muller said there was enough to charge but because of the unwritten rule of not charging a president (IIRC) that's what stopped it at being just a report.

No president here.
_________________
Kobe.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Reply with quote
DaMuleRules
Retired Number
Retired Number


Joined: 10 Dec 2006
Posts: 50939
Location: Making a safety stop at 15 feet.

PostPosted: Fri Nov 18, 2022 3:31 pm    Post subject:

Halflife wrote:
DaMuleRules wrote:
ChefLinda wrote:
The said the same thing about Robert Mueller too.


Indeed they did . . .

Muller said there was enough to charge but because of the unwritten rule of not charging a president (IIRC) that's what stopped it at being just a report.

No president here.


That was just an excuse to not prosecute at the time, just like Garland has been doing. No one, including an acting president, is above the law.
_________________
You thought God was an architect, now you know
He’s something like a pipe bomb ready to blow
And everything you built that’s all for show
goes up in flames
In 24 frames


Jason Isbell

Man, do those lyrics resonate right now
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Reply with quote
hoopschick29
Franchise Player
Franchise Player


Joined: 23 Jul 2004
Posts: 12864
Location: Los Angeles

PostPosted: Fri Nov 18, 2022 4:04 pm    Post subject:

This whole thing feels kinda hot potato-ey.

No one who actually has the power, has the stomach to go after Trump.
_________________
So glad we gave you your flowers while you were here, Kobe.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Reply with quote
numero-ocho
Franchise Player
Franchise Player


Joined: 27 Jul 2004
Posts: 17940
Location: Los Angeles, CA

PostPosted: Fri Nov 18, 2022 4:14 pm    Post subject:

Lawyer's opinion of Special Prosecutor Jack Smith from MeidasTouch network.

https://youtu.be/p87mljBLXdg?t=496
_________________
"Suck it up. Don't be a baby. Do your job." - Kobe Bryant
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Reply with quote
kikanga
Retired Number
Retired Number


Joined: 15 Sep 2012
Posts: 27343
Location: La La Land

PostPosted: Fri Nov 18, 2022 4:24 pm    Post subject:

DaMuleRules wrote:
No one, including an acting president, is above the law.


We'll see.
Would you bet your life on it? I wouldn't.
We'll find out soon. The next R President. Trump or not. They'll probably break more laws since Trump is getting away with it right now.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Reply with quote
DaMuleRules
Retired Number
Retired Number


Joined: 10 Dec 2006
Posts: 50939
Location: Making a safety stop at 15 feet.

PostPosted: Fri Nov 18, 2022 5:30 pm    Post subject:

kikanga wrote:
DaMuleRules wrote:
No one, including an acting president, is above the law.


We'll see.
Would you bet your life on it? I wouldn't.
We'll find out soon. The next R President. Trump or not. They'll probably break more laws since Trump is getting away with it right now.


You obviously have missed all of my posts on the subject for the last few years. I’m under no illusions that Trump will ever be prosecuted and have been vocal that he won’t be and critical of people like Garland who skirted their obligation to uphold the law

You removed the above comment from its context where it was clearly in response to Mueller’s excuse for not proceeding with charges against Trump a few years ago. The comment was refuting the claim that there’s a “rule” against charging a sitting President of a crime. Not a statement that Trump will get charged.
_________________
You thought God was an architect, now you know
He’s something like a pipe bomb ready to blow
And everything you built that’s all for show
goes up in flames
In 24 frames


Jason Isbell

Man, do those lyrics resonate right now
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Reply with quote
Display posts from previous:   
Post new topic    LakersGround.net Forum Index -> Off Topic All times are GMT - 8 Hours
Goto page Previous  1, 2, 3 ... 3431, 3432, 3433 ... 3435, 3436, 3437  Next
Page 3432 of 3437
Jump to:  

 
You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum






Graphics by uberzev
© 1995-2018 LakersGround.net. All Rights Reserved. Privacy Policy. Terms of Use.
LakersGround is an unofficial news source serving the fan community since 1995.
We are in no way associated with the Los Angeles Lakers or the National Basketball Association.


Powered by phpBB