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PostPosted: Mon Jul 08, 2019 9:51 am    Post subject:

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What does this mean for KCP? These two are basically the same player, no?

I would say Bradley is more disciplined and a much better playmaker. KCP is the better athlete.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 08, 2019 9:51 am    Post subject:

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What does this mean for KCP? These two are basically the same player, no?


KCP isn't injury prone as AB
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 08, 2019 9:53 am    Post subject:

Great signing that even the Negative Nellies (you all know who you are) have to like. We are really filling this roster up nicely.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 08, 2019 9:55 am    Post subject:

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Memphis has 3 guys who I want: Iggy, Korver, Bradley

One down, 2 to go. And now, waiting on Iggy......


We only have one roster spot left, and yes, Iggy and Korver should've been the ones we waited on. Not Bradley.


Korver??? The guy is near 40 and plays no defense.


I would rather have him at the min and the Room saved for a better player (Iggy) than wasting it on Bradley. Korver still offers elite floor stretching for a 2nd unit.


I think Bradley would get more than the min somewhere else so its better to have him for the room than not at all.

Iggy has made way more money throughout his career and would be more willing to play for the min. imo.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 08, 2019 9:56 am    Post subject:

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What does this mean for KCP? These two are basically the same player, no?

I would say Bradley is more disciplined and a much better playmaker. KCP is the better athlete.


"Better athlete" always seems like a kind way of saying "no skill".

I would have no problem with this move we hand't already wasted $8m on KCP, but as it stands I don't see the logic.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 08, 2019 9:56 am    Post subject:

Excellent pick up!
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 08, 2019 9:57 am    Post subject:

Could KCP have agreed to be trade filler somewhere?
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 08, 2019 9:57 am    Post subject:

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Excellent Pickup! I think he'll be a great fit and Kudos to Pelinka! I think we're genuinely 2-3 deep at every position.

C - Cousins | McGee
F - Davis | Kuzma | Dudley
F - Lebron | KCP | THT
G - Green | Caruso | Daniels
G - Bradley | Rondo | Cook

Though in terms of rotation, I will play Caruso ahead of Rondo mostly through the regular season to preserve playoff Rondo.

I had the Clippers right there with us.. maybe slightly ahead because of questions at the PG position. Picking up Bradley answers those questions for me.. and I now feel we are ahead of the Clips!!!

Keep the last roster spot open in case another vet (maybe Iggy) gets released.


KCP doesn't guard up very well. He's better guarding 1/2.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 08, 2019 9:58 am    Post subject:

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Meh. It's been what, 3 years since this guy was last good? Do we really have an analytics department or are the just ignored? I'm assuming this means we think we have no shot at Iggy since we usually keep one spot open throughout the season for buyouts.


I value dprm and I remember he was an outlier. I saw him play defense and he’s smart defender. he does not gamble and usually staying in front. he’s more of on ball defender just like KCP. The difference is KCP can play good defense for the most part then commit a stupid foul gambling for steals.

I am digging this signing. He has not been on relevant team and been hurt. I have the feeling he’s gonna put it together for us and will pan out and will likely be paid.

He’s gonna win that starting gig.


I have no choice but to hope he can be good again, but it's been 3 years. That's an inordinately long "slump."


He had a pretty good numbers before this season. 14.3 ppg on a 37% on his 3 ball. Maybe he was not as good like he was 2016-2017. That’s 2 years ago. Not 3 years

Plus he’s only 28.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 08, 2019 9:58 am    Post subject:

Lakers to sign Avery Bradley using room exception

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*The Lakers will only be able to add to their roster using the veteran’s minimum after signing free agent Avery Bradley with their full room exception.


https://www.silverscreenandroll.com/2019/7/8/20686360/nba-free-agent-rumors-lakers-signing-avery-bradley-using-full-room-exception-contract-woj-twitter
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 08, 2019 10:00 am    Post subject:

socalsp3 wrote:
greenfrog wrote:
What does this mean for KCP? These two are basically the same player, no?


KCP isn't injury prone as AB


Badley 6"2
KCP 6"7


we need one more 6"7+ guys that can play D
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 08, 2019 10:00 am    Post subject:

really dont understand the KCP, Daniels, and Dudley pickups after this
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 08, 2019 10:01 am    Post subject:

This is a solid pick up, but Alex Caruso needs to be the backup point, and Bradley can compete at who is gonna be playing next to Alex... Quinn, kcp, or AB. Or maybe have a 3 of Alex, KCP, and Bradley on the floor together since Alex and kcp are 6'5.

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 08, 2019 10:01 am    Post subject:

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@LakerFilmRoom does Avery Bradley meet your requirement that the Lakers need a guard to be considered contenders?


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No. It's been a few years since Bradley's played well & I think he's a vet min signing at best. We're basically hoping he gets back to the player he was in 2015-16 in 2019-20. And I hope this doesn't take us out of the running for Iggy. Wish I could like this signing but I don't.


Tldr: we wasted our Room MLE. Becoming decreasingly confident in this "Rob is a genius" rumor.


We get it. You don't like him and will post copies of anyone who agrees with you. FYI there are also plenty who think it's an excellent signing.

Avery Bradley for about 1/2 of an average NBA salary is a good deal. I also think it matters we have multiple guys who know how to play individual and team defense, because they're most likely to figure out how to do it on a string. It's why AB looked much better after he was traded to Memphis (nevermind the 16.1 ppg, 3.1 rbds & 4 assts he averaged there).

If we signed Bradley to play with Jordan Clarkson, Kyle Kirver and a bunch a guys who've never really valued that side of the ball, Bradley would be a wasted signing and his defense would look nonexistent. However, when you add him to a team with other defenders on it, they all elevate.

Bruce Bowen and Shane Battier remained impactful defenders for most of their careers, not just because they knew how to play it and prepared, but because they played with others who also played it. Any guy can look washed up on that end, if no one's got his back and he's the only guy defending. That will thankfully no longer be the case here.

I think AB makes perfect sense on this team and the money is fair. We needed him.


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PostPosted: Mon Jul 08, 2019 10:02 am    Post subject:

pjiddy wrote:
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@LakerFilmRoom does Avery Bradley meet your requirement that the Lakers need a guard to be considered contenders?


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No. It's been a few years since Bradley's played well & I think he's a vet min signing at best. We're basically hoping he gets back to the player he was in 2015-16 in 2019-20. And I hope this doesn't take us out of the running for Iggy. Wish I could like this signing but I don't.


Tldr: we wasted our Room MLE. Becoming decreasingly confident in this "Rob is a genius" rumor.



1. I know he's discarding the Memphis sample size because it was small.
2. I know he's ignoring the Doc Rivers affect


What's the Doc Rivers effect? Why didn't it hurt Patrick Beverly?

And why wasn't he good in Detroit?


Didn't he put up 15PPG in Detroit? I mean, look at the Det stats and the Memph stats, and they are very similar. Then in the middle are the clips stats. 9PPG, worse shooting. Bookended by good shooting and 15+ PPG. Looks like the Clips was just a bad situation.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 08, 2019 10:02 am    Post subject:

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socalsp3 wrote:
greenfrog wrote:
What does this mean for KCP? These two are basically the same player, no?


KCP isn't injury prone as AB


Badley 6"2
KCP 6"7


we need one more 6"7+ guys that can play D


KCP is listed at 6'5.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 08, 2019 10:03 am    Post subject:

scout0_0 wrote:
socalsp3 wrote:
greenfrog wrote:
What does this mean for KCP? These two are basically the same player, no?


KCP isn't injury prone as AB


Badley 6"2
KCP 6"7


we need one more 6"7+ guys that can play D


KCP is atrocious on 3's and post switches, however. Positionally I think it is the same.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 08, 2019 10:04 am    Post subject:

greenfrog wrote:
What does this mean for KCP? These two are basically the same player, no?


That if he he does not play smart, he’s gonna be watching.

Once he start jacking 3s on the break, sit yo ass down.

Commit fouls far away from the basket. Sit yo ass down

Foul a jumpshooter. Sit yo ass down

Gambling on the passing lane and get burned. Sit your ass down.

Play a hero ball. Move further from the bench

Complain. You’re outta here.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 08, 2019 10:04 am    Post subject:

Bradley's not a lock down defender.. what makes him unique is that he plays the passing lanes very well, he has good anticipation as to the players dribble direction and picks them well and he’s a pest.. someone who isnt scared to get up in a players face and puts pressure on them, while anticipating direction.

Good skill set addition to what we want to do at the 1, and he’s only 28yo.


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PostPosted: Mon Jul 08, 2019 10:05 am    Post subject:

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really dont understand the KCP, Daniels, and Dudley pickups after this


They give us shooting and depth.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 08, 2019 10:06 am    Post subject:

Mini Mamba wrote:
Great One wrote:
really dont understand the KCP, Daniels, and Dudley pickups after this


They give us shooting and depth.


Exactly. This isnt 2k where everyone plays well every night.
Some guys have off nights, so its good to have backup options, and different folks for matchup purposes.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 08, 2019 10:07 am    Post subject:

CRoost wrote:
greenfrog wrote:
What does this mean for KCP? These two are basically the same player, no?


That if he he does not play smart, he’s gonna be watching.

Once he start jacking 3s on the break, sit yo ass down.

Commit fouls far away from the basket. Sit yo ass down

Foul a jumpshooter. Sit yo ass down

Gambling on the passing lane and get burned. Sit your ass down.

Play a hero ball. Move further from the bench

Complain. You’re outta here.


So it's the headcase insurance policy. Basically what they did with McGee and Cousins. Sign two unreiable guys, hope you get the production of one.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 08, 2019 10:11 am    Post subject:


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PostPosted: Mon Jul 08, 2019 10:12 am    Post subject:

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Excellent Pickup! I think he'll be a great fit and Kudos to Pelinka! I think we're genuinely 2-3 deep at every position.

C - Cousins | McGee
F - Davis | Kuzma | Dudley
F - Lebron | KCP | THT
G - Green | Caruso | Daniels
G - Bradley | Rondo | Cook

Though in terms of rotation, I will play Caruso ahead of Rondo mostly through the regular season to preserve playoff Rondo.

I had the Clippers right there with us.. maybe slightly ahead because of questions at the PG position. Picking up Bradley answers those questions for me.. and I now feel we are ahead of the Clips!!!

Keep the last roster spot open in case another vet (maybe Iggy) gets released.


KCP doesn't guard up very well. He's better guarding 1/2.


I agree... when he subs in.. Green might have to slide up to the 3.. Kuzma could slide down to the 3 as well
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 08, 2019 10:12 am    Post subject:

Zubolo wrote:
Excellent Pickup! I think he'll be a great fit and Kudos to Pelinka! I think we're genuinely 2-3 deep at every position.

C - Cousins | McGee
F - Davis | Kuzma | Dudley
F - Lebron | KCP | THT
G - Green | Caruso | Daniels
G - Bradley | Rondo | Cook

Though in terms of rotation, I will play Caruso ahead of Rondo mostly through the regular season to preserve playoff Rondo.

I had the Clippers right there with us.. maybe slightly ahead because of questions at the PG position. Picking up Bradley answers those questions for me.. and I now feel we are ahead of the Clips!!!

Keep the last roster spot open in case another vet (maybe Iggy) gets released.

Bro, KCP is a SG-PG... and we aren't paying KCP $8m (4th highest salary on the squad) for you to push him out of position into SF as LeBron's back-up to make place for Caruso as a 2nd option in some position on your list instead of being the 3rd PG option behind Bradley/Cook.


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