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PostPosted: Tue Sep 07, 2021 11:20 am    Post subject:

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From what I’ve read, people who use marijuana maintenance to try and stay off alcohol have a higher relapse rate than those who do not in controlled studies. I would wholeheartedly agree with the idea that pot tends to be a far better alternative to booze, it’s just not a great stop drinking medicine.


Because if an individual doesn't examine the underlying reasons for the addiction, this is a short-term band-aid and not a long-term solution.


Yep. Addiction is the problem. Not the substance being abused.


There are some caveats to that, where some substances are heavily physically addictive, but absolutely correct about “behavioral addiction”. People use and/or abuse alcohol for a lot of the same purposes they use and/or abuse marijuana. But you don’t get exactly the same physiological or psychological reaction. Hence the preference of one over the other for a variety of reasons can have some validity, the use of one to mitigate the unwanted but addicted use of the other seems a fools errand.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 07, 2021 6:41 pm    Post subject:

Food edition:

-Medium rare steak is overcooked.

-Turkey is just a drier chicken.

-White meat is dry and flavorless.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 07, 2021 7:25 pm    Post subject:

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From what I’ve read, people who use marijuana maintenance to try and stay off alcohol have a higher relapse rate than those who do not in controlled studies. I would wholeheartedly agree with the idea that pot tends to be a far better alternative to booze, it’s just not a great stop drinking medicine.


Because if an individual doesn't examine the underlying reasons for the addiction, this is a short-term band-aid and not a long-term solution.


Yep. Addiction is the problem. Not the substance being abused.


There are some caveats to that, where some substances are heavily physically addictive, but absolutely correct about “behavioral addiction”. People use and/or abuse alcohol for a lot of the same purposes they use and/or abuse marijuana. But you don’t get exactly the same physiological or psychological reaction. Hence the preference of one over the other for a variety of reasons can have some validity, the use of one to mitigate the unwanted but addicted use of the other seems a fools errand.

I haven't read the research you have. If you have the chance. Please send me a link. Sounds like an interesting read.

I guess just indulge me. Even though I'm not passionate about this controversial take I do have some thoughts.

1) I think people who are addicts are addicts for life. Relapse is as close to a given as it gets (although some beat the odds). So its not a matter of "curing their addiction" (in this case alcohol). But curbing the behavior that negatively affects others. And in that case. I dare anybody to get blackout drunk who is an alcoholic. And then try to do it again the next day after smoking. You'll fall asleep. You won't pick fights. You won't drink and drive. You won't suffer from insomnia during withdrawals. You'll just fall asleep.

2) DMR's point that addiction is more important than the substance. I couldn't disagree more. People are addicted to coffee, gambling, fatty food, cigarettes, meth, alcohol, opiates, etc. And the single most important factor is what their addictive personality/trauma latched on to as a coping mechanism. At UPENN I watched college kids lecture me on my way to my doctorate on how weed is dangerous and evil. While they puked their guts out after binge drinking. Because ... it was a Friday.

3) Not saying it'll work for everyone. Not saying you should go out and get high everyday. There are downsides. You can do it to much and underachieve when you otherwise wouldn't. I just think of the alternatives (prescription drugs that make you sick if you drink and have a ton of side effects), and I think weed is better.
Of course, if anybody reading this is suffering from addiction. Seek the appropriate help. It's not one of the other (Mary Jane or therapy/treatment). Weed isn't a cure all for bigger problems. No mind altering substance is.

I do think it could help people right now though.
But illegality and social stigma are the barriers.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 07, 2021 8:48 pm    Post subject:

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2) DMR's point that addiction is more important than the substance. I couldn't disagree more. People are addicted to coffee, gambling, fatty food, cigarettes, meth, alcohol, opiates, etc. And the single most important factor is what their addictive personality/character flaw latched on to. At UPENN I watched college kids lecture me on my way to my doctorate on how weed is dangerous and evil. While they puked their guts out after binge drinking. Because ... it was a Friday.


That's a wide range of substances and trying to lump them in together as if they are commensurate on any level is inaccurate. Someone who has spent their life eating too many fatty foods because of an eating disorder or someone who has become habitual in utilizing caffeine as part of their daily routine is nowhere near the same thing as someone who is a full blown alcoholic or opiate addict. Sure, the first two are totally unhealthy over the long haul, but they present no meaningful addiction issues in regards to OD'ing or representing a danger to those around the abuser. I would think that if you have a doctorate, you should be well aware of that.

True addiction to immediately dangerous substances is a treacherous thing to navigate. It is in no way as simple as shifting to something less damaging. Doing so only puts the actual issue off until a later date. This weekend's death of Michael K. Williamson via OD is a perfect example. Relapse is the biggest threat to addicts of dangerous substances. You can be entirely clean for an extended period of time, but if something triggers a relapse, things can go downhill catastrophically. That doesn't happen with fatty foods or one too many coffees everyday.

If someone is a full blown alcoholic, shifting over to a different substance is only a band aid. It's a false sense of security, "Hey, I can manage this because I don't get as messed up when I used to get blackout drunk", but it doesn't address the behavior of why someone found themselves getting blackout drunk in the first place. Perpetuating the dependence issues with a different substance doesn't eliminate the threat from the substance one is trying to avoid, it simply keeps the window open to relapsing with the substance that was the issue in the first place.

I'm not speaking out of my ass here. I'm saying this because I have had many conversations with my nephew who was a heroin addict and was lucky enough to survive two OD's that were almost fatal. He got his (bleep) together and is now a highly regarded addiction specialist and counselor. I am someone who has found themselves battling the abuse of several substances over the course of my life, and almost had my life derailed by cocaine addiction in my early 20's. Fortunately, for whatever reason it may be, I've been able to pull myself off the precipice of irreversible addiction that I have seen lead to the ruin of far too many friends. I don't say that to blow my own horn. Quite the opposite. I say that as someone who knows how thin that dividing line is and knows how easy it is to find oneself stepping over it, intentionally or not.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 07, 2021 9:56 pm    Post subject:

Marijuana may be physically addictive, but it's nowhere nearly as physically addictive as hard drugs. Its level of severity and potential for addiction is about where it is with caffeine. I know plenty of people who smoked weed everyday and were still really productive, then had to stop cold turkey and had either no withdrawal symptoms or really mild ones (like the ones you get from not drinking caffeine).

I have an uncle who is a psychiatrist, and I once asked him if marijuana is physically addictive (even though I knew it wasn't really). He gave me a long, convoluted answer, but he basically said that weed doesn't affect the part of the brain that deals with substance dependence the same way that hard drugs do.

I've also read that some people have beaten addiction to other substances with the help of weed or other hallucinogens. But obviously I'm guessing that those people also needed professional help to deal with the physical effects of that addiction.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 10, 2021 9:48 am    Post subject:

$9.95 Insurance plan. It doesn't say One “unit” of life insurance usually equals $1,000 worth of coverage.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 10, 2021 11:58 am    Post subject:

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$9.95 Insurance plan. It doesn't say One “unit” of life insurance usually equals $1,000 worth of coverage.


I don’t think this is a controversial opinion.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 10, 2021 12:32 pm    Post subject:

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$9.95 Insurance plan. It doesn't say One “unit” of life insurance usually equals $1,000 worth of coverage.


I don’t think this is a controversial opinion.

I do. It's misleading by omission. Gives the impression insurance is inexpensive. A $10,000 policy will cost you almost $100.00 per month.
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$9.95 Insurance plan. It doesn't say One “unit” of life insurance usually equals $1,000 worth of coverage.


I don’t think this is a controversial opinion.

I do. It's misleading by omission. Gives the impression insurance is inexpensive. A $10,000 policy will cost you almost $100.00 per month.


If course it’s misleading. That’s not controversial. The whole thing is a scam. Everyone except some addled seniors knows that. Controversial would be saying it’s good insurance.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 10, 2021 7:49 pm    Post subject:

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$9.95 Insurance plan. It doesn't say One “unit” of life insurance usually equals $1,000 worth of coverage.


I don’t think this is a controversial opinion.

I do. It's misleading by omission. Gives the impression insurance is inexpensive. A $10,000 policy will cost you almost $100.00 per month.


If course it’s misleading. That’s not controversial. The whole thing is a scam. Everyone except some addled seniors knows that. Controversial would be saying it’s good insurance.

Can't you equate good with inexpensive?
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jodeke wrote:
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jodeke wrote:
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$9.95 Insurance plan. It doesn't say One “unit” of life insurance usually equals $1,000 worth of coverage.


I don’t think this is a controversial opinion.

I do. It's misleading by omission. Gives the impression insurance is inexpensive. A $10,000 policy will cost you almost $100.00 per month.


If course it’s misleading. That’s not controversial. The whole thing is a scam. Everyone except some addled seniors knows that. Controversial would be saying it’s good insurance.

Can't you equate good with inexpensive?


Sure, I just don’t think the obvious idea that the insurance advertised on TV is pretty scammy is news, or controversial.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 11, 2021 8:24 am    Post subject:

Omar Little wrote:
jodeke wrote:
Omar Little wrote:
jodeke wrote:
Omar Little wrote:
jodeke wrote:
$9.95 Insurance plan. It doesn't say One “unit” of life insurance usually equals $1,000 worth of coverage.


I don’t think this is a controversial opinion.

I do. It's misleading by omission. Gives the impression insurance is inexpensive. A $10,000 policy will cost you almost $100.00 per month.


If course it’s misleading. That’s not controversial. The whole thing is a scam. Everyone except some addled seniors knows that. Controversial would be saying it’s good insurance.

Can't you equate good with inexpensive?


Sure, I just don’t think the obvious idea that the insurance advertised on TV is pretty scammy is news, or controversial.

Isn't that a contradiction? But as you say it's not an opinion, it's a scam. I'm gonna reroute it to a controversial scam.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 17, 2021 5:54 am    Post subject:

The sudden backlash against the the TPP in 2015-2016 was racist xenophobia...from the right and left in America.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 18, 2021 5:13 am    Post subject:

Cast iron skillets are not worth having to maintain the seasoning.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 18, 2021 6:01 am    Post subject:

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Cast iron skillets are not worth having to maintain the seasoning.


Nothing controversial there. Just good old common sense.
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Wearing metal cleats on your hardwood floor is okay.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 18, 2021 6:11 am    Post subject:

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Cast iron skillets are not worth having to maintain the seasoning.


Nothing controversial there. Just good old common sense.


I liked the benefits of my skillet, but it is such a primadonna. Someone just gifted me a large enameled dutch oven and I used it to crust a steak. I literally gasped after finding that I was able to get it squeaky clean with fewer than 3 swipes of a soapy, abrasive sponge.

Skillet...you're fired.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 19, 2021 1:05 am    Post subject:

#50-11). Dudes with long nails. What's the reason for this? I saw a How It's Made on baseballs and a male sewer had nails of various lengths, but both thumbs were a quarter inch. Not only eww, but you'd think that would kill after using all the fingertip pressure it takes to drive an awl into leather while keeping the two leather flaps pulled taut during the procedure fifty-leven times. Your thumbs would be throbbing after an hour. Besides that, they had the standard black dirt line at the base like a shrimp's poop vein. Gross upclose on this chico they showed. You know how your big toenails get long enough to feel unpleasant from pressure in your shoes so you know it's time to clip em? The concept isn't exactly the same for fingers, lessin you do sh like sewing thru leather a hundred fifty-leven times a day. Why would ANY chico want long ass dirty nails? I'll ask it 50-11 times.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 19, 2021 7:56 am    Post subject:

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Cast iron skillets are not worth having to maintain the seasoning.

Blasphemy
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 19, 2021 8:06 am    Post subject:

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Cast iron skillets are not worth having to maintain the seasoning.

Blasphemy


I have 2 cast iron skillets. Once they're seasoned they're great. To keep them from rusting, after you clean them take a paper towel and wipe them with cooking oil.
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Duck is an underrated meat.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 19, 2021 1:32 pm    Post subject:

Enamel over cast iron works (although not as well as properly seasoned cast iron), so that’s a way to go if you prefer speed and ease. I have a couple of Griswold pans that I’ve acquired and restored, one is closing in on a century old and the other is from the fifties, and I can slide eggs out of them like a nonstick pan, and they make biscuits or Dutch babies the enamel coated pan can’t touch. They don’t require a lot of work anymore, just a touch of oil and a quick scrape or a little soak.
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The sudden backlash against the the TPP in 2015-2016 was racist xenophobia...from the right and left in America.


I doubt if too many people here know what the TPP is, but I strongly agree with you. The US would be in a much better economic and diplomatic position right now if Trump and Bernie hadn’t put the squeeze on the TPP.
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The sudden backlash against the the TPP in 2015-2016 was racist xenophobia...from the right and left in America.


I doubt if too many people here know what the TPP is, but I strongly agree with you. The US would be in a much better economic and diplomatic position right now if Trump and Bernie hadn’t put the squeeze on the TPP.


TPP was actually meant to head off Chinese advantages.
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Omar Little wrote:
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Baron Von Humongous wrote:
The sudden backlash against the the TPP in 2015-2016 was racist xenophobia...from the right and left in America.


I doubt if too many people here know what the TPP is, but I strongly agree with you. The US would be in a much better economic and diplomatic position right now if Trump and Bernie hadn’t put the squeeze on the TPP.


TPP was actually meant to head off Chinese advantages.


You guys are right. And if in the future another effort is made to accomplish the same things TPP wanted to accomplish.
The bill makers have to do a better job marketing it to America's voting populace.

It's probably worth it to have immediate, tangible, short term benefits to Americans. Even if a better bill could've been made (in the long run) if it was built another way.

I get the urge to make the best long term policy for our country. But if the bill doesn't last long term, that doesn't matter.
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