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PostPosted: Sun May 02, 2021 6:31 am    Post subject:

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Denver is 9-1 since Jamal went down. NBA fans overrate players like Murray and Donovan Mitchell because their offense is flashy.


Maybe but it’s also true when the game gets tight, them guys get buckets, same with Bron and AD for us
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PostPosted: Sun May 02, 2021 1:10 pm    Post subject:

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Denver is 9-1 since Jamal went down. NBA fans overrate players like Murray and Donovan Mitchell because their offense is flashy.


Game is completely different in the playoffs. Half court sets, limited breaks. They will miss Jamal immensely in the postseason.
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PostPosted: Sun May 02, 2021 1:35 pm    Post subject:

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Denver is 9-1 since Jamal went down. NBA fans overrate players like Murray and Donovan Mitchell because their offense is flashy.


They were 8-2 before that against much tougher opponents so this argument is invalid. Anyways, a 10-game or 20-game sample size is still too small to come to any conclusion. We know Murray is good from watching him in the playoffs last year. That's what counts. If we met the Nuggets in the playoffs, I would much rather not face him. Our team is looking like they might need an easy, tune-up series to get their motors going.
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PostPosted: Sun May 02, 2021 1:51 pm    Post subject:

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PenG_ wrote:
Denver is 9-1 since Jamal went down. NBA fans overrate players like Murray and Donovan Mitchell because their offense is flashy.


They were 8-2 before that against much tougher opponents so this argument is invalid. Anyways, a 10-game or 20-game sample size is still too small to come to any conclusion. We know Murray is good from watching him in the playoffs last year. That's what counts. If we met the Nuggets in the playoffs, I would much rather not face him. Our team is looking like they might need an easy, tune-up series to get their motors going.


Yeah he'll have big games like anyone else, but his overall impact is fairly replaceable.
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PostPosted: Sun May 02, 2021 2:04 pm    Post subject:

That 9-1 is much MPJ .
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PostPosted: Sun May 02, 2021 2:08 pm    Post subject:

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Denver is 9-1 since Jamal went down. NBA fans overrate players like Murray and Donovan Mitchell because their offense is flashy.


Maybe but it’s also true when the game gets tight, them guys get buckets, same with Bron and AD for us


Or instead of going "See this proves Jamal Murray is overrated!" they should be saying "Wow look at how good Michael Porter Jr has gotten..."
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PostPosted: Sun May 02, 2021 2:41 pm    Post subject:

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governator wrote:
PenG_ wrote:
Denver is 9-1 since Jamal went down. NBA fans overrate players like Murray and Donovan Mitchell because their offense is flashy.


Maybe but it’s also true when the game gets tight, them guys get buckets, same with Bron and AD for us


Or instead of going "See this proves Jamal Murray is overrated!" they should be saying "Wow look at how good Michael Porter Jr has gotten..."


The emergence of MPJ made the Nuggets a serious contender for the chip imo. He just makes that team so dynamic and they were looking great after getting Gordon to help on the Wing.

They probably won’t win it all now that Murray got hurt, but prior the injury they were legit and even without Murray if a team underestimates them; they still have enough to win a couple of series.
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PostPosted: Sun May 02, 2021 3:29 pm    Post subject:

With LeBron declaring that he won’t be 100% in his career that could sway the FO to look for another star, next season might be the season LeBron really starts to catch up to Father Time.
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PostPosted: Sun May 02, 2021 3:34 pm    Post subject:

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With LeBron declaring that he won’t be 100% in his career that could sway the FO to look for another star, next season might be the season LeBron really starts to catch up to Father Time.


I watched that interview after people went crazy about his quote. Seemed like a passive comment about the overall effect of aging/injury, rather than saying this particular injury took away something significant that he won't get back.
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PostPosted: Sun May 02, 2021 3:45 pm    Post subject:

Really good article on the Laker's mediocre post game, despite having Lebron, AD, Trez, and now Drummond.

https://www.bball-index.com/the-lakers-have-a-post-problem/
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PostPosted: Sun May 02, 2021 4:02 pm    Post subject:

PenG_ wrote:
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With LeBron declaring that he won’t be 100% in his career that could sway the FO to look for another star, next season might be the season LeBron really starts to catch up to Father Time.


I watched that interview after people went crazy about his quote. Seemed like a passive comment about the overall effect of aging/injury, rather than saying this particular injury took away something significant that he won't get back.

The minute a player has the same injury more than once they will never be 100 ever again
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PostPosted: Sun May 02, 2021 10:31 pm    Post subject:

Anyone don't want Lowry lol

Much rather have him than Schroeder.

Pelinka knows!
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PostPosted: Sun May 02, 2021 10:52 pm    Post subject:

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Anyone don't want Lowry lol

Much rather have him than Schroeder.

Pelinka knows!


Schroeder has played better Lowry since the trade deadline though.

He puts up the same numbers as Lowry but for 20 million less.
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PostPosted: Sun May 02, 2021 10:55 pm    Post subject:

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Anyone don't want Lowry lol

Much rather have him than Schroeder.

Pelinka knows!


Schroeder has played better Lowry since the trade deadline though.

He puts up the same numbers as Lowry but for 20 million less.


Lowry has intangibles you can't value.

Plus Lowry won't be making the same money next yr.
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PostPosted: Sun May 02, 2021 11:04 pm    Post subject:

PenG_ wrote:
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With LeBron declaring that he won’t be 100% in his career that could sway the FO to look for another star, next season might be the season LeBron really starts to catch up to Father Time.


I watched that interview after people went crazy about his quote. Seemed like a passive comment about the overall effect of aging/injury, rather than saying this particular injury took away something significant that he won't get back.

People really need to watch the actual interview. He was not talking about this injury caused him never be able to 100%. It is Father Time.
He was not 100% compare to his physical prime either last season.
We just need to be 100% of what he can be physically at the moment.
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PostPosted: Mon May 03, 2021 12:38 am    Post subject:

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PenG_ wrote:
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With LeBron declaring that he won’t be 100% in his career that could sway the FO to look for another star, next season might be the season LeBron really starts to catch up to Father Time.


I watched that interview after people went crazy about his quote. Seemed like a passive comment about the overall effect of aging/injury, rather than saying this particular injury took away something significant that he won't get back.

People really need to watch the actual interview. He was not talking about this injury caused him never be able to 100%. It is Father Time.
He was not 100% compare to his physical prime either last season.
We just need to be 100% of what he can be physically at the moment.


Even if he’s 100% the FO might need to look for another scoring option to lessen the burden on LeBron, next year might be the season he really starts to show his age.
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PostPosted: Mon May 03, 2021 5:28 am    Post subject:

Reminds me of when James Worthy’s play fell off a cliff

Bad ankle sprain. Lakers destroyed in 1991 Finals by Jordan.

Then he had knee surgery

Lost all his quickness spin moves dunks

Started shooting threes and lefty hook shots

Then he retired



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PenG_ wrote:
Inspector Gadget wrote:
With LeBron declaring that he won’t be 100% in his career that could sway the FO to look for another star, next season might be the season LeBron really starts to catch up to Father Time.


I watched that interview after people went crazy about his quote. Seemed like a passive comment about the overall effect of aging/injury, rather than saying this particular injury took away something significant that he won't get back.

People really need to watch the actual interview. He was not talking about this injury caused him never be able to 100%. It is Father Time.
He was not 100% compare to his physical prime either last season.
We just need to be 100% of what he can be physically at the moment.


Even if he’s 100% the FO might need to look for another scoring option to lessen the burden on LeBron, next year might be the season he really starts to show his age.[/quote]
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PostPosted: Mon May 03, 2021 5:41 am    Post subject:

It was back to the Finals again 1991, thanks to Worthy's team-leading and career high 21.4 ppg and the addition of former Tarheel star Sam Perkins. Unfortunately, Worthy suffered a high ankle sprain in Game 5 of the Western Conference Finals against the Blazers and was very limited heading into the Finals against the Bulls. Despite LA pulling out a Game 1 victory in Chicago, it ultimately wasn't enough against a surging Chicago Bulls squad led by his former college teammate Michael Jordan. The Lakers ultimately fell in five games and Worthy sat out Game 5 after re-injuring the ankle in Game 4.
It would be Worthy's last chance at a fourth ring. Magic Johnson's sudden retirement in November 1991 threw the Lakers franchise for a loop. Injuries and high mileage soon spelled the end for Worthy. The high ankle injury during the 1991 playoffs and season-ending knee surgery in 1992 had robbed much of his quickness and leaping ability. After struggling with knee pain in the 1994–95 preseason, Worthy announced his retirement in November 1994, after 12 seasons in the NBA.
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PostPosted: Mon May 03, 2021 6:23 am    Post subject:

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Anyone don't want Lowry lol

Much rather have him than Schroeder.

Pelinka knows!


Schroeder has played better Lowry since the trade deadline though.

He puts up the same numbers as Lowry but for 20 million less.


Lowry has intangibles you can't value.

Plus Lowry won't be making the same money next yr.


I was ok with Lowry for Dennis/KCP. But they also wanted THT. So no. We would have been decimated losing 2 starters and a key reserve.
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PostPosted: Mon May 03, 2021 9:20 am    Post subject:

Posting in Inspector General

Lebron maybe doesn't want Dennis back now, vaccination...?
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PostPosted: Mon May 03, 2021 9:25 am    Post subject:

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I was ok with Lowry for Dennis/KCP. But they also wanted THT. So no. We would have been decimated losing 2 starters and a key reserve.


Yep adding THT is major overpay. Masai is a top executive for a reason, he took a shot at seeing if Pelinka would get desperate and pull a Magic.
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PostPosted: Mon May 03, 2021 3:31 pm    Post subject:

Twitter has some weird takes, the first 1 saw said if you rather have Siakam/OG Anunoby or AD lol.
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PostPosted: Mon May 03, 2021 4:05 pm    Post subject:

This ESPN-Marvel telecast between Warriors/Pelicans is different. My 5 year old is getting a kick out of it though, it’s like NBA Jam he says.
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PostPosted: Mon May 03, 2021 4:19 pm    Post subject:

AD23 wrote:
MJST wrote:
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Anyone don't want Lowry lol

Much rather have him than Schroeder.

Pelinka knows!


Schroeder has played better Lowry since the trade deadline though.

He puts up the same numbers as Lowry but for 20 million less.


Lowry has intangibles you can't value.

Plus Lowry won't be making the same money next yr.


Lowry's intangibles sure did not do much for Toronto without Kawhi. Lowry's game is similar to most borderline stars and scrubs: pop off against the Lakers to try to get yourself a new contract that you do not deserve.
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PostPosted: Mon May 03, 2021 8:49 pm    Post subject:

The offseason is an eternity away but please Lakers, get a stretch center please. It’s a simple formula.
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