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KingKobe20
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| pokoy wrote: | This is it. Gut the team if you have to.
Anyone but Bron. We’ve got 3 years left to compete. |
An by then will be signing Free agent Giannis Antetokounmpo 😈😈😈😈😈😈 |
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LongBeachPoly
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| Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2019 8:01 am Post subject: |
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| "basketball reasons" part deux |
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LakerLanny
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| Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2019 8:01 am Post subject: |
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Make it happen Maglinka, anyone but LeBron.
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LakerLanny
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| Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2019 8:03 am Post subject: |
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| pokoy wrote: | This is it. Gut the team if you have to.
Anyone but Bron. We’ve got 3 years left to compete. |
Beat me to it.
This honestly is how I feel. You pair the two superstars and build around them with veteran role players, the youth movement isn't going to get it done in the Western Conference.
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| Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2019 8:03 am Post subject: |
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| this is perfect, Zu's value is at all time high. Pelicans would definitely want a young big in return, who's out there right now better than Zu? |
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| Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2019 8:04 am Post subject: |
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Give em the house ( minus Lebron).
This shouldn’t even be a diuscussion.
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lakersfever714
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Is it tampering if Davis said he wanted to play for the Lakers only? If not, he should say it to make it easier on us. This time, it's not going to be another PG13 or KL. We WILL actually put together a package to trade for him but he needs to understand we can't give up our entire young core for him, then we wouldn't have enough role players to compete for a championship.
Outbidding Foston would be very costly so we'd want to avoid that if possible. The less the Lakers gave up to acquire Davis, the more it would benefit him.
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LakerLanny
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| Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2019 8:07 am Post subject: |
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Maybe try and get Mirotic in the deal also while we are at it?
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Four Decade Bandwagon
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| NBALakerLegends wrote: | KCP is a Rich Paul client and was open to a trade to the Suns for more PT. He would instantly start in the backcourt next to Jrue if traded.
My package would be BI, Kuz, KCP, Zu and Picks to get this done. We could keep Hart and Zo.
Zo/Rondo
Hart/Lance
Lebron/Svi
AD/Beasley/Wagner
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Whats funny about that roster is I would not be shocked if the Pels new roster overtook the Lakers in the standings.
Lakers would be w/o Ball for another 5 weeks and one lingering injury to AD, James or Rondo from a losing streak. God forbid both AD and James need a night off at the same time. |
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joeblow
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| Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2019 8:09 am Post subject: |
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People are over valuing Boston's potential package for one important reason: it is only a "potentail" package until a deal is done.
More specifically, does Ainge plan to include Tatum in a deal? If not, then their best offer is then highlighted by draft picks and middling players, which the Lakers can easily out bid with what they have if there are no untouchables.
For the Pels, perhaps a bird in the hand (Laker trade now for known assets) is worth the ones in the bush (Celtic trade in the summer that may or may not include Tatum). |
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danzag
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| Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2019 8:09 am Post subject: |
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Keep Lonzo
Trade everyone else not named LeBron |
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LakerLanny
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| Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2019 8:10 am Post subject: |
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| Four Decade Bandwagon wrote: | | NBALakerLegends wrote: | KCP is a Rich Paul client and was open to a trade to the Suns for more PT. He would instantly start in the backcourt next to Jrue if traded.
My package would be BI, Kuz, KCP, Zu and Picks to get this done. We could keep Hart and Zo.
Zo/Rondo
Hart/Lance
Lebron/Svi
AD/Beasley/Wagner
McGee/Chandler |
Whats funny about that roster is I would not be shocked if the Pels new roster overtook the Lakers in the standings.
Lakers would be w/o Ball for another 5 weeks and one lingering injury to AD, James or Rondo from a losing streak. God forbid both AD and James need a night off at the same time. |
To me, this trade would be more about next season than this season.
You get AD to pair with LeBron and then go to work with the cap space.
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| Fortysixn2 wrote: | | venturalakersfan wrote: | | Pelicans will wait until the offseason, Magic needs to go out and get more first round picks. |
The NBA players are a tight knit community. AD has demanded a trade, if they hold him hostage until the celts can deal its their right, but good luck signing a big name FA over the next 5 years. They are within their rights to do that, but they will need to weigh the pros and cons of holding one of the most popular and liked players hostage. |
I doubt that other NBA players would give a flip, but let's assume you're right. Do you actually think the Hornets are even remotely concerned about whether big name free agents will sign there because of this? I mean, the last big name free agent to sign with New Orleans was . . . um . . . I guess I'd need to go research that one.
The Pelicans need to maximize their value. The Pacers and Spurs have already shown us that other teams can and will ignore the desires of a player who wants to leave. Once Davis uttered those magic words, the Pelicans no longer had any need whatsoever to worry about what he wants or even what he thinks.
So the questions are (1) how much do the Pelicans value the assets that we can offer, (2) how willing are the Pelicans to deal with the Lakers at all in light the shenanigans by Magic and Lebron (legal or not), and (3) do the Pelicans think they can get a better deal next summer? Any other considerations are just noise. |
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| Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2019 8:13 am Post subject: |
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| Hindsight is 20/20, but if the Lakers brought back Randle, they can offer the best deal for AD even with Boston since randle is better than all the players Celtics can offer. |
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King Randle
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| Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2019 8:16 am Post subject: |
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| LakerLanny wrote: | | Four Decade Bandwagon wrote: | | NBALakerLegends wrote: | KCP is a Rich Paul client and was open to a trade to the Suns for more PT. He would instantly start in the backcourt next to Jrue if traded.
My package would be BI, Kuz, KCP, Zu and Picks to get this done. We could keep Hart and Zo.
Zo/Rondo
Hart/Lance
Lebron/Svi
AD/Beasley/Wagner
McGee/Chandler |
Whats funny about that roster is I would not be shocked if the Pels new roster overtook the Lakers in the standings.
Lakers would be w/o Ball for another 5 weeks and one lingering injury to AD, James or Rondo from a losing streak. God forbid both AD and James need a night off at the same time. |
To me, this trade would be more about next season than this season.
You get AD to pair with LeBron and then go to work with the cap space. |
Exactly Larry...It's all about next year. If you happen to get lucky and get on a streak this year great....but it's all about pairing Bron with AD, and getting another max next year. |
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KingKobe20
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| Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2019 8:16 am Post subject: |
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| LakerLanny wrote: | | Four Decade Bandwagon wrote: | | NBALakerLegends wrote: | KCP is a Rich Paul client and was open to a trade to the Suns for more PT. He would instantly start in the backcourt next to Jrue if traded.
My package would be BI, Kuz, KCP, Zu and Picks to get this done. We could keep Hart and Zo.
Zo/Rondo
Hart/Lance
Lebron/Svi
AD/Beasley/Wagner
McGee/Chandler |
Whats funny about that roster is I would not be shocked if the Pels new roster overtook the Lakers in the standings.
Lakers would be w/o Ball for another 5 weeks and one lingering injury to AD, James or Rondo from a losing streak. God forbid both AD and James need a night off at the same time. |
To me, this trade would be more about next season than this season.
You get AD to pair with LeBron and then go to work with the cap space. |
Pretty much.
Then we should hope it’ll be a Warriors/Raptors Finals where the Raps get crushed soo badly that Kawhi won’t even take Jerry West’s call to join the Clips.
Which would lead to him teaming up with Lebron and AD to get his revenge against GSW 😈😈😈 |
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danzag
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| Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2019 8:17 am Post subject: |
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| It's time for the league to pay for their basketball reasons. |
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The Lebrons
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| Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2019 8:17 am Post subject: |
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| New Orleans is not trading him here. What a waste of air the next two weeks are going to be. Rich Paul would have to go full mob boss to make this happen. |
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The Lebrons
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| Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2019 8:19 am Post subject: |
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| GoldenThroat wrote: | | Brad Turner (who's close with Magic Johnson) says that any deal has to start with Lonzo Ball, Kyle Kuzma, Ivica Zubac, and a first round pick. |
If we could someone keep Ingram...there has to be a team that still really likes him? |
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Showty
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| Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2019 8:19 am Post subject: |
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Deals/steals like Paul Gasol only happen once in a lifetime.
You are the Lakers and you actually have the chance of trading for Anthony Davis and you give NOLA whatever they ask for.
It´s this franchise story, it´s all about the stars.
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mad55557777
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| Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2019 8:19 am Post subject: |
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| lakersfever714 wrote: | Is it tampering if Davis said he wanted to play for the Lakers only? If not, he should say it to make it easier on us. This time, it's not going to be another PG13 or KL. We WILL actually put together a package to trade for him but he needs to understand we can't give up our entire young core for him, then we wouldn't have enough role players to compete for a championship.
Outbidding Foston would be very costly so we'd want to avoid that if possible. The less the Lakers gave up to acquire Davis, the more it would benefit him. |
The lakers have no competition until the summer, so this is basically if the pelicans accept the Lakers deal or not.
The other teams who can offer a good deal to the pels won’t be contending anytime soon.
Although if I am GS, I would offer Klay and Green |
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Using the math off the 1st page of the FA thread, LA would have about 20.66M to use in FA. That is after the roster holds in place of traded players.
I'd look to sign Rondo to the space exception, but look at a player like Middleton or Cousins to take the remainder. They could also hope Kemba and his super cap hold demands a trade too. They swap BI, with his deal and Kemba's 18M hold still leaves you 10M to spend next year.
2019-2020
Rondo
Middleton
Ingram
James
Davis
Hart
Wagner
Svi
Ring chasing big
Ring chasing guard
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lakurluv
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| Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2019 8:20 am Post subject: |
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I hope this deal gets done without Kuzma, being involved. I would really like a future where the Lakers have
Ball+Kuzma+Davis on the same team. There's still a lot of youth there.
The reason I list ball is simply because I can't see him being involved in the trade with Jrue Holiday on the Team. Jrue has game and is more serviceable than Ball right now especially with his injury.
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KCP+Ingram+Wagner+Hart+Zubac and picks or cash gets it done.
This gives NOLA a ton of flexibility and believe it or not, we may get KCP back in the off-season and signed to a long term deal, I wouldn't be surprised! |
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Sentient Meat
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| Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2019 8:21 am Post subject: |
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New Orleans... just... got... screwed... by... the... Rams... out... of... the...
Superbowl.
We will not likely get him without a severe overpay... although I'm praying the Brad Turner deal is doable.
Ideally they ask for too much and we sign an agent for free in the summer. |
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