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PostPosted: Sun May 15, 2022 12:41 pm    Post subject:

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And you would think that this is the same organization that won before. It isn’t, Jerry Buss is gone and they now have his brain dead kids.


The Lakers won the 2020 NBA Championship under the ownership group led by Jeanie Buss.
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And you would think that this is the same organization that won before. It isn’t, Jerry Buss is gone and they now have his brain dead kids.


The Lakers won the 2020 NBA Championship under the ownership group led by Jeanie Buss.


So you think that Jeanie can be as successful as Dr. Buss? One abnormal title doesn’t erase years of being in the lottery.
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PostPosted: Sun May 15, 2022 12:52 pm    Post subject:

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And you would think that this is the same organization that won before. It isn’t, Jerry Buss is gone and they now have his brain dead kids.


The Lakers won the 2020 NBA Championship under the ownership group led by Jeanie Buss.


So you think that Jeanie can be as successful as Dr. Buss? One abnormal title doesn’t erase years of being in the lottery.


She's no Jerry Buss but you've been watching basketball long enough to know how the league/buusiness of the NBA/ownership has changed over the years.
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DeeAgeaux wrote:
venturalakersfan wrote:

And you would think that this is the same organization that won before. It isn’t, Jerry Buss is gone and they now have his brain dead kids.


The Lakers won the 2020 NBA Championship under the ownership group led by Jeanie Buss.


So you think that Jeanie can be as successful as Dr. Buss? One abnormal title doesn’t erase years of being in the lottery.


She's no Jerry Buss but you've been watching basketball long enough to know how the league/buusiness of the NBA/ownership has changed over the years.


It has changed but the Laker FO hasn’t accepted that change. They hired Byron Scott, he’s about as anti-2022 as you can get in the NBA.
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PostPosted: Sun May 15, 2022 1:22 pm    Post subject:

AD to Milwaukee for Brook Lopez and Middleton
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PostPosted: Sun May 15, 2022 1:55 pm    Post subject:

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AD to Milwaukee for Brook Lopez and Middleton


AD + Giannis would be fun
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PostPosted: Sun May 15, 2022 1:57 pm    Post subject:

epic_ wrote:
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AD to Milwaukee for Brook Lopez and Middleton


AD + Giannis would be fun


And would make their team worse.
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PostPosted: Sun May 15, 2022 1:57 pm    Post subject:

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2019 wrote:
venturalakersfan wrote:
DeeAgeaux wrote:
venturalakersfan wrote:

And you would think that this is the same organization that won before. It isn’t, Jerry Buss is gone and they now have his brain dead kids.


The Lakers won the 2020 NBA Championship under the ownership group led by Jeanie Buss.


So you think that Jeanie can be as successful as Dr. Buss? One abnormal title doesn’t erase years of being in the lottery.


She's no Jerry Buss but you've been watching basketball long enough to know how the league/buusiness of the NBA/ownership has changed over the years.


It has changed but the Laker FO hasn’t accepted that change. They hired Byron Scott, he’s about as anti-2022 as you can get in the NBA.



em, Scott was under Jim & Mitch... but true.
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PostPosted: Sun May 15, 2022 1:58 pm    Post subject:

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epic_ wrote:
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AD to Milwaukee for Brook Lopez and Middleton


AD + Giannis would be fun


And would make their team worse.


You mean Milwaukee would be worse?
If AD isn't healthy, sure.
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PostPosted: Sun May 15, 2022 2:16 pm    Post subject:

deal wrote:
venturalakersfan wrote:
2019 wrote:
venturalakersfan wrote:
DeeAgeaux wrote:
venturalakersfan wrote:

And you would think that this is the same organization that won before. It isn’t, Jerry Buss is gone and they now have his brain dead kids.


The Lakers won the 2020 NBA Championship under the ownership group led by Jeanie Buss.


So you think that Jeanie can be as successful as Dr. Buss? One abnormal title doesn’t erase years of being in the lottery.


She's no Jerry Buss but you've been watching basketball long enough to know how the league/buusiness of the NBA/ownership has changed over the years.


It has changed but the Laker FO hasn’t accepted that change. They hired Byron Scott, he’s about as anti-2022 as you can get in the NBA.



em, Scott was under Jim & Mitch... but true.


Jeanie was still in charge
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PostPosted: Sun May 15, 2022 2:27 pm    Post subject:

ChickenStu wrote:
epic_ wrote:
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AD to Milwaukee for Brook Lopez and Middleton


AD + Giannis would be fun


And would make our team worse while handing Milwaukee a Championship.


Fixed.
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PostPosted: Sun May 15, 2022 2:39 pm    Post subject:

venturalakersfan wrote:
deal wrote:
venturalakersfan wrote:
2019 wrote:
venturalakersfan wrote:
DeeAgeaux wrote:
venturalakersfan wrote:

And you would think that this is the same organization that won before. It isn’t, Jerry Buss is gone and they now have his brain dead kids.


The Lakers won the 2020 NBA Championship under the ownership group led by Jeanie Buss.


So you think that Jeanie can be as successful as Dr. Buss? One abnormal title doesn’t erase years of being in the lottery.


She's no Jerry Buss but you've been watching basketball long enough to know how the league/buusiness of the NBA/ownership has changed over the years.


It has changed but the Laker FO hasn’t accepted that change. They hired Byron Scott, he’s about as anti-2022 as you can get in the NBA.



em, Scott was under Jim & Mitch... but true.


Jeanie was still in charge


NOT. Jeanie took over Op's after the well published Buss kids agreed
to ditch Jim.
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PostPosted: Sun May 15, 2022 2:46 pm    Post subject:

My updated version: AD + THT to the Bucks for Lopez/Middleton/Pat Connaughton and picks
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PostPosted: Sun May 15, 2022 2:48 pm    Post subject:

epic_ wrote:
ChickenStu wrote:
epic_ wrote:
Inspector Gadget wrote:
AD to Milwaukee for Brook Lopez and Middleton


AD + Giannis would be fun


And would make their team worse.


You mean Milwaukee would be worse?
If AD isn't healthy, sure.


How does Holiday, Giannis, and AD work at the end of games? Where is the shooting? Middleton not only provides them with shooting but is also their best defensive wing, easily. Their team would be worse, unless you think they can just pull off other deals for much-needed shooters and wings who can play both ways. Middleton's injury exposed how big the DiVincenzo loss was for the Bucks, as they really could've used what he brought to the table.

Yes, now add in AD's injury issues, and I don't think the Bucks would make that deal. Nor should they. Nor would we offer it, anyway.
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PostPosted: Sun May 15, 2022 2:55 pm    Post subject:

ChickenStu wrote:
epic_ wrote:
ChickenStu wrote:
epic_ wrote:
Inspector Gadget wrote:
AD to Milwaukee for Brook Lopez and Middleton


AD + Giannis would be fun


And would make their team worse.


You mean Milwaukee would be worse?
If AD isn't healthy, sure.


How does Holiday, Giannis, and AD work at the end of games? Where is the shooting? Middleton not only provides them with shooting but is also their best defensive wing, easily. Their team would be worse, unless you think they can just pull off other deals for much-needed shooters and wings who can play both ways. Middleton's injury exposed how big the DiVincenzo loss was for the Bucks, as they really could've used what he brought to the table.

Yes, now add in AD's injury issues, and I don't think the Bucks would make that deal. Nor should they. Nor would we offer it, anyway.


The level of dominance that both Giannis and AD would provide would off set any issues, the Bucks love Middleton but I could see them being intrigued with the idea of a twin tower front court with AD and Giannis.
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PostPosted: Sun May 15, 2022 2:58 pm    Post subject:

Inspector Gadget wrote:
My updated version: AD + THT to the Bucks for Lopez/Middleton/Pat Connaughton and picks


What is this bottom shelf level of thinking people are at? IG you're better than that.

Unless you're going to trade both LeBron and AD, or can can some major haul for either, you keep em and find better/younger/hungrier players around them.

Kyle Anderson - TMLE
Russ for mixed parts (I like Knicks type package of Fournier, Burks, Kemba) then combine Kemba + THT to get someone like Oubre or add a pick to get Harrison Barnes type guy. Maybe add Nunn for Brogdon. Seek out young guys on minimums who can fill out the rotation... Damien Jones type guys.
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PostPosted: Sun May 15, 2022 3:08 pm    Post subject:

2019 wrote:
Inspector Gadget wrote:
My updated version: AD + THT to the Bucks for Lopez/Middleton/Pat Connaughton and picks


What is this bottom shelf level of thinking people are at? IG you're better than that.

Unless you're going to trade both LeBron and AD, or can can some major haul for either, you keep em and find better/younger/hungrier players around them.

Kyle Anderson - TMLE
Russ for mixed parts (I like Knicks type package of Fournier, Burks, Kemba) then combine Kemba + THT to get someone like Oubre or add a pick to get Harrison Barnes type guy. Maybe add Nunn for Brogdon. Seek out young guys on minimums who can fill out the rotation... Damien Jones type guys.


Lopez and Middleton + picks isn’t a major haul? Lopez is a Impact big, Middleton is a all star level type guy who can sometimes carry you’re team when he’s the focal point of the offense... I have no idea what a major haul is supposed to mean but that package is a clear haul.
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PostPosted: Sun May 15, 2022 3:14 pm    Post subject:

Inspector Gadget wrote:
2019 wrote:
Inspector Gadget wrote:
My updated version: AD + THT to the Bucks for Lopez/Middleton/Pat Connaughton and picks


What is this bottom shelf level of thinking people are at? IG you're better than that.

Unless you're going to trade both LeBron and AD, or can can some major haul for either, you keep em and find better/younger/hungrier players around them.

Kyle Anderson - TMLE
Russ for mixed parts (I like Knicks type package of Fournier, Burks, Kemba) then combine Kemba + THT to get someone like Oubre or add a pick to get Harrison Barnes type guy. Maybe add Nunn for Brogdon. Seek out young guys on minimums who can fill out the rotation... Damien Jones type guys.


Lopez and Middleton + picks isn’t a major haul? Lopez is a Impact big, Middleton is a all star level type guy who can sometimes carry you’re team when he’s the focal point of the offense... I have no idea what a major haul is supposed to mean but that package is a clear haul.


Impact big that had 0 impact against the Celtics? 😂

Old man horford was more impressive then sloth lopez
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PostPosted: Sun May 15, 2022 3:17 pm    Post subject:

Dennis100mtrash wrote:
Inspector Gadget wrote:
2019 wrote:
Inspector Gadget wrote:
My updated version: AD + THT to the Bucks for Lopez/Middleton/Pat Connaughton and picks


What is this bottom shelf level of thinking people are at? IG you're better than that.

Unless you're going to trade both LeBron and AD, or can can some major haul for either, you keep em and find better/younger/hungrier players around them.

Kyle Anderson - TMLE
Russ for mixed parts (I like Knicks type package of Fournier, Burks, Kemba) then combine Kemba + THT to get someone like Oubre or add a pick to get Harrison Barnes type guy. Maybe add Nunn for Brogdon. Seek out young guys on minimums who can fill out the rotation... Damien Jones type guys.


Lopez and Middleton + picks isn’t a major haul? Lopez is a Impact big, Middleton is a all star level type guy who can sometimes carry you’re team when he’s the focal point of the offense... I have no idea what a major haul is supposed to mean but that package is a clear haul.


Impact big that had 0 impact against the Celtics? 😂

Old man horford was more impressive then sloth lopez


https://www.nba.com/news/bucks-center-brook-lopez-undergoes-back-surgery-out-indefinitely?amp=1

He clearly wasn’t himself after coming back from major back problems
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PostPosted: Sun May 15, 2022 3:22 pm    Post subject:

Inspector Gadget wrote:
Dennis100mtrash wrote:
Inspector Gadget wrote:
2019 wrote:
Inspector Gadget wrote:
My updated version: AD + THT to the Bucks for Lopez/Middleton/Pat Connaughton and picks


What is this bottom shelf level of thinking people are at? IG you're better than that.

Unless you're going to trade both LeBron and AD, or can can some major haul for either, you keep em and find better/younger/hungrier players around them.

Kyle Anderson - TMLE
Russ for mixed parts (I like Knicks type package of Fournier, Burks, Kemba) then combine Kemba + THT to get someone like Oubre or add a pick to get Harrison Barnes type guy. Maybe add Nunn for Brogdon. Seek out young guys on minimums who can fill out the rotation... Damien Jones type guys.


Lopez and Middleton + picks isn’t a major haul? Lopez is a Impact big, Middleton is a all star level type guy who can sometimes carry you’re team when he’s the focal point of the offense... I have no idea what a major haul is supposed to mean but that package is a clear haul.


Impact big that had 0 impact against the Celtics? 😂

Old man horford was more impressive then sloth lopez


https://www.nba.com/news/bucks-center-brook-lopez-undergoes-back-surgery-out-indefinitely?amp=1

He clearly wasn’t himself after coming back from major back problems


So why we would trade for him?

The goal is to not trade just for the sake of trading.
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PostPosted: Sun May 15, 2022 3:25 pm    Post subject:

Dennis100mtrash wrote:
Inspector Gadget wrote:
Dennis100mtrash wrote:
Inspector Gadget wrote:
2019 wrote:
Inspector Gadget wrote:
My updated version: AD + THT to the Bucks for Lopez/Middleton/Pat Connaughton and picks


What is this bottom shelf level of thinking people are at? IG you're better than that.

Unless you're going to trade both LeBron and AD, or can can some major haul for either, you keep em and find better/younger/hungrier players around them.

Kyle Anderson - TMLE
Russ for mixed parts (I like Knicks type package of Fournier, Burks, Kemba) then combine Kemba + THT to get someone like Oubre or add a pick to get Harrison Barnes type guy. Maybe add Nunn for Brogdon. Seek out young guys on minimums who can fill out the rotation... Damien Jones type guys.


Lopez and Middleton + picks isn’t a major haul? Lopez is a Impact big, Middleton is a all star level type guy who can sometimes carry you’re team when he’s the focal point of the offense... I have no idea what a major haul is supposed to mean but that package is a clear haul.


Impact big that had 0 impact against the Celtics? 😂

Old man horford was more impressive then sloth lopez


https://www.nba.com/news/bucks-center-brook-lopez-undergoes-back-surgery-out-indefinitely?amp=1

He clearly wasn’t himself after coming back from major back problems


So why we would trade for him?

The goal is to not trade just for the sake of trading.


Lopez has had back issues for years now but he’s done a good job taking care of it most of the time, tell me which player is 100% healthy these days with the COVID and injury issues?
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PostPosted: Sun May 15, 2022 3:26 pm    Post subject:

Inspector Gadget wrote:
2019 wrote:
Inspector Gadget wrote:
My updated version: AD + THT to the Bucks for Lopez/Middleton/Pat Connaughton and picks


What is this bottom shelf level of thinking people are at? IG you're better than that.

Unless you're going to trade both LeBron and AD, or can can some major haul for either, you keep em and find better/younger/hungrier players around them.

Kyle Anderson - TMLE
Russ for mixed parts (I like Knicks type package of Fournier, Burks, Kemba) then combine Kemba + THT to get someone like Oubre or add a pick to get Harrison Barnes type guy. Maybe add Nunn for Brogdon. Seek out young guys on minimums who can fill out the rotation... Damien Jones type guys.


Lopez and Middleton + picks isn’t a major haul? Lopez is a Impact big, Middleton is a all star level type guy who can sometimes carry you’re team when he’s the focal point of the offense... I have no idea what a major haul is supposed to mean but that package is a clear haul.


Lopez is a MLE level big at best. In fact, I'd take McGee over him. Middleton is a lanky defender who can shoot.. ideal third guy but being forced into the role of a #2.

How you call that a haul for AD, even at his current value, is crazy.

Next summer of AD plays 40 games again, then consider a move where you sell for pennies on there dollar.
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PostPosted: Sun May 15, 2022 3:32 pm    Post subject:

2019 wrote:
Inspector Gadget wrote:
2019 wrote:
Inspector Gadget wrote:
My updated version: AD + THT to the Bucks for Lopez/Middleton/Pat Connaughton and picks


What is this bottom shelf level of thinking people are at? IG you're better than that.

Unless you're going to trade both LeBron and AD, or can can some major haul for either, you keep em and find better/younger/hungrier players around them.

Kyle Anderson - TMLE
Russ for mixed parts (I like Knicks type package of Fournier, Burks, Kemba) then combine Kemba + THT to get someone like Oubre or add a pick to get Harrison Barnes type guy. Maybe add Nunn for Brogdon. Seek out young guys on minimums who can fill out the rotation... Damien Jones type guys.


Lopez and Middleton + picks isn’t a major haul? Lopez is a Impact big, Middleton is a all star level type guy who can sometimes carry you’re team when he’s the focal point of the offense... I have no idea what a major haul is supposed to mean but that package is a clear haul.


Lopez is a MLE level big at best. In fact, I'd take McGee over him. Middleton is a lanky defender who can shoot.. ideal third guy but being forced into the role of a #2.

How you call that a haul for AD, even at his current value, is crazy.

Next summer of AD plays 40 games again, then consider a move where you sell for pennies on there dollar.


I thought of the possibility when the Bucks were getting blown out haha
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PostPosted: Sun May 15, 2022 3:42 pm    Post subject:

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One abnormal title doesn’t erase years of being in the lottery.


While I'm not a huge fan of Jeanie, that is a bit unfair. The Lakers were bound to be in the lottery for a long time given that they had just traded away all their assets to get Howard and Nash... Only to have Nash be injured on opening night, Kobe blow his achilles, and Dwight leave in free agency. There was no avoiding the rebuild.
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PostPosted: Sun May 15, 2022 3:46 pm    Post subject:

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One abnormal title doesn’t erase years of being in the lottery.


While I'm not a huge fan of Jeanie, that is a bit unfair. The Lakers were bound to be in the lottery for a long time given that they had just traded away all their assets to get Howard and Nash... Only to have Nash be injured on opening night, Kobe blow his achilles, and Dwight leave in free agency. There was no avoiding the rebuild.


It’s abnormal title to only bitter clippers fan who were 1 of the favorites but quit in the bubble
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