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PostPosted: Fri Apr 09, 2021 9:15 am    Post subject:

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Something is up with this AD injury. I know Haynes said they expect AD before Lebron, but they seem to be tempering expectations and playing some transparency games with the reporting.

Vogel:

https://twitter.com/hmfaigen/status/1375617464109686786?s=21


AD is fine man...We are doing the RIGHT thing.

I would honestly become a fan of another team if they are stupid enough to bring out future star back early. Remember KD?? Klay?? Oladipo??

These guys don't take the right amount of time to recover...Problem is once you have one injury your body starts borrowing from other parts of your body and giving you issues. Look at KD having Hamstring issues...

AD take your time man do alot of swimming, biking, cardio...

When you ready we will be here!
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 09, 2021 9:48 am    Post subject:

scout_0 wrote:
LakerSD wrote:
Something is up with this AD injury. I know Haynes said they expect AD before Lebron, but they seem to be tempering expectations and playing some transparency games with the reporting.

Vogel:

https://twitter.com/hmfaigen/status/1375617464109686786?s=21


AD is fine man...We are doing the RIGHT thing.

I would honestly become a fan of another team if they are stupid enough to bring out future star back early. Remember KD?? Klay?? Oladipo??

These guys don't take the right amount of time to recover...Problem is once you have one injury your body starts borrowing from other parts of your body and giving you issues. Look at KD having Hamstring issues...

AD take your time man do alot of swimming, biking, cardio...

When you ready we will be here!


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PostPosted: Fri Apr 09, 2021 3:36 pm    Post subject:

AD on the way!!!

https://www.reddit.com/r/lakers/comments/mnt4ul/snippet_from_jovan_buha_of_the_athletics_article/
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 09, 2021 3:50 pm    Post subject:

scout_0 wrote:
LakerSD wrote:
Something is up with this AD injury. I know Haynes said they expect AD before Lebron, but they seem to be tempering expectations and playing some transparency games with the reporting.

Vogel:

https://twitter.com/hmfaigen/status/1375617464109686786?s=21


AD is fine man...We are doing the RIGHT thing.

I would honestly become a fan of another team if they are stupid enough to bring out future star back early. Remember KD?? Klay?? Oladipo??

These guys don't take the right amount of time to recover...Problem is once you have one injury your body starts borrowing from other parts of your body and giving you issues. Look at KD having Hamstring issues...

AD take your time man do alot of swimming, biking, cardio...

When you ready we will be here!


Don't do that!! . But, seriously, he either insisted that he was ok, or they did bring him back too early the first time he had issues with his leg. I recall very clearly that AD was not right when he experienced issues that at that time was undisclosed.

But I have little doubt that he came back too soon, and that led to the current extended stay on the disabled list. Bottom line is he needed more time when the issue first start plaguing him.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 10, 2021 4:13 pm    Post subject:

Actual update from a real source https://twitter.com/mcten/status/1381037293373435905?s=21
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 10, 2021 4:16 pm    Post subject:

Great freaking news, with AD coming back and LeBron ahead of schedule in his recovery I highly highly doubt we are gonna be playing in the play in tournament.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 10, 2021 4:19 pm    Post subject:

Feels like it has been 3 years since he played. Let’s (bleep) go.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 13, 2021 2:31 pm    Post subject:

If we replaced Anthony Davis and Kyle Kuzma on our current roster, with the youngsters that are gone (Russell, Lonzo, Randle, BI) given the years they've had.

Would we be a Championship contender still?

Starters:
Lonzo Ball
D'Angelo Russell
LeBron James
Julius Randle
Andre Drummond

Bench:
Alex Caruso
KCP / THT
Brandon Ingram / Wes
Montrezl Harrell
Marc Gasol

Is that a Championship contender?



Anyway, Anthony Davis whom we know we can win a Championship with, should be back within the next 2 weeks. Hope he stays healthy and that we're ALL healthy going into the playoffs and remain that way!
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 13, 2021 3:03 pm    Post subject:

3/12 - out 2 more weeks
4/12 - out 2 more weeks

(j/k) it's only 1 to 1.5 weeks.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 13, 2021 3:19 pm    Post subject:

MJST wrote:
If we replaced Anthony Davis and Kyle Kuzma on our current roster, with the youngsters that are gone (Russell, Lonzo, Randle, BI) given the years they've had.

Would we be a Championship contender still?

Starters:
Lonzo Ball
D'Angelo Russell
LeBron James
Julius Randle
Andre Drummond

Bench:
Alex Caruso
KCP / THT
Brandon Ingram / Wes
Montrezl Harrell
Marc Gasol

Is that a Championship contender?



Anyway, Anthony Davis whom we know we can win a Championship with, should be back within the next 2 weeks. Hope he stays healthy and that we're ALL healthy going into the playoffs and remain that way!


Depending on salaries, we'd have our pick of the best of those players plus some of the lesser players we gave up on cost controlled contracts plus all of our picks... #4 from last season and three future first rounders.

Don't get me wrong, I'm happy we won and caught the Celtics... but had we not won last season... it would have been a clusterf&ck of epic proportions.

Just because you win... doesn't mean you made the wisest decision. If you make that pass in the Super Bowl... it doesn't mean it was a smart call... just means you were fortunate. The right call was still Marshawn Lynch every time.

It's tiring to hear people justify a franchise crippling trade just because it worked out okay in the short term.

It's like someone who spends 100 dollars on the lottery every week who won telling you he was smarter than someone who invested 100 a week into a mutual fund.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 13, 2021 4:05 pm    Post subject:

MJST wrote:
If we replaced Anthony Davis and Kyle Kuzma on our current roster, with the youngsters that are gone (Russell, Lonzo, Randle, BI) given the years they've had.

Would we be a Championship contender still?

Starters:
Lonzo Ball
D'Angelo Russell
LeBron James
Julius Randle
Andre Drummond

Bench:
Alex Caruso
KCP / THT
Brandon Ingram / Wes
Montrezl Harrell
Marc Gasol

Is that a Championship contender?



Anyway, Anthony Davis whom we know we can win a Championship with, should be back within the next 2 weeks. Hope he stays healthy and that we're ALL healthy going into the playoffs and remain that way!

we are not a championship team without AD.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 13, 2021 4:18 pm    Post subject:

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we are not a championship team without AD.

I can see Ingram and Randle being the 3rd and 4th best player on a championship team. But neither are 2nd best player on a championship team level.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 13, 2021 8:19 pm    Post subject:

BILBJH wrote:
MJST wrote:
If we replaced Anthony Davis and Kyle Kuzma on our current roster, with the youngsters that are gone (Russell, Lonzo, Randle, BI) given the years they've had.

Would we be a Championship contender still?

Starters:
Lonzo Ball
D'Angelo Russell
LeBron James
Julius Randle
Andre Drummond

Bench:
Alex Caruso
KCP / THT
Brandon Ingram / Wes
Montrezl Harrell
Marc Gasol

Is that a Championship contender?



Anyway, Anthony Davis whom we know we can win a Championship with, should be back within the next 2 weeks. Hope he stays healthy and that we're ALL healthy going into the playoffs and remain that way!


Depending on salaries, we'd have our pick of the best of those players plus some of the lesser players we gave up on cost controlled contracts plus all of our picks... #4 from last season and three future first rounders.

Don't get me wrong, I'm happy we won and caught the Celtics... but had we not won last season... it would have been a clusterf&ck of epic proportions.

Just because you win... doesn't mean you made the wisest decision. If you make that pass in the Super Bowl... it doesn't mean it was a smart call... just means you were fortunate. The right call was still Marshawn Lynch every time.

It's tiring to hear people justify a franchise crippling trade just because it worked out okay in the short term.

It's like someone who spends 100 dollars on the lottery every week who won telling you he was smarter than someone who invested 100 a week into a mutual fund.


Not only did we win last year but we're a top contender this season and probably will be at minimum next season as well.. It was already well worth the trade, most franchises dream of winning a Championship over multiple decades or longer honestly (Look at the Cavs). With that squad we're likely much more of a Utah or Denver then favorites to win it again imo..

I still think we're clearly contenders though with those guys instead of AD but nowhere near as good when the rotations tighten and minutes lengthen for the best players in the Playoffs.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 13, 2021 9:10 pm    Post subject:

hype wrote:
BILBJH wrote:
MJST wrote:
If we replaced Anthony Davis and Kyle Kuzma on our current roster, with the youngsters that are gone (Russell, Lonzo, Randle, BI) given the years they've had.

Would we be a Championship contender still?

Starters:
Lonzo Ball
D'Angelo Russell
LeBron James
Julius Randle
Andre Drummond

Bench:
Alex Caruso
KCP / THT
Brandon Ingram / Wes
Montrezl Harrell
Marc Gasol

Is that a Championship contender?



Anyway, Anthony Davis whom we know we can win a Championship with, should be back within the next 2 weeks. Hope he stays healthy and that we're ALL healthy going into the playoffs and remain that way!


Depending on salaries, we'd have our pick of the best of those players plus some of the lesser players we gave up on cost controlled contracts plus all of our picks... #4 from last season and three future first rounders.

Don't get me wrong, I'm happy we won and caught the Celtics... but had we not won last season... it would have been a clusterf&ck of epic proportions.

Just because you win... doesn't mean you made the wisest decision. If you make that pass in the Super Bowl... it doesn't mean it was a smart call... just means you were fortunate. The right call was still Marshawn Lynch every time.

It's tiring to hear people justify a franchise crippling trade just because it worked out okay in the short term.

It's like someone who spends 100 dollars on the lottery every week who won telling you he was smarter than someone who invested 100 a week into a mutual fund.


Not only did we win last year but we're a top contender this season and probably will be at minimum next season as well.. It was already well worth the trade, most franchises dream of winning a Championship over multiple decades or longer honestly (Look at the Cavs). With that squad we're likely much more of a Utah or Denver then favorites to win it again imo..

I still think we're clearly contenders though with those guys instead of AD but nowhere near as good when the rotations tighten and minutes lengthen for the best players in the Playoffs.



Yeah, I mean if we added Schroeder to the bench 1 instead of Caruso. But I didn't think he'd realistically come here with Lonzo and Russell as clearly the starters.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 14, 2021 12:20 am    Post subject:

kikanga wrote:
Halflife wrote:

we are not a championship team without AD.

I can see Ingram and Randle being the 3rd and 4th best player on a championship team. But neither are 2nd best player on a championship team level.


That roster put forth by MJST would be very competitive. I think a 50ish win team in a normal season. Likely get beaten in second round.


"Vintage" AD provides an absolutely monstrous advantage on both ends of the Court. What he did to MIA in game 6 of the finals last year on the defensive end was just incredible...it's like he splits into two great defenders, but he is one person.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 14, 2021 6:28 am    Post subject:

LakersRGolden wrote:
3/12 - out 2 more weeks
4/12 - out 2 more weeks

(j/k) it's only 1 to 1.5 weeks.



Understand this is meant as friendly jest but this is a good point about injury recovery. Underestimating the time causes more anxiety and concern when the player isn't back. I've said from the beginning that I would be happy if AD came back by May 1. The bigger question is what will he look like when he gets back and will this recur or get worse when he tries to play. Achilles tendinosis is not a 2 or 4 week thing.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 14, 2021 6:44 am    Post subject:

BILBJH wrote:
MJST wrote:
If we replaced Anthony Davis and Kyle Kuzma on our current roster, with the youngsters that are gone (Russell, Lonzo, Randle, BI) given the years they've had.

Would we be a Championship contender still?

Starters:
Lonzo Ball
D'Angelo Russell
LeBron James
Julius Randle
Andre Drummond

Bench:
Alex Caruso
KCP / THT
Brandon Ingram / Wes
Montrezl Harrell
Marc Gasol

Is that a Championship contender?



Anyway, Anthony Davis whom we know we can win a Championship with, should be back within the next 2 weeks. Hope he stays healthy and that we're ALL healthy going into the playoffs and remain that way!


Depending on salaries, we'd have our pick of the best of those players plus some of the lesser players we gave up on cost controlled contracts plus all of our picks... #4 from last season and three future first rounders.

Don't get me wrong, I'm happy we won and caught the Celtics... but had we not won last season... it would have been a clusterf&ck of epic proportions.

Just because you win... doesn't mean you made the wisest decision. If you make that pass in the Super Bowl... it doesn't mean it was a smart call... just means you were fortunate. The right call was still Marshawn Lynch every time.

It's tiring to hear people justify a franchise crippling trade just because it worked out okay in the short term.

It's like someone who spends 100 dollars on the lottery every week who won telling you he was smarter than someone who invested 100 a week into a mutual fund.


I get what your saying but you make that trade even if we lost last season. You trade for legit stars to pair up with your star. The L.A way baby. As much as I love our young guys, they are all rotting on awful teams except maybe the Knicks this season. I'd still much rather have LBJ-AD for a few seasons than hope our players pan out and we make the playoffs lol.
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Quote:
Lonzo Ball
D'Angelo Russell
LeBron James
Julius Randle
Andre Drummond

Bench:
Alex Caruso
KCP / THT
Brandon Ingram / Wes
Montrezl Harrell
Marc Gasol


Why do we do this to ourselves? (and where is Kobe?)
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 14, 2021 7:17 am    Post subject:

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Quote:
Lonzo Ball
D'Angelo Russell
LeBron James
Julius Randle
Andre Drummond

Bench:
Alex Caruso
KCP / THT
Brandon Ingram / Wes
Montrezl Harrell
Marc Gasol


Why do we do this to ourselves? (and where is Kobe?)


Where is Tatum?
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 14, 2021 7:28 am    Post subject:

MJST wrote:
If we replaced Anthony Davis and Kyle Kuzma on our current roster, with the youngsters that are gone (Russell, Lonzo, Randle, BI) given the years they've had.

Would we be a Championship contender still?

Starters:
Lonzo Ball
D'Angelo Russell
LeBron James
Julius Randle
Andre Drummond

Bench:
Alex Caruso
KCP / THT
Brandon Ingram / Wes
Montrezl Harrell
Marc Gasol

Is that a Championship contender?


That's a wierd team for sure. I can't put anything past LBJ but I don't think that's a championship roster. Plus you have some massive EGO issues with Ingram and KCP coming off the bench.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 14, 2021 7:47 am    Post subject:

Vin wrote:
MJST wrote:
If we replaced Anthony Davis and Kyle Kuzma on our current roster, with the youngsters that are gone (Russell, Lonzo, Randle, BI) given the years they've had.

Would we be a Championship contender still?

Starters:
Lonzo Ball
D'Angelo Russell
LeBron James
Julius Randle
Andre Drummond

Bench:
Alex Caruso
KCP / THT
Brandon Ingram / Wes
Montrezl Harrell
Marc Gasol

Is that a Championship contender?


That's a wierd team for sure. I can't put anything past LBJ but I don't think that's a championship roster. Plus you have some massive EGO issues with Ingram and KCP coming off the bench.


It's also $185,000,000 in salaries.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 14, 2021 7:52 am    Post subject:

Dr. Laker wrote:
Vin wrote:
MJST wrote:
If we replaced Anthony Davis and Kyle Kuzma on our current roster, with the youngsters that are gone (Russell, Lonzo, Randle, BI) given the years they've had.

Would we be a Championship contender still?

Starters:
Lonzo Ball
D'Angelo Russell
LeBron James
Julius Randle
Andre Drummond

Bench:
Alex Caruso
KCP / THT
Brandon Ingram / Wes
Montrezl Harrell
Marc Gasol

Is that a Championship contender?


That's a wierd team for sure. I can't put anything past LBJ but I don't think that's a championship roster. Plus you have some massive EGO issues with Ingram and KCP coming off the bench.


It's also $185,000,000 in salaries.



Do you think the Buss family would have been willing to pay that or would they have traded guys away to cut costs?
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 14, 2021 8:38 am    Post subject:

CandyCanes wrote:
Dr. Laker wrote:
Vin wrote:
MJST wrote:
If we replaced Anthony Davis and Kyle Kuzma on our current roster, with the youngsters that are gone (Russell, Lonzo, Randle, BI) given the years they've had.

Would we be a Championship contender still?

Starters:
Lonzo Ball
D'Angelo Russell
LeBron James
Julius Randle
Andre Drummond

Bench:
Alex Caruso
KCP / THT
Brandon Ingram / Wes
Montrezl Harrell
Marc Gasol

Is that a Championship contender?


That's a wierd team for sure. I can't put anything past LBJ but I don't think that's a championship roster. Plus you have some massive EGO issues with Ingram and KCP coming off the bench.


It's also $185,000,000 in salaries.



Do you think the Buss family would have been willing to pay that or would they have traded guys away to cut costs?

We will see this year. Are they going to keep Caruso, Kieff and Schröder or are they going to let go some of them? I already assume that Montrezl will not continue.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 14, 2021 8:56 am    Post subject:

Dr. Laker wrote:
Vin wrote:
MJST wrote:
If we replaced Anthony Davis and Kyle Kuzma on our current roster, with the youngsters that are gone (Russell, Lonzo, Randle, BI) given the years they've had.

Would we be a Championship contender still?

Starters:
Lonzo Ball
D'Angelo Russell
LeBron James
Julius Randle
Andre Drummond

Bench:
Alex Caruso
KCP / THT
Brandon Ingram / Wes
Montrezl Harrell
Marc Gasol

Is that a Championship contender?


That's a wierd team for sure. I can't put anything past LBJ but I don't think that's a championship roster. Plus you have some massive EGO issues with Ingram and KCP coming off the bench.


It's also $185,000,000 in salaries.


More like $506,343,240.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 14, 2021 2:27 pm    Post subject:

SPO200 wrote:
CandyCanes wrote:
Dr. Laker wrote:
Vin wrote:
MJST wrote:
If we replaced Anthony Davis and Kyle Kuzma on our current roster, with the youngsters that are gone (Russell, Lonzo, Randle, BI) given the years they've had.

Would we be a Championship contender still?

Starters:
Lonzo Ball
D'Angelo Russell
LeBron James
Julius Randle
Andre Drummond

Bench:
Alex Caruso
KCP / THT
Brandon Ingram / Wes
Montrezl Harrell
Marc Gasol

Is that a Championship contender?


That's a wierd team for sure. I can't put anything past LBJ but I don't think that's a championship roster. Plus you have some massive EGO issues with Ingram and KCP coming off the bench.


It's also $185,000,000 in salaries.



Do you think the Buss family would have been willing to pay that or would they have traded guys away to cut costs?

We will see this year. Are they going to keep Caruso, Kieff and Schröder or are they going to let go some of them? I already assume that Montrezl will not continue.


At the very least Harrell is the one that has a Player Option so he could if he believed us when we tell him we'll give him a bigger contract when they have his full Bird's. It would help us out a ton tbh.
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