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Inspector Gadget
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| I don’t see how people aren’t exciting about Jerami Grant.. a legit 18-20PPG scorer that will help decrease the load on LeBron and Davis and can help us guard Curry/Booker/Harden and the other top tier scorers |
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logical24
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| Inspector Gadget wrote: | | I don’t see how people aren’t exciting about Jerami Grant.. a legit 18-20PPG scorer that will help decrease the load on LeBron and Davis and can help us guard Curry/Booker/Harden and the other top tier scorers |
Not to mention only 27 years old. |
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LakerMindLA
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Does it really matter who the Lakers trade for if WB is still on the team.
You could trade for Steph or Durant and if WB is still getting starter minutes, the team would still suck. |
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danzag
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| Posted: Sun Jan 16, 2022 11:15 am Post subject: |
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| LakerMindLA wrote: | Does it really matter who the Lakers trade for if WB is still on the team.
You could trade for Steph or Durant and if WB is still getting starter minutes, the team would still suck. |
This.
Maybe we should John-Wall him |
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Bron2AD
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| Posted: Sun Jan 16, 2022 11:17 am Post subject: |
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| LakerMindLA wrote: | Does it really matter who the Lakers trade for if WB is still on the team.
You could trade for Steph or Durant and if WB is still getting starter minutes, the team would still suck. |
It really doesn't matter. Westbrook needs to be outta here |
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lakersfever714
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| Posted: Sun Jan 16, 2022 11:21 am Post subject: |
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| Yea, Westbrook for Simmons. We'd go from bottom feeder to NBA Champs just like in 2019. Do it Mitch. |
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venturalakersfan
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| Posted: Sun Jan 16, 2022 11:28 am Post subject: |
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| LakerMindLA wrote: | Does it really matter who the Lakers trade for if WB is still on the team.
You could trade for Steph or Durant and if WB is still getting starter minutes, the team would still suck. |
Westbrook is a problem but not the biggest problem. Lakers sold at least a decade of mediocrity for one title.
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Laker4lifer4real
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| Posted: Sun Jan 16, 2022 11:53 am Post subject: |
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| venturalakersfan wrote: | | LakerMindLA wrote: | Does it really matter who the Lakers trade for if WB is still on the team.
You could trade for Steph or Durant and if WB is still getting starter minutes, the team would still suck. |
Westbrook is a problem but not the biggest problem. Lakers sold at least a decade of mediocrity for one title. |
That’s the way the NBA is.
1987, 1988 champs
2000-2002 3-peat
2009-2010 champs
2020 champs
I guess we should have been built for more than one before the next drought though….. |
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mad55557777
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| Posted: Sun Jan 16, 2022 11:59 am Post subject: |
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| venturalakersfan wrote: | | LakerMindLA wrote: | Does it really matter who the Lakers trade for if WB is still on the team.
You could trade for Steph or Durant and if WB is still getting starter minutes, the team would still suck. |
Westbrook is a problem but not the biggest problem. Lakers sold at least a decade of mediocrity for one title. |
Like 2010-2020? Sounds about right, and I’d do it again. |
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mad55557777
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| Posted: Sun Jan 16, 2022 12:00 pm Post subject: |
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| lakersfever714 wrote: | | Yea, Westbrook for Simmons. We'd go from bottom feeder to NBA Champs just like in 2019. Do it Mitch. |
Simmons is not that good, |
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Bron2AD
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| mad55557777 wrote: | | lakersfever714 wrote: | | Yea, Westbrook for Simmons. We'd go from bottom feeder to NBA Champs just like in 2019. Do it Mitch. |
Simmons is not that good, |
Doesn't matter. Multiple reports saying Morey has no interest in Westbrook |
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mad55557777
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| Dennis100mtrash wrote: | | mad55557777 wrote: | | lakersfever714 wrote: | | Yea, Westbrook for Simmons. We'd go from bottom feeder to NBA Champs just like in 2019. Do it Mitch. |
Simmons is not that good, |
Doesn't matter. Multiple reports saying Morey has no interest in Westbrook |
Obviously, but we are still going to see 100 unrealistic trade proposals from now until deadline involving Russ. |
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venturalakersfan
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| mad55557777 wrote: | | venturalakersfan wrote: | | LakerMindLA wrote: | Does it really matter who the Lakers trade for if WB is still on the team.
You could trade for Steph or Durant and if WB is still getting starter minutes, the team would still suck. |
Westbrook is a problem but not the biggest problem. Lakers sold at least a decade of mediocrity for one title. |
Like 2010-2020? Sounds about right, and I’d do it again. |
Doing it this time without one of the most innovative minds in the league, Jerry Buss. The optics from his kids aren’t promising.
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Swagron12
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| mad55557777 wrote: | | Dennis100mtrash wrote: | | mad55557777 wrote: | | lakersfever714 wrote: | | Yea, Westbrook for Simmons. We'd go from bottom feeder to NBA Champs just like in 2019. Do it Mitch. |
Simmons is not that good, |
Doesn't matter. Multiple reports saying Morey has no interest in Westbrook |
Obviously, but we are still going to see 100 unrealistic trade proposals from now until deadline involving Russ. |
Agreed, but I don’t understand the motivation to posting and responding to unrealistic trades. Just feels like a waste of everyone’s time and space. |
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RI Laker
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| Unfortunately, the only Buss kid thats worth anything is Jesse. The scouting department has been the strength of the organization. I don't know how much influence he has (Irving Thomas), but there is no denying the overall success and consistency of the scouting department. |
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| Posted: Sun Jan 16, 2022 12:21 pm Post subject: |
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| Inspector Gadget wrote: | | I don’t see how people aren’t exciting about Jerami Grant.. a legit 18-20PPG scorer that will help decrease the load on LeBron and Davis and can help us guard Curry/Booker/Harden and the other top tier scorers |
You get excited over about everyone. If you take a hard look at Jerami Grant, he isn't anything special. He's not a particularly good shooter. He takes a lot of shots on a bad team, but his efficiency is average. This TS% is below league average. He's a power forward who doesn't rebound much. His TRB% for this year is 7.8. That's slightly better than THT. The metrics rate him as average to below average defender.
To sum it up, his baseball card makes him look a lot better than he is. He's a 20 point scorer! Yes, he is. On the Pistons. I will grant you (pun intended) that he might be an upgrade for us, but that is only because we have a gaping hole at PF and SF. But if anyone gets excited about the idea of adding him to the roster, get ready for a disappointment.
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| Posted: Sun Jan 16, 2022 12:37 pm Post subject: |
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| RI Laker wrote: | | Unfortunately, the only Buss kid thats worth anything is Jesse. The scouting department has been the strength of the organization. I don't know how much influence he has (Irving Thomas), but there is no denying the overall success and consistency of the scouting department. |
Agree 100% with you....... Jesse.
I knew the buss boys were in here.
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| #savethekids wrote: | | RI Laker wrote: | | Unfortunately, the only Buss kid thats worth anything is Jesse. The scouting department has been the strength of the organization. I don't know how much influence he has (Irving Thomas), but there is no denying the overall success and consistency of the scouting department. |
Agree 100% with you....... Jesse.
I knew the buss boys were in here.
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I would argue that Janie is the only smart one, she knew enough to stay out of the family business.
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At this point I probably don’t make a trade because to get anyone that would help at all it would…
A) Not be enough to make a significant difference.
B) Would cost a 1st round pick when we are on the verge of a rebuild after next season.
And if we are going into a rebuild, we might as well hold onto a 21 year old THT and see how he does over the next 2-3 years. |
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| anth2000 wrote: | Is Jerami Grant the new LG flavor of the month? He’s like Buddy Hield part 2.
Is he the savior for this team?
I find him mediocre at best
What am I missing? |
While i think he would be a nice add, in terms of what ails this team its probably akin to spitting in the ocean - not really gonna change much there.
I say this in part tongue in cheek but Aeneas said if we added Grant be prepared to be dissapointed. Well if Russ was outbound on that deal…🤪
I know, I know. Aint happening, except in nba 2k.
Going to be rough days ahead folks for Laker fans. Batton down the hatches.
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I liked Grant’s defense in Denver but he wants to be the man like some have said, he won’t be satisfied with that role. He definitely won’t make Lebron younger or AD durable, and those are two problems with this team.
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| Posted: Sun Jan 16, 2022 1:03 pm Post subject: |
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| Inspector Gadget wrote: | | I don’t see how people aren’t exciting about Jerami Grant.. a legit 18-20PPG scorer that will help decrease the load on LeBron and Davis and can help us guard Curry/Booker/Harden and the other top tier scorers |
They are not excited because they fear it will not be WB going out. It will be THT, Monk, Reaves, 2026 FRP, and stuff like that to get it done. Then you improve a little bit at the wing, but WB issues remain.
Nothing is resolved until you first admint WB has to move on, or be John Wall'ed for us. The Lakers may get to this point, now that Magic is calling them out.
I think if we were presented with a deal where WB went out, Grant came in, and also 1 bad contract attached to Grant, while we send out WB and a protected 2026 FRP, the large majority of this board would jump for joy. |
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| Laker4lifer4real wrote: | | venturalakersfan wrote: | | LakerMindLA wrote: | Does it really matter who the Lakers trade for if WB is still on the team.
You could trade for Steph or Durant and if WB is still getting starter minutes, the team would still suck. |
Westbrook is a problem but not the biggest problem. Lakers sold at least a decade of mediocrity for one title. |
That’s the way the NBA is.
1987, 1988 champs
2000-2002 3-peat
2009-2010 champs
2020 champs
I guess we should have been built for more than one before the next drought though….. |
The first three were very competitive for years before and after those titles.
The 80s Lakers were a Finals contender for a decade and should have won more if not for some bad injury luck.
The shaq/Kobe Lakers were a forced breakup.
Kobe/Pau went to three straight Finals.
This team had one postseason run
An injury-marred season with a first round exit
And now it’s over.
So no, this is not the way it always goes. It’s how it goes when you have an especially incompetent ownership/front office. |
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| pjiddy wrote: | | Laker4lifer4real wrote: | | venturalakersfan wrote: | | LakerMindLA wrote: | Does it really matter who the Lakers trade for if WB is still on the team.
You could trade for Steph or Durant and if WB is still getting starter minutes, the team would still suck. |
Westbrook is a problem but not the biggest problem. Lakers sold at least a decade of mediocrity for one title. |
That’s the way the NBA is.
1987, 1988 champs
2000-2002 3-peat
2009-2010 champs
2020 champs
I guess we should have been built for more than one before the next drought though….. |
The first three were very competitive for years before and after those titles.
The 80s Lakers were a Finals contender for a decade and should have won more if not for some bad injury luck.
The shaq/Kobe Lakers were a forced breakup.
Kobe/Pau went to three straight Finals.
This team had one postseason run
An injury-marred season with a first round exit
And now it’s over.
So no, this is not the way it always goes. It’s how it goes when you have an especially incompetent ownership/front office. |
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| Aeneas Hunter wrote: | | Inspector Gadget wrote: | | I don’t see how people aren’t exciting about Jerami Grant.. a legit 18-20PPG scorer that will help decrease the load on LeBron and Davis and can help us guard Curry/Booker/Harden and the other top tier scorers |
You get excited over about everyone. If you take a hard look at Jerami Grant, he isn't anything special. He's not a particularly good shooter. He takes a lot of shots on a bad team, but his efficiency is average. This TS% is below league average. He's a power forward who doesn't rebound much. His TRB% for this year is 7.8. That's slightly better than THT. The metrics rate him as average to below average defender.
To sum it up, his baseball card makes him look a lot better than he is. He's a 20 point scorer! Yes, he is. On the Pistons. I will grant you (pun intended) that he might be an upgrade for us, but that is only because we have a gaping hole at PF and SF. But if anyone gets excited about the
idea of adding him to the roster, get ready for a disappointment. |
With the assets we have unless we decide to blow it up, getting Grant should excite us because it will only take THT and Nunn.... you better hope that trade happens before another team jumps in with a better offer |
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