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PostPosted: Sun May 30, 2021 12:46 am    Post subject:

It has nothing to do with 'defensively'. We were/are the number 1 defensive team in the league with Trez playing the majority of the backup 5 minutes. So whatever he "lacked" didn't take away from us defensively, and it helped our offense due to his ability to get his own offense and score.

The true problem, is Vogel is stubborn about playing Trez and Gasol together with Trez defending at the 4 and Gasol defending at the 5 because he somehow things "playing two centers is hard" despite the fact Trez would be doing his damage in the paint, and Gasol on the outside and with his passing. In addition to Trez bodying up people his size and Gasol being defensive against centers.

It's pretty much upon Vogel's stubbornness which is why we don't see Trez. Vogel is incapable of realizing you can play Trez and Gasol together.
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PostPosted: Sun May 30, 2021 12:50 am    Post subject:

vcdplaya3002 wrote:
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AD23 wrote:
Trez will get his turn, stay ready.


No thanks, just stay on the bench


Trezz in short bursts with Lebron to run the pick n roll can still be very effective. Most likely not in this series, but if we say perhaps play portland, Trezz could absolutely eat them alive for stretches. Portland is one of the weaker defensive teams in the playoffs so you can get away with playing Trezz in that matchup. Against Denver he likely wouldn't have much use, and against the Jazz he might be ok I'm not too sure on that one.


Why risk? Just continue what is working.
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PostPosted: Sun May 30, 2021 2:19 am    Post subject:

MJST wrote:
It has nothing to do with 'defensively'. We were/are the number 1 defensive team in the league with Trez playing the majority of the backup 5 minutes. So whatever he "lacked" didn't take away from us defensively, and it helped our offense due to his ability to get his own offense and score.

The true problem, is Vogel is stubborn about playing Trez and Gasol together with Trez defending at the 4 and Gasol defending at the 5 because he somehow things "playing two centers is hard" despite the fact Trez would be doing his damage in the paint, and Gasol on the outside and with his passing. In addition to Trez bodying up people his size and Gasol being defensive against centers.

It's pretty much upon Vogel's stubbornness which is why we don't see Trez. Vogel is incapable of realizing you can play Trez and Gasol together.

My guess is, once Gasol gets switched during the P&R, it usually ends up an open lane for the opponent guard to just drive to the paint. Vogel probably doesn't trust Trez's help defense and his judgement.
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PostPosted: Sun May 30, 2021 4:48 am    Post subject:

Was obvious last season he needed to be benched. I still don't understand why we signed him.
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PostPosted: Sun May 30, 2021 5:01 am    Post subject:

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Was obvious last season he needed to be benched. I still don't understand why we signed him.


At the time of the signing I thought it was to provide 25-30 net-positive minutes from the bench and thus save regular season wear-and-tear on AD/Gasol. Measured against that standard the Trezz experiment didn't completely fail, it kinda worked at a C/C+ level.


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PostPosted: Sun May 30, 2021 6:39 am    Post subject:

MJST wrote:
It has nothing to do with 'defensively'. We were/are the number 1 defensive team in the league with Trez playing the majority of the backup 5 minutes. So whatever he "lacked" didn't take away from us defensively, and it helped our offense due to his ability to get his own offense and score.

The true problem, is Vogel is stubborn about playing Trez and Gasol together with Trez defending at the 4 and Gasol defending at the 5 because he somehow things "playing two centers is hard" despite the fact Trez would be doing his damage in the paint, and Gasol on the outside and with his passing. In addition to Trez bodying up people his size and Gasol being defensive against centers.

It's pretty much upon Vogel's stubbornness which is why we don't see Trez. Vogel is incapable of realizing you can play Trez and Gasol together.


THIS!! Frank has not put Trez in a position to succeed which is what any coach worth their salt is supposed to do. There will be several instances where we will need Trez's spark and energy during our march. Give the kid enough run so he doesn't get down and is ready when called upon. I have been impressed with Trez. He doesn't seem like he is moping because of the DNP's.
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PostPosted: Sun May 30, 2021 10:48 am    Post subject:

Why would the Lakers play him when they are a better team when he’s on the bench?

They’ve looked significantly better without him in the rotation.
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PostPosted: Sun May 30, 2021 2:55 pm    Post subject:

Karma is a (bleep).

This idiot was trolling clips in the middle of a series. Now AD is injured and this clown is collecting DNPs. If AD doesnt comeback, we are going home.
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PostPosted: Sun May 30, 2021 2:56 pm    Post subject:

roger_federer wrote:
Karma is a (bleep).

This idiot was trolling clips in the middle of a series. Now AD is injured and this clown is collecting DNPs. If AD doesnt comeback, we are going home.

Speaking from a true clippers fan.
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PostPosted: Sun May 30, 2021 3:05 pm    Post subject:

mad55557777 wrote:
roger_federer wrote:
Karma is a (bleep).

This idiot was trolling clips in the middle of a series. Now AD is injured and this clown is collecting DNPs. If AD doesnt comeback, we are going home.

Speaking from a true clippers fan.


Ok genius.

Do you remember how clips players were clowning and how it ended for them?
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PostPosted: Sun May 30, 2021 3:09 pm    Post subject:

roger_federer wrote:
mad55557777 wrote:
roger_federer wrote:
Karma is a (bleep).

This idiot was trolling clips in the middle of a series. Now AD is injured and this clown is collecting DNPs. If AD doesnt comeback, we are going home.

Speaking from a true clippers fan.


Ok genius.

Do you remember how clips players were clowning and how it ended for them?

No, but I guess you know it better than me
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PostPosted: Sun May 30, 2021 3:10 pm    Post subject:

defense wrote:
Was obvious last season he needed to be benched. I still don't understand why we signed him.


Me either, particularly at that money.

Nice energy guy in the doldrums of the regular season, but he was unplayable in the playoffs last year.
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PostPosted: Sun May 30, 2021 3:27 pm    Post subject:

mad55557777 wrote:
roger_federer wrote:
mad55557777 wrote:
roger_federer wrote:
Karma is a (bleep).

This idiot was trolling clips in the middle of a series. Now AD is injured and this clown is collecting DNPs. If AD doesnt comeback, we are going home.

Speaking from a true clippers fan.


Ok genius.

Do you remember how clips players were clowning and how it ended for them?

No, but I guess you know it better than me


So you dont (bleep) about what i am talking about. Still want to comment
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PostPosted: Sun May 30, 2021 4:02 pm    Post subject:

roger_federer wrote:
mad55557777 wrote:
roger_federer wrote:
mad55557777 wrote:
roger_federer wrote:
Karma is a (bleep).

This idiot was trolling clips in the middle of a series. Now AD is injured and this clown is collecting DNPs. If AD doesnt comeback, we are going home.

Speaking from a true clippers fan.


Ok genius.

Do you remember how clips players were clowning and how it ended for them?

No, but I guess you know it better than me


So you dont (bleep) about what i am talking about. Still want to comment

I know what the (bleep) you are talking about, but I just don’t trash on our players like you do. since you are a known clippers fan, I could care less.
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PostPosted: Sun May 30, 2021 4:54 pm    Post subject:

mad55557777 wrote:
roger_federer wrote:
mad55557777 wrote:
roger_federer wrote:
mad55557777 wrote:
roger_federer wrote:
Karma is a (bleep).

This idiot was trolling clips in the middle of a series. Now AD is injured and this clown is collecting DNPs. If AD doesnt comeback, we are going home.

Speaking from a true clippers fan.


Ok genius.

Do you remember how clips players were clowning and how it ended for them?

No, but I guess you know it better than me


So you dont (bleep) about what i am talking about. Still want to comment

I know what the (bleep) you are talking about, but I just don’t trash on our players like you do. since you are a known clippers fan, I could care less.


Ok . That must make you a great laker fan

I said it before, i will say again. I am a lakers fan because i like lebron. I started watchibg basketball just a few years ago. So i dont get all the hate towards clippers or celtics.

Just like last year, i want clippers to lose before they meet us. I don't see us defeating clippers. It was tough last year and will be tougher this year.
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PostPosted: Sun May 30, 2021 4:56 pm    Post subject:

roger_federer wrote:
mad55557777 wrote:
roger_federer wrote:
mad55557777 wrote:
roger_federer wrote:
mad55557777 wrote:
roger_federer wrote:
Karma is a (bleep).

This idiot was trolling clips in the middle of a series. Now AD is injured and this clown is collecting DNPs. If AD doesnt comeback, we are going home.

Speaking from a true clippers fan.


Ok genius.

Do you remember how clips players were clowning and how it ended for them?

No, but I guess you know it better than me


So you dont (bleep) about what i am talking about. Still want to comment

I know what the (bleep) you are talking about, but I just don’t trash on our players like you do. since you are a known clippers fan, I could care less.


Ok . That must make you a great laker fan

I said it before, i will say again. I am a lakers fan because i like lebron. I started watchibg basketball just a few years ago. So i dont get all the hate towards clippers or celtics.

Just like last year, i want clippers to lose before they meet us. I don't see us defeating clippers. It was tough last year and will be tougher this year.

Nobody cares what you are and everyone here assume you are a clipper fan anyways
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PostPosted: Sun May 30, 2021 5:02 pm    Post subject:

mad55557777 wrote:
roger_federer wrote:
mad55557777 wrote:
roger_federer wrote:
mad55557777 wrote:
roger_federer wrote:
mad55557777 wrote:
roger_federer wrote:
Karma is a (bleep).

This idiot was trolling clips in the middle of a series. Now AD is injured and this clown is collecting DNPs. If AD doesnt comeback, we are going home.

Speaking from a true clippers fan.


Ok genius.

Do you remember how clips players were clowning and how it ended for them?

No, but I guess you know it better than me


So you dont (bleep) about what i am talking about. Still want to comment

I know what the (bleep) you are talking about, but I just don’t trash on our players like you do. since you are a known clippers fan, I could care less.


Ok . That must make you a great laker fan

I said it before, i will say again. I am a lakers fan because i like lebron. I started watchibg basketball just a few years ago. So i dont get all the hate towards clippers or celtics.

Just like last year, i want clippers to lose before they meet us. I don't see us defeating clippers. It was tough last year and will be tougher this year.

Nobody cares what you are and everyone here assume you are a clipper fan anyways


Good for you all
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PostPosted: Sun May 30, 2021 5:08 pm    Post subject:

roger_federer wrote:
mad55557777 wrote:
roger_federer wrote:
mad55557777 wrote:
roger_federer wrote:
mad55557777 wrote:
roger_federer wrote:
mad55557777 wrote:
roger_federer wrote:
Karma is a (bleep).

This idiot was trolling clips in the middle of a series. Now AD is injured and this clown is collecting DNPs. If AD doesnt comeback, we are going home.

Speaking from a true clippers fan.


Ok genius.

Do you remember how clips players were clowning and how it ended for them?

No, but I guess you know it better than me


So you dont (bleep) about what i am talking about. Still want to comment

I know what the (bleep) you are talking about, but I just don’t trash on our players like you do. since you are a known clippers fan, I could care less.


Ok . That must make you a great laker fan

I said it before, i will say again. I am a lakers fan because i like lebron. I started watchibg basketball just a few years ago. So i dont get all the hate towards clippers or celtics.

Just like last year, i want clippers to lose before they meet us. I don't see us defeating clippers. It was tough last year and will be tougher this year.

Nobody cares what you are and everyone here assume you are a clipper fan anyways


Good for you all


At least it makes a little more sense with many of your posts knowing you just started watching basketball a few years ago. I have a 4 year old nephew I watch some games with and I get a very similar vibe with you two. You'll understand the game one day though, hopefully.
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PostPosted: Sun May 30, 2021 5:21 pm    Post subject:

This kid is originally from a troll basketball forum and has gotten banned multiple times. No idea why he thinks his awful takes would be welcome here.
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PostPosted: Sun May 30, 2021 5:29 pm    Post subject:

AirTupac wrote:
This kid is originally from a troll basketball forum and has gotten banned multiple times. No idea why he thinks his awful takes would be welcome here.


What
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PostPosted: Sun May 30, 2021 5:52 pm    Post subject:

Maybe this is the time he step up if AD will not play next game, but Vogel needs to put him @ PF with Gasol as Center.
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PostPosted: Sun May 30, 2021 5:57 pm    Post subject:

roger_federer wrote:
AirTupac wrote:
This kid is originally from a troll basketball forum and has gotten banned multiple times. No idea why he thinks his awful takes would be welcome here.


What


What your flippers ass..
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PostPosted: Sun May 30, 2021 6:00 pm    Post subject:

We need offense - play Trezz, he can deal with scrub crowder
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PostPosted: Sun May 30, 2021 6:14 pm    Post subject:

BandwagonLBJhopper wrote:
We need offense - play Trezz, he can deal with scrub crowder


As PF maybe he can.
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PostPosted: Sun May 30, 2021 6:25 pm    Post subject:

We burned our MLE on a guy who doesn’t even play?
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