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bandiger Franchise Player
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Posted: Tue Jul 11, 2017 9:33 pm Post subject: |
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Doc JC wrote: | AY2043 wrote: | bandiger wrote: | Doc JC wrote: | Practice wrote: | The stats guys on twitter are killing him. |
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Cranjis McBasketball twitter (@T1m_NBA ). He is killing my good vibes although the positives are he's above average on catch and shoot and PnR scoring |
I mean honestly though, the alternatives at 2 were Hart and JC. Surely KCP is a better option than those two. And there weren't any other decent FA's of note |
I don't think it's even in question. KCP's ability (supposedly) to guard the opposing teams best G and lock him down ALONE makes this a huge signing. His highlights clearly show he will have the ability to run and finish at the rim.
The big question mark is if he will be able to shoot a high enough % from 3 to really make him valuable. |
As long as the shots are open, he hits them consistently from last season. Its the contested ones that he should avoid w/ Ball here expect great improvement |
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2019 Franchise Player
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Posted: Tue Jul 11, 2017 9:35 pm Post subject: |
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Yong wrote: | Only 3 years older than DLO FYI. |
I don't think there is any comparison in talent levels... like not even remotely... but he is still young, plays great D, can be a 15ppg scorer, and his shot seems to be improving.
Could have done far worse. |
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The Lebrons Star Player
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Posted: Tue Jul 11, 2017 9:35 pm Post subject: |
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A+ signing given the options available. Major props to Magic and Pelinka for closing this. |
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CRoost Star Player
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Posted: Tue Jul 11, 2017 9:37 pm Post subject: |
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So does Avery Bradley but my eye test view Pope as an outlier. |
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FanOfFour Star Player
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Posted: Tue Jul 11, 2017 9:40 pm Post subject: |
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CRoost wrote: |
So does Avery Bradley but my eye test view Pope as an outlier. |
Yep, and let's be real here, if advanced stats were all that mattered, why bother scouting? Both ideologies complement each other. That being said, without even looking at the numbers, he's a better defender than anyone who played the 2 last season for the Lakers. That in and of itself is a big upgrade. |
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ingle Starting Rotation
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Posted: Tue Jul 11, 2017 9:40 pm Post subject: |
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Bravo Maglinka
Best free agent signing we could have made, 3 and D exactly what we needed.
It sucked losing DLo, but given we'll enter this season with a better roster than last season, and also dumped one of our albatrosses I'll give this off-season a B+, could be A+ if the 2 maxes plan comes to fruition.
Lonzo
KCP
Ingram
Randle
Lopez
With a bench of
Clarkson
Hart
Kuzma
Nance
Nance
ZuBryant
I like our team a lot, think we're going to surprise some people |
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defense Retired Number
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Posted: Tue Jul 11, 2017 9:41 pm Post subject: |
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Who's out to make up the remaining salary?
Clarkson? |
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CervantesRises Star Player
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Posted: Tue Jul 11, 2017 9:41 pm Post subject: |
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FanOfFour wrote: | CRoost wrote: |
So does Avery Bradley but my eye test view Pope as an outlier. |
Yep, and let's be real here, if advanced stats were all that mattered, why bother scouting? Both ideologies complement each other. That being said, without even looking at the numbers, he's a better defender than anyone who played the 2 last season for the Lakers. That in and of itself is a big upgrade. |
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VocabuLaker Star Player
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Posted: Tue Jul 11, 2017 9:45 pm Post subject: |
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Sentient Meat wrote: | Does anyone know whether he has a nickname... or do they just call him Kentavious? |
Perhaps a list of nicknames should be made?
Clark Kent ? |
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alexamerling43 Starting Rotation
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Posted: Tue Jul 11, 2017 9:46 pm Post subject: |
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Great addition. I didn't think we would actually get him, especially not on a one year deal. Great signing! |
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LakerLanny Retired Number
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Posted: Tue Jul 11, 2017 9:47 pm Post subject: |
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He will get a lot of nice in rhythm open looks from Lonzo.
There is no doubt Lonzo is great at that so I think KCP could very well improve his shooting as he should benefit from some great passes. _________________ Love, Laker Lanny |
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ringfinger Retired Number
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Posted: Tue Jul 11, 2017 9:47 pm Post subject: |
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VocabuLaker wrote: | Sentient Meat wrote: | Does anyone know whether he has a nickname... or do they just call him Kentavious? |
Perhaps a list of nicknames should be made?
Clark Kent ? |
The Vatican. |
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Doc JC Star Player
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Posted: Tue Jul 11, 2017 9:48 pm Post subject: |
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I get the metrics and everything, but man, watching him dog Harden and Curry in games tell another story. He clearly has the athleticism to be a lock down defender, granted you won't see him on the wing due to size. |
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socalsp3 Star Player
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Posted: Tue Jul 11, 2017 9:48 pm Post subject: |
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bandiger wrote: | Doc JC wrote: | AY2043 wrote: | bandiger wrote: | Doc JC wrote: | Practice wrote: | The stats guys on twitter are killing him. |
Please elaborate |
Cranjis McBasketball twitter (@T1m_NBA ). He is killing my good vibes although the positives are he's above average on catch and shoot and PnR scoring |
I mean honestly though, the alternatives at 2 were Hart and JC. Surely KCP is a better option than those two. And there weren't any other decent FA's of note |
I don't think it's even in question. KCP's ability (supposedly) to guard the opposing teams best G and lock him down ALONE makes this a huge signing. His highlights clearly show he will have the ability to run and finish at the rim.
The big question mark is if he will be able to shoot a high enough % from 3 to really make him valuable. |
As long as the shots are open, he hits them consistently from last season. Its the contested ones that he should avoid w/ Ball here expect great improvement |
35% on 3s. already the best on the team. |
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Doc JC Star Player
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Posted: Tue Jul 11, 2017 9:49 pm Post subject: |
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LakerLanny wrote: | He will get a lot of nice in rhythm open looks from Lonzo.
There is no doubt Lonzo is great at that so I think KCP could very well improve his shooting as he should benefit from some great passes. |
According to the Detroit guys he was shooting over 40% last year until he got an injury (late January?) and seemingly never recovered the rest of the season. |
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socalsp3 Star Player
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Posted: Tue Jul 11, 2017 9:49 pm Post subject: |
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defense wrote: | Who's out to make up the remaining salary?
Clarkson? |
Nwaba is nonguaranteed |
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Posted: Tue Jul 11, 2017 9:50 pm Post subject: |
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socalsp3 wrote: | defense wrote: | Who's out to make up the remaining salary?
Clarkson? |
Nwaba is nonguaranteed |
That would suck |
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Practice Star Player
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Posted: Tue Jul 11, 2017 9:51 pm Post subject: |
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socalsp3 wrote: | bandiger wrote: | Doc JC wrote: | AY2043 wrote: | bandiger wrote: | Doc JC wrote: | Practice wrote: | The stats guys on twitter are killing him. |
Please elaborate |
Cranjis McBasketball twitter (@T1m_NBA ). He is killing my good vibes although the positives are he's above average on catch and shoot and PnR scoring |
I mean honestly though, the alternatives at 2 were Hart and JC. Surely KCP is a better option than those two. And there weren't any other decent FA's of note |
I don't think it's even in question. KCP's ability (supposedly) to guard the opposing teams best G and lock him down ALONE makes this a huge signing. His highlights clearly show he will have the ability to run and finish at the rim.
The big question mark is if he will be able to shoot a high enough % from 3 to really make him valuable. |
As long as the shots are open, he hits them consistently from last season. Its the contested ones that he should avoid w/ Ball here expect great improvement |
35% on 3s. already the best on the team. |
That is not a good thing lol.
Hopefully he and some others can surpass that. |
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Posted: Tue Jul 11, 2017 9:52 pm Post subject: |
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Welcome to the Lakers! I hope you have a career year! _________________ Nobody in the NBA can touch the Laker brand, which, like the uniform color, is pure gold. |
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Baron Von Humongous Retired Number
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Posted: Tue Jul 11, 2017 9:53 pm Post subject: |
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ringfinger wrote: | VocabuLaker wrote: | Sentient Meat wrote: | Does anyone know whether he has a nickname... or do they just call him Kentavious? |
Perhaps a list of nicknames should be made?
Clark Kent ? |
The Vatican. |
Winner
#theVaticanfromdeep |
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CRoost Star Player
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Posted: Tue Jul 11, 2017 9:53 pm Post subject: |
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FanOfFour wrote: | CRoost wrote: |
So does Avery Bradley but my eye test view Pope as an outlier. |
Yep, and let's be real here, if advanced stats were all that mattered, why bother scouting? Both ideologies complement each other. That being said, without even looking at the numbers, he's a better defender than anyone who played the 2 last season for the Lakers. That in and of itself is a big upgrade. |
They are both valuable but drawing a narrative on one without using the other is just inconclusive to me.
As far as our prior 2 defense. It's not even close. Im glad Magic are weeding them out one by one.
Creating positive vibes.
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CamReddish Star Player
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Posted: Tue Jul 11, 2017 9:55 pm Post subject: |
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Baron Von Humongous wrote: | ringfinger wrote: | VocabuLaker wrote: | Sentient Meat wrote: | Does anyone know whether he has a nickname... or do they just call him Kentavious? |
Perhaps a list of nicknames should be made?
Clark Kent ? |
The Vatican. |
Winner
#theVaticanfromdeep |
Lol. I said to call Staples the Vatican in the other thread. Only if The Pope plays well. _________________ Previously LBJ23 |
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AY2043 Franchise Player
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Posted: Tue Jul 11, 2017 10:00 pm Post subject: |
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defense wrote: | socalsp3 wrote: | defense wrote: | Who's out to make up the remaining salary?
Clarkson? |
Nwaba is nonguaranteed |
That would suck |
If we cut him we can re-sign him to the minimum as long as he clears waivers. He makes roughly the minimum now, so he'd likely be open to it |
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defense Retired Number
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Posted: Tue Jul 11, 2017 10:01 pm Post subject: |
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AY2043 wrote: | defense wrote: | socalsp3 wrote: | defense wrote: | Who's out to make up the remaining salary?
Clarkson? |
Nwaba is nonguaranteed |
That would suck |
If we cut him we can re-sign him to the minimum as long as he clears waivers. He makes roughly the minimum now, so he'd likely be open to it |
We need that perimeter defense |
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vicman Star Player
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Posted: Tue Jul 11, 2017 10:06 pm Post subject: |
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Pope twitter says lakers guard #5 did hart give it up |
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