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PostPosted: Wed May 25, 2022 9:06 am    Post subject:

Where is Jimmy Butler on the All-NBA team?
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PostPosted: Wed May 25, 2022 9:36 am    Post subject:

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Where is Jimmy Butler on the All-NBA team?


He was the runner up at the forward position. The vote distribution is interesting. Siakam got the last spot on the third team, but there is a big gap between him and everyone else. Basically, 14 guys got almost all of the votes for the 15 slots.

https://www.nba.com/news/antetokounmpo-jokic-doncic-2021-22-kia-all-nba-first-team
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PostPosted: Wed May 25, 2022 9:43 am    Post subject:

Klutch controlled media.
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PostPosted: Wed May 25, 2022 9:47 am    Post subject:

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No reason for Lebron to get 2 first place votes. Klutch controlled media.


Where is Russ? Don’t “superstars” usually get on all NBA teams?
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PostPosted: Wed May 25, 2022 10:09 am    Post subject:

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No reason for Lebron to get 2 first place votes. Klutch controlled media.


Lol. They control the media so powerfully that they got LeBron the amazing number of TWO votes.

Go to sleep, MING.
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PostPosted: Wed May 25, 2022 10:20 am    Post subject:

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Those two first team votes robbed a more deserving player from his spot on the All-NBA team. Lebron had no business being named to the All-NBA team after last season. He should feel proud.


So how about all the others that voted for him? Why single out 2?
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PostPosted: Wed May 25, 2022 11:03 am    Post subject:

JUST-MING wrote:
Klutch controlled media.


Brilliant analysis
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PostPosted: Wed May 25, 2022 12:15 pm    Post subject:

Aeneas Hunter wrote:
JUST-MING wrote:
Where is Jimmy Butler on the All-NBA team?


He was the runner up at the forward position. The vote distribution is interesting. Siakam got the last spot on the third team, but there is a big gap between him and everyone else. Basically, 14 guys got almost all of the votes for the 15 slots.

https://www.nba.com/news/antetokounmpo-jokic-doncic-2021-22-kia-all-nba-first-team


Butler had a lot of team success, but (like Lebron) he missed a lot of games and his personal performance wasn't as good as last year.

It's almost as if the voters were sure of 5 of the 6 forward spots, but their opinion on the 6th spot was "none of the above."
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PostPosted: Wed May 25, 2022 12:22 pm    Post subject:

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Mr. Glass AD doesn’t make it you say?



Nobody on our team deserved to be on that list. Notice every last one of them made the playoffs, except one guy.


It's not common for a player to wish the playoffs and make the all-NBA team, but it does happen every few years. Kemba Walker, Kevin Love, and DeMarcus Cousins are a few guys who had that happen as well.


Yeah All-NBA voting isn't MVP voting. There's much less bias towards team success.


That's true. In fact, back in the 60s there were years when Bill Russell won the MVP award, but Wilt made 1st all NBA team and Russell made 2nd all NBA team.
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PostPosted: Wed May 25, 2022 4:49 pm    Post subject:

Only Lakers fans can be mad that one of its players made All NBA.
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PostPosted: Wed May 25, 2022 5:34 pm    Post subject:

danzag wrote:
JUST-MING wrote:
No reason for Lebron to get 2 first place votes. Klutch controlled media.


Lol. They control the media so powerfully that they got LeBron the amazing number of TWO votes.

Go to sleep, MING.


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PostPosted: Wed May 25, 2022 5:35 pm    Post subject:

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Only Lakers fans can be mad that one of its players made All NBA.


So sad.
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PostPosted: Wed May 25, 2022 5:38 pm    Post subject:

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yinoma2001 wrote:
Only Lakers fans can be mad that one of its players made All NBA.


So sad.


And ashamed of the 2020 championship. 🤦
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PostPosted: Wed May 25, 2022 5:40 pm    Post subject:

Butler: 57 games, 21.4 ppg, 5.9 reb, 5.5 assists
Lebron: 56 games, 30.3 ppg, 8.2 reb, 6.2 assists


"LEBRON STOLE VOTES FROM JIMMY BUTLER"

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PostPosted: Wed May 25, 2022 11:54 pm    Post subject:

epic_ wrote:
yinoma2001 wrote:
Only Lakers fans can be mad that one of its players made All NBA.


So sad.


You have two or three guys who like to spend all day in LG, reminding everyone over and over again that they don't like LeBron and have never liked him.

They've pretty much become white noise at this point.
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epic_ wrote:
yinoma2001 wrote:
Only Lakers fans can be mad that one of its players made All NBA.


So sad.


You have two or three guys who like to spend all day in LG, reminding everyone over and over again that they don't like LeBron and have never liked him.

They've pretty much become white noise at this point.
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epic_ wrote:
yinoma2001 wrote:
Only Lakers fans can be mad that one of its players made All NBA.


So sad.


You have two or three guys who like to spend all day in LG, reminding everyone over and over again that they don't like LeBron and have never liked him.

They've pretty much become white noise at this point.
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PostPosted: Thu May 26, 2022 2:05 am    Post subject:

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Butler: 57 games, 21.4 ppg, 5.9 reb, 5.5 assists
Lebron: 56 games, 30.3 ppg, 8.2 reb, 6.2 assists


"LEBRON STOLE VOTES FROM JIMMY BUTLER"

lmao


Jimmy's team was #1 in the East
Lebron's superteam was #11 in the West

Lebron selected to the All-NBA team is a joke and an embarrassment
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PostPosted: Thu May 26, 2022 5:20 am    Post subject:

JUST-MING wrote:
pjiddy wrote:
Butler: 57 games, 21.4 ppg, 5.9 reb, 5.5 assists
Lebron: 56 games, 30.3 ppg, 8.2 reb, 6.2 assists


"LEBRON STOLE VOTES FROM JIMMY BUTLER"

lmao


Jimmy's team was #1 in the East
Lebron's superteam was #11 in the West

Lebron selected to the All-NBA team is a joke and an embarrassment


All NBA isn't usually based on team records. And the voters (and a lot of them picked LBJ).
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PostPosted: Thu May 26, 2022 5:32 am    Post subject:

Lebron is def still a top 15 player, probably top 10. He's the best player in the NBA for a game or two, but then physically he has to take off games for going all out. That's why his value falls. Him making all-NBA teams is certainly justifiable in my eyes. And I still want him traded, because I think he is the one we can get value for, and he is the one most likely to just walk in FA because he knows the importance of a 5th ring in his legacy. Appreciate Lebron big time, to be playing at this level at this stage of his career.
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PostPosted: Thu May 26, 2022 2:14 pm    Post subject:

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Lebron is def still a top 15 player, probably top 10. He's the best player in the NBA for a game or two, but then physically he has to take off games for going all out. That's why his value falls. Him making all-NBA teams is certainly justifiable in my eyes. And I still want him traded, because I think he is the one we can get value for, and he is the one most likely to just walk in FA because he knows the importance of a 5th ring in his legacy. Appreciate Lebron big time, to be playing at this level at this stage of his career.


I pretty much the feel the same, i'm indifferent about Bron staying or going at this point and if we can get some good value back i'm all in for that option especially with Russ clearing the books after next season. Some here are getting way into there feelings and deflecting that dislike into Bron like it makes sense at all.. If we're talking just last year i'd still take him over Butler as the better player and he's easily top 10-15 still so not much of a stretch he grabbed an All-NBA spot especially when you factor in reputation and for how long he's been doing it which absolutely happens with voters as well and is nothing remotely new.
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PostPosted: Thu May 26, 2022 2:20 pm    Post subject:

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Klutch controlled media.



Sure, that’s why Anthony Davis, Draymond Green, Zach LaVine and Dejounte Murray all made the all-NBA team because Klutch forced the media to vote for them and… oh, never mind.
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PostPosted: Thu May 26, 2022 3:22 pm    Post subject:

Klutch’s goal is to become the biggest, most powerful sports+media agency in the world.

They want to be Boras on steroids. This is why they have ventured into NFL and executive/coaching/media for their clients.

LeBron is the face of Klutch so food chain starts with him and trickles down, but it’s pretty clear what the motive of Klutch is…and their spin on it is to have the players be more powerful than the franchises/organizations employing their clients. For example, Lebron, Simmons, Lavine, etc.

They have made it so not only do their top end guys get paid, but they also have the power on when they feel like playing or not playing…
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LakerSD wrote:
it’s pretty clear what the motive of Klutch is…and their spin on it is to have the players be more powerful than the franchises/organizations employing their clients. For example, Lebron, Simmons, Lavine, etc.


I'm wouldn't say that's unique to Klutch. You have seen the same thing from plenty of players not associated with Klutch -- Chris Paul, Kyrie Irving, Westbrook, Harden. But Lebron is the face of player empowerment.

The notion of NBA players being employees is outdated. The superstars are more like their own corporations that contract their services to a particular franchise for a specific period of time. They will exert whatever pressure they can to get what they want.

And that is the job of a sports agency -- to get their clients what they want.

I don't see that changing. It's not clear that the owners have the ability to negotiate a CBA that will dismiss player empowerment.
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https://twitter.com/kingjames/status/1530349624220844033?s=21&t=u-Uh6XxaqX3Q5uSM2KJz_Q

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