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Feel AD is making a strong case for the FO to make a move to upgrade the roster. The issue is does the FO believe AD will stay healthy and play like this all season. This AD, you put a deeper roster around them, especiallu some wings that can shoot and defend, and now you have a closing lineup.
As bad as our offense has been most of the season, with AD and Lebron, you can get by when they play this well, which is what would happen in the play ins or playoffs. Moreso, I feel we'd get exposed on defense for lack of wing size, lack of defense inside (when AD is out of the paint on switches). This is where I feel we're really toast.
It may be the AD is playing like a MVP kool aid, but if we can get 2 three and D role guys, we at least give them a shot in the playoffs. I know we're 9-12 even after this, but it's still a situation where I feel we need to do something. Either cash in on AD as he's playing like one of the best players in the NBA, or cash in and do something around them. Our upside is .500 with this roster, IMO, always has been my argument that we're not as bad as our 2-10 start, but we're also not as good as our recent run (7 of 10 wins). |
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The Lakers will go places with this version of AD.
You can mix in any combination of role players. It’s always about AD being top 5 and just getting Lebron’s consistent production. |
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Halflife
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| levon wrote: | remember when dudes were trading him for KD? and then John Collins? 
played better than Giannis tonight. he's that dude. |
Let’s see how we end this trip. In regard to trade it’s not about getting AD back in a trade, it’s that we are in no man’s land. Bron is immovable and getting worse. Trading AD is our only hope of an immediate future. It wasn’t collins. It was Collins, hunter and picks. Then what can an expiring Russ net us.
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| Megaton wrote: | | Halflife wrote: | | It was Collins, hunter and picks. |
I don’t think you realize how much of a joke that trade is. On so many levels. |
No trade gets us AD back. So unless we can move Bron and his remaining 140m I don’t see how we are ever going to truly be anything other than average. If we end this road trip with a gaudy record maybe there is hope but if we lose the next few we are in the worst place imaginable in sports plus it would show as great as AD is he isn’t the guy to get us there.
His play is great. The only way to build a perfect AD team is to move bron and his gigantic number.
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| Megaton wrote: | | Halflife wrote: | | It was Collins, hunter and picks. |
I don’t think you realize how much of a joke that trade is. On so many levels. |
It wasn’t my trade but I did enhance with picks because the original that was posted was more ridiculous.
Ad is not getting us the other teams best player.
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| Halflife wrote: | | Megaton wrote: | | Halflife wrote: | | It was Collins, hunter and picks. |
I don’t think you realize how much of a joke that trade is. On so many levels. |
No trade gets us AD back. |
No (bleep). That’s not the point at all. And again, you don’t seem to realize how awful that particular trade idea is.
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| wolfpaclaker wrote: | Feel AD is making a strong case for the FO to make a move to upgrade the roster. The issue is does the FO believe AD will stay healthy and play like this all season. This AD, you put a deeper roster around them, especiallu some wings that can shoot and defend, and now you have a closing lineup.
As bad as our offense has been most of the season, with AD and Lebron, you can get by when they play this well, which is what would happen in the play ins or playoffs. Moreso, I feel we'd get exposed on defense for lack of wing size, lack of defense inside (when AD is out of the paint on switches). This is where I feel we're really toast.
It may be the AD is playing like a MVP kool aid, but if we can get 2 three and D role guys, we at least give them a shot in the playoffs. I know we're 9-12 even after this, but it's still a situation where I feel we need to do something. Either cash in on AD as he's playing like one of the best players in the NBA, or cash in and do something around them. Our upside is .500 with this roster, IMO, always has been my argument that we're not as bad as our 2-10 start, but we're also not as good as our recent run (7 of 10 wins). |
I believe the opposite, the FO is seeing that this roster is developing and won’t want to upset things by moving guys. At least not for awhile. It’s been reported that is why they gave the roster 20 or however many games before they assess things. Balancing making moves and not taking on future salary is tricky.
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| Megaton wrote: | | Halflife wrote: | | Megaton wrote: | | Halflife wrote: | | It was Collins, hunter and picks. |
I don’t think you realize how much of a joke that trade is. On so many levels. |
No trade gets us AD back. |
No (bleep). That’s not the point at all. And again, you don’t seem to realize how awful that particular trade idea is. |
Every trade is awful for this current version of AD. Unfortunately for us to be legitimately a contender beyond today we need an AD centric team. As long as Bron is here that won’t happen.
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| Kobetan wrote: | So, what's actually attributing to the recent stellar play from AD??
Just him feeling healthier (back feeling better)?
Inspirational talk from coach?
Pressure from the Lakers FO on wanting to see if he's THE GUY?
Getting inspiration from football?
I honestly never saw this resurgence coming. Even if it's not sustainable, this string of games is still super impressive coming from a guy we have lost so much faith on. |
Team made a focus of feeding him the ball in spots he can do damage. Dumping the ball to him around the 18 ft area like before is really not helping. Russ and bron got him a ton of easy baskets, and AD has his jumper back now which made him the Unicorn like 2020 |
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| AD is putting up Shaq numbers out there. He has best player in the league potential when he brings it like this, need to keep him healthy and you will see bubble AD out there every night. Man he looks great lately!! |
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The Lead
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List of players in NBA history to put up 25 and 12 on 50% FG in 8 consecutive games:
- Wilt Chamberlain
- Kareem Abdul-Jabbar
- Anthony Davis
AD is the first to do it in 50 years 🤯
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| MJST wrote: | The Lead
@TheLeadSM
List of players in NBA history to put up 25 and 12 on 50% FG in 8 consecutive games:
- Wilt Chamberlain
- Kareem Abdul-Jabbar
- Anthony Davis
AD is the first to do it in 50 years 🤯 |
According to SportsCenter, he’s the first guy with 25/10/3 blocks in 5 straight since Shaq in ‘99. |
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Please get him a starting center 🙏🏼
Our defense would be litty AF! Dude can play elite defense against wings for real.
https://streamable.com/5ozb72
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| vasashi17+ wrote: | Please get him a starting center 🙏🏼
Our defense would be litty AF! Dude can play elite defense against wings for real.
https://streamable.com/5ozb72 |
Pat Beverly + Nunn + Lotto protected 1st for Vucevic would work. |
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Crazy when you consider that Giannis in year 10 and Davis is in year 11 at ages 28 and 29. They were just drafted one year apart. Even Davis seemed surprised that this is Giannis's 10th year in the post game interview.
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| levon wrote: | remember when dudes were trading him for KD? and then John Collins?
played better than Giannis tonight. he's that dude. |
Yeah, people were ready to quit 5-6 games into the season. This AD is one of the best in the league, MVP/DPOY caliber season so far
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| MJST wrote: | | Crazy when you consider that Giannis in year 10 and Davis is in year 11 at ages 28 and 29. They were just drafted one year apart. Even Davis seemed surprised that this is Giannis's 10th year in the post game interview. |
Yea I think people forget that Giannis was in the league before he started looking like the Hulk. |
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| vasashi17+ wrote: | Please get him a starting center 🙏🏼
Our defense would be litty AF! Dude can play elite defense against wings for real.
https://streamable.com/5ozb72 |
Three times NO!! It will not.
You guys want AD out of the paint again. Are you forgetting when we got the layup parade when we had MGasol, Djordan & ADrummond??!!
Vusevic is even worse. That guy is really allergic to the paint and slow as maple syrup!
He can guard the freak, yes he can but the freak, can guard him? |
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| wolfpaclaker wrote: | Feel AD is making a strong case for the FO to make a move to upgrade the roster. The issue is does the FO believe AD will stay healthy and play like this all season. This AD, you put a deeper roster around them, especiallu some wings that can shoot and defend, and now you have a closing lineup.
As bad as our offense has been most of the season, with AD and Lebron, you can get by when they play this well, which is what would happen in the play ins or playoffs. Moreso, I feel we'd get exposed on defense for lack of wing size, lack of defense inside (when AD is out of the paint on switches). This is where I feel we're really toast.
It may be the AD is playing like a MVP kool aid, but if we can get 2 three and D role guys, we at least give them a shot in the playoffs. I know we're 9-12 even after this, but it's still a situation where I feel we need to do something. Either cash in on AD as he's playing like one of the best players in the NBA, or cash in and do something around them. Our upside is .500 with this roster, IMO, always has been my argument that we're not as bad as our 2-10 start, but we're also not as good as our recent run (7 of 10 wins). |
where you get those tho? FAs i dont think you can upgrade much there. youd have to make something with Beverley+Toscano and Nunn+Jones, maybe with a couple of 2nds. no idea if that gets you something good tho
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| lakerican wrote: | | vasashi17+ wrote: | Please get him a starting center 🙏🏼
Our defense would be litty AF! Dude can play elite defense against wings for real.
https://streamable.com/5ozb72 |
Three times NO!! It will not.
You guys want AD out of the paint again. Are you forgetting when we got the layup parade when we had MGasol, Djordan & ADrummond??!!
Vusevic is even worse. That guy is really allergic to the paint and slow as maple syrup!
He can guard the freak, yes he can but the freak, can guard him? |
I’m not advocating for Vuc personally, but I still would take that scenario over keeping AD at the 5.
You brought up our center platoon from the 2020/21 season where Vogs was really messing around with their minutes. But you do recall AD only playing half the season that year and our defense was still pretty lit.
I understand some of you are living AD’s performance right now at the 5, but we’re still not playing elite D with him at the rim protector spot. You put AD out at the wing and his task defensive potential gets realized imho.
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| vasashi17+ wrote: | | lakerican wrote: | | vasashi17+ wrote: | Please get him a starting center 🙏🏼
Our defense would be litty AF! Dude can play elite defense against wings for real.
https://streamable.com/5ozb72 |
Three times NO!! It will not.
You guys want AD out of the paint again. Are you forgetting when we got the layup parade when we had MGasol, Djordan & ADrummond??!!
Vusevic is even worse. That guy is really allergic to the paint and slow as maple syrup!
He can guard the freak, yes he can but the freak, can guard him? |
I’m not advocating for Vuc personally, but I still would take that scenario over keeping AD at the 5.
You brought up our center platoon from the 2020/21 season where Vogs was really messing around with their minutes. But you do recall AD only playing half the season that year and our defense was still pretty lit.
I understand some of you are living AD’s performance right now at the 5, but we’re still not playing elite D with him at the rim protector spot. You put AD out at the wing and his task defensive potential gets realized imho. |
Turner or McGee are the only real answers imho that would take us next level
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Mo Bamba is also available. He looks like he is what he'll be at this point, but if you get him to focus on lobs and defense you could have something like a poor man's McGee. Except Bamba can hit threes.
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| MJST wrote: | | Mo Bamba is also available. He looks like he is what he'll be at this point, but if you get him to focus on lobs and defense you could have something like a poor man's McGee. Except Bamba can hit threes. |
The fact he can be had for very cheap, and on a cheep contract makes him desirably.
Much rather have him than Turner considering the cost.
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