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Baron Von Humongous
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Posted: Tue Jun 22, 2021 6:39 pm Post subject:

leor_77 wrote:

Wow, so Cade going to Detroit.

Good for the Pistons. Last time they moved up they missed on LeBron and selected Darko. Cade should be a star/potential superstar for them.
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Posted: Tue Jun 22, 2021 6:41 pm Post subject:

LakerMindLA wrote:

Wonder what Warriors do with 7, 14 and Wiseman.
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If they include their own lightly protected future picks, they have the best star trade package available. Do they want to go all in on Curry?
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Posted: Tue Jun 22, 2021 6:42 pm Post subject:

Baron Von Humongous wrote:

mixtim wrote:

Rockets getting screwed it's always a good thing

They were very lightly screwed for their tank job.

its bananas how much they are on the hook for Wall. 2yrs at at 40+. Unmovable, maybe they can package him with#2 for something.

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Posted: Tue Jun 22, 2021 6:44 pm Post subject:

Good team for Cade to go to as well. They have nobody besides Grant, so he can pretty much do what he wants with the green light he will automatically receive. _________________ Darvin Scam: https://media.tenor.com/images/3c15249955860a4b16b59e8ae035fb75/tenor.gif

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Posted: Tue Jun 22, 2021 6:46 pm Post subject:

Megaton wrote:

Good team for Cade to go to as well. They have nobody besides Grant, so he can pretty much do what he wants with the green light he will automatically receive.

I like their young corps. Hayes, Stewart, Bey, Lee.

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Posted: Tue Jun 22, 2021 8:14 pm Post subject:

mixtim wrote:

Rockets getting screwed it's always a good thing

Screwed with the #2 pick, when it was a 48% chance it would be #18? Screw me some more please. Dream never lets us down.

Team also couldn't have properly tanked with Simmons.

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Posted: Tue Jun 22, 2021 8:19 pm Post subject:

Halflife wrote:

Baron Von Humongous wrote:

mixtim wrote:

Rockets getting screwed it's always a good thing

They were very lightly screwed for their tank job.

its bananas how much they are on the hook for Wall. 2yrs at at 40+. Unmovable, maybe they can package him with#2 for something.

No need to dump him. The team is rebuilding and he helps the tank process.

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Posted: Tue Jun 22, 2021 8:22 pm Post subject:

Dreamshake wrote:

Halflife wrote:

Baron Von Humongous wrote:

mixtim wrote:

Rockets getting screwed it's always a good thing

They were very lightly screwed for their tank job.

its bananas how much they are on the hook for Wall. 2yrs at at 40+. Unmovable, maybe they can package him with#2 for something.

No need to dump him. The team is rebuilding and he helps the tank process.

I know but 40 for 2 more is steep. Especially since both parties don’t seem to want each other.

Is the #2 a guarantee? Feels like they could gets some good pieces

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Posted: Tue Jun 22, 2021 8:25 pm Post subject:

Halflife wrote:

Is the #2 a guarantee? Feels like they could gets some good pieces

You never know with this owner.

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Posted: Tue Jun 22, 2021 8:26 pm Post subject:

Baron Von Humongous wrote:

mixtim wrote:

Rockets getting screwed it's always a good thing

They were very lightly screwed for their tank job.

Rockets got the 2nd pick and are likely drafting 7 Foot, DPOY, Player of the Year, Freshman of the Year, explosive center Evan Mobley who will then be working extensively with Hakeem.

I think the Rockets are fine, considering the circumstances.
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Posted: Tue Jun 22, 2021 8:33 pm Post subject:

Don Draper wrote:

Megaton wrote:

Good team for Cade to go to as well. They have nobody besides Grant, so he can pretty much do what he wants with the green light he will automatically receive.

I like their young corps. Hayes, Stewart, Bey, Lee.

They're going to suck for another 1 or 2 years, but if they play their cards right, and keep drafting well in those couple of years, they could certainly be dangerous.
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Posted: Tue Jun 22, 2021 8:36 pm Post subject:

cam payne is a UFA...just saying

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Posted: Tue Jun 22, 2021 8:37 pm Post subject:

LGFan wrote:

cam payne is a UFA...just saying

His stock is going way up.
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Posted: Tue Jun 22, 2021 8:43 pm Post subject:

If we can identify players like Kuzma, Hart, Zubac, LNJ, THT, Thomas Bryant, Clarkson low in the draft... I don't get why people think we are helpless to identify a Cam Payne like value to replace Schroder. We went years with only one or two bust picks. I'm not saying we shouldn't sign Schroder (we've been through that hundreds of times today) I'm saying there's a limit to how much he can hold us hostage for. IF he refuses to budge on a reasonable offer. I'd believe in our front office's ability to find someone.

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Posted: Tue Jun 22, 2021 8:49 pm Post subject:

BILBJH wrote:

If we can identify players like Kuzma, Hart, Zubac, LNJ, THT, Thomas Bryant, Clarkson low in the draft... I don't get why people think we are helpless to identify a Cam Payne like value to replace Schroder.

We went years with only one or two bust picks.

I'm not saying we shouldn't sign Schroder (we've been through that hundreds of times today) I'm saying there's a limit to how much he can hold us hostage for.

IF he refuses to budge on a reasonable offer.

I'd believe in our front office's ability to find someone.

could you please tell us what u think is a reasonable offer without just bashing this guy constantly?

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Posted: Tue Jun 22, 2021 8:49 pm Post subject:

A PG rotation of Ben Simmons and Derrick Rose would be awesome.

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Posted: Tue Jun 22, 2021 8:54 pm Post subject:

LGFan wrote:

BILBJH wrote:

could you please tell us what u think is a reasonable offer without just bashing this guy constantly?

I can live with 18 million.

There are about three prolific posters here who are continuously propping Schroder up. If they shut up about him... then so will I.

I'm just trying to provide balance to the discussion.

I think Dennis is a good player. A good sixth man.

I just don't want to pay him 20 million plus.

I understand the reality of the situation... I realize if we can get him at a tradeable price that he will be of great benefit to the team.

I also realize that if we fail to find someone that he will be a serviceable point guard that will help guide us into the playoffs.

I just don't think with declining LBJ that he will get us to a title.

Maybe he'll prove me wrong... but in the meantime... sue me for aspiring for better.

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Posted: Tue Jun 22, 2021 8:56 pm Post subject:

BILBJH wrote:

LGFan wrote:

BILBJH wrote:

could you please tell us what u think is a reasonable offer without just bashing this guy constantly?

the contract is not signed. i think u are just hating prematurely on this guy

let the chips fall and then we will see

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Posted: Tue Jun 22, 2021 8:58 pm Post subject:

LGFan wrote:

BILBJH wrote:

LGFan wrote:

BILBJH wrote:

could you please tell us what u think is a reasonable offer without just bashing this guy constantly?

the contract is not signed. i think u are just hating prematurely on this guy

let the chips fall and then we will see

Again, if those posters stop propping him up... I will stop with the opposing perspective.

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Posted: Tue Jun 22, 2021 9:01 pm Post subject:

BILBJH wrote:

Again, if those posters stop propping him up... I will stop with the opposing perspective.

huh? this logic is messed up

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Posted: Tue Jun 22, 2021 9:09 pm Post subject:

LGFan wrote:

BILBJH wrote:

Again, if those posters stop propping him up... I will stop with the opposing perspective.

huh? this logic is messed up

It was worse before you joined. Once Schroder sh*t the bed in the playoffs they kind of chilled.

I've never said Dennis wasn't a good player... I just said I thought we could do better... but we cannot trade him if we overpay him too far.

If he returns to his OKC form and starts shooting 38% from three, I'll be fine with him. I like his fiery attitude.

When we first traded for him I was happy.

Then he demanded to start... his shooting was erratic during the regular season... then he turned down the 21 million per year contract... then he messed up with his Covid protocol... then I heard he was asking for 100 million... then he pulled the stunt with his Instagram the day we lost.

I didn't just decide one day to randomly pick on the guy... his attitude alienated me.

When I watched Cam Payne's interview tonight... it made me wish we had a player like him instead. But if you like Schroder... that is your right... not all of us have to share your feelings.

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Posted: Tue Jun 22, 2021 9:39 pm Post subject:

Halflife wrote:

Baron Von Humongous wrote:

mixtim wrote:

Rockets getting screwed it's always a good thing

They were very lightly screwed for their tank job.

its bananas how much they are on the hook for Wall. 2yrs at at 40+. Unmovable, maybe they can package him with#2 for something.

I think they'd rather pay Wall for 2 years than Westbrook for 3.

They're not going to surrender the #2 pick just to get rid of him.

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Posted: Tue Jun 22, 2021 10:04 pm Post subject:

activeverb wrote:

Halflife wrote:

Baron Von Humongous wrote:

mixtim wrote:

Rockets getting screwed it's always a good thing

They were very lightly screwed for their tank job.

its bananas how much they are on the hook for Wall. 2yrs at at 40+. Unmovable, maybe they can package him with#2 for something.

I think they'd rather pay Wall for 2 years than Westbrook for 3.

They're not going to surrender the #2 pick just to get rid of him.

For a rebuilding team, Wall's contract will turn into an asset. There will always be a worse contract that Houston can take on for additional draft capital.

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Posted: Tue Jun 22, 2021 10:07 pm Post subject:

32 wrote:

LGFan wrote:

cam payne is a UFA...just saying

His stock is going way up.

Hopefully, Payne and Reggie get overpaid.
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Posted: Tue Jun 22, 2021 10:24 pm Post subject:

LakerMindLA wrote:

activeverb wrote:

Halflife wrote:

Baron Von Humongous wrote:

mixtim wrote:

Rockets getting screwed it's always a good thing

They were very lightly screwed for their tank job.

its bananas how much they are on the hook for Wall. 2yrs at at 40+. Unmovable, maybe they can package him with#2 for something.

I think they'd rather pay Wall for 2 years than Westbrook for 3.

They're not going to surrender the #2 pick just to get rid of him.

For a rebuilding team, Wall's contract will turn into an asset. There will always be a worse contract that Houston can take on for additional draft capital.

That's one option. Or if some of their current picks pan out, they could sign some free agents themselves and have a good team.

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