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PostPosted: Sat May 01, 2021 6:55 am    Post subject:

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That early blown dunk was the writing on the wall last night. Lebron and DS ran a beautiful pick n roll, enabling Lebron to spoon feed Drummond a ball that Dwight or JaVale would've slammed effortlessly. Instead Drum loses the ball going up and it leads to an easy lay-up for Sacramento.

I wanted Drummond, but I'm still not sure that he's a net positive over Gasol. Somewhat comically his offensive rebounding isn't even that valuable considering our awful half court offense.


He scored 17 points on 7-11 shooting (3-4 from the line). I just don't know what people are expecting from him. I saw DB's review and I just don't agree, he was fine offensively and I think he should close out games.


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PostPosted: Sat May 01, 2021 6:56 am    Post subject:

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That early blown dunk was the writing on the wall last night. Lebron and DS ran a beautiful pick n roll, enabling Lebron to spoon feed Drummond a ball that Dwight or JaVale would've slammed effortlessly. Instead Drum loses the ball going up and it leads to an easy lay-up for Sacramento.

I wanted Drummond, but I'm still not sure that he's a net positive over Gasol. Somewhat comically his offensive rebounding isn't even that valuable considering our awful half court offense.


He wasn’t horrible in the third quarter, the game was
lost to start the fourth quarter as the kings took all the momentum. Vogel has to play him only about 20 minutes in the playoffs though. Too much penguin and teams will pick and roll him to death.
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PostPosted: Sat May 01, 2021 6:56 am    Post subject:

PenG_ wrote:
That early blown dunk was the writing on the wall last night. Lebron and DS ran a beautiful pick n roll, enabling Lebron to spoon feed Drummond a ball that Dwight or JaVale would've slammed effortlessly. Instead Drum loses the ball going up and it leads to an easy lay-up for Sacramento.

I wanted Drummond, but I'm still not sure that he's a net positive over Gasol. Somewhat comically his offensive rebounding isn't even that valuable considering our awful half court offense.


He wasn’t horrible in the third quarter, the game was
lost to start the fourth quarter as the kings took all the momentum. Vogel has to play him only about 20 minutes in the playoffs though. Too much penguin and teams will pick and roll him to death.
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PostPosted: Sat May 01, 2021 6:56 am    Post subject:

PenG_ wrote:
That early blown dunk was the writing on the wall last night. Lebron and DS ran a beautiful pick n roll, enabling Lebron to spoon feed Drummond a ball that Dwight or JaVale would've slammed effortlessly. Instead Drum loses the ball going up and it leads to an easy lay-up for Sacramento.

I wanted Drummond, but I'm still not sure that he's a net positive over Gasol. Somewhat comically his offensive rebounding isn't even that valuable considering our awful half court offense.


He wasn’t horrible in the third quarter, the game was
lost to start the fourth quarter as the kings took all the momentum. Vogel has to play him only about 20 minutes in the playoffs though. Too much penguin and teams will pick and roll him to death.
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PostPosted: Sat May 01, 2021 7:11 am    Post subject:

I really want to like him, but all I see is an unfocused, low bbiq empty stats guy. I don't know if he's tired or what, but he also looks lazy out there a lot of the time, which is weird for someone who gets so many rebounds.
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PostPosted: Sat May 01, 2021 7:15 am    Post subject:

Lucky_Shot wrote:
PenG_ wrote:
That early blown dunk was the writing on the wall last night. Lebron and DS ran a beautiful pick n roll, enabling Lebron to spoon feed Drummond a ball that Dwight or JaVale would've slammed effortlessly. Instead Drum loses the ball going up and it leads to an easy lay-up for Sacramento.

I wanted Drummond, but I'm still not sure that he's a net positive over Gasol. Somewhat comically his offensive rebounding isn't even that valuable considering our awful half court offense.


He scored 17 points on 7-11 shooting (3-4 from the line). I just don't know what people are expecting from him. I saw DB's review and I just don't agree, he was fine offensively and I think he should close out games.


If Andre Drummond is closing playoff games we can start booking vacation flights.
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PostPosted: Sat May 01, 2021 7:28 am    Post subject:

ocho wrote:
Lucky_Shot wrote:
PenG_ wrote:
That early blown dunk was the writing on the wall last night. Lebron and DS ran a beautiful pick n roll, enabling Lebron to spoon feed Drummond a ball that Dwight or JaVale would've slammed effortlessly. Instead Drum loses the ball going up and it leads to an easy lay-up for Sacramento.

I wanted Drummond, but I'm still not sure that he's a net positive over Gasol. Somewhat comically his offensive rebounding isn't even that valuable considering our awful half court offense.


He scored 17 points on 7-11 shooting (3-4 from the line). I just don't know what people are expecting from him. I saw DB's review and I just don't agree, he was fine offensively and I think he should close out games.


If Andre Drummond is closing playoff games we can start booking vacation flights.


I think you have a bad opinion
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PostPosted: Sat May 01, 2021 7:51 am    Post subject:

Lucky_Shot wrote:
ocho wrote:
Lucky_Shot wrote:
PenG_ wrote:
That early blown dunk was the writing on the wall last night. Lebron and DS ran a beautiful pick n roll, enabling Lebron to spoon feed Drummond a ball that Dwight or JaVale would've slammed effortlessly. Instead Drum loses the ball going up and it leads to an easy lay-up for Sacramento.

I wanted Drummond, but I'm still not sure that he's a net positive over Gasol. Somewhat comically his offensive rebounding isn't even that valuable considering our awful half court offense.


He scored 17 points on 7-11 shooting (3-4 from the line). I just don't know what people are expecting from him. I saw DB's review and I just don't agree, he was fine offensively and I think he should close out games.


If Andre Drummond is closing playoff games we can start booking vacation flights.


I think you have a bad opinion


Lol that is your right. But AD at C is the straw that stirs our playoff drink. Clogging the paint and putting a low IQ player out there in crunch time is not a recipe for success. Javale wasn’t closing playoff games either.
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PostPosted: Sat May 01, 2021 8:48 am    Post subject:

People see 1 or 2 dumb plays by AD2 and they blow it out of proportion. Its weird. Its like people cant wait to see him fail or say "DWIGHT!!!!!". Altho Vogel does really need to get Marc minutes when necessary.
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PostPosted: Sat May 01, 2021 9:43 am    Post subject:

Offense not the issue with him. It's his defensive. He sometimes gives up on plays when he screws up on the offensive side of things. Have to have that fire on D. You know AD is going to be soft so he needs to be more aggressive in the low block.
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PostPosted: Sat May 01, 2021 10:06 am    Post subject:

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Offense not the issue with him. It's his defensive. He sometimes gives up on plays when he screws up on the offensive side of things. Have to have that fire on D. You know AD is going to be soft so he needs to be more aggressive in the low block.


It’s both.
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PostPosted: Sat May 01, 2021 10:29 am    Post subject:

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Offense not the issue with him. It's his defensive. He sometimes gives up on plays when he screws up on the offensive side of things. Have to have that fire on D. You know AD is going to be soft so he needs to be more aggressive in the low block.


I’m confused. If Drummond is not supposedly good on offense, then what is it that makes him an all star? It has to be defense, right?

Can you even be an elite rebounder but a below average defender?
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PostPosted: Sat May 01, 2021 11:02 am    Post subject:

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Offense not the issue with him. It's his defensive. He sometimes gives up on plays when he screws up on the offensive side of things. Have to have that fire on D. You know AD is going to be soft so he needs to be more aggressive in the low block.


Sometimes it looks like he's just trying to stay out of the way. Problem is, he's staying out of the way of the other team too.
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PostPosted: Sat May 01, 2021 11:29 am    Post subject:

ocho wrote:
Lucky_Shot wrote:
PenG_ wrote:
That early blown dunk was the writing on the wall last night. Lebron and DS ran a beautiful pick n roll, enabling Lebron to spoon feed Drummond a ball that Dwight or JaVale would've slammed effortlessly. Instead Drum loses the ball going up and it leads to an easy lay-up for Sacramento.

I wanted Drummond, but I'm still not sure that he's a net positive over Gasol. Somewhat comically his offensive rebounding isn't even that valuable considering our awful half court offense.


He scored 17 points on 7-11 shooting (3-4 from the line). I just don't know what people are expecting from him. I saw DB's review and I just don't agree, he was fine offensively and I think he should close out games.


If Andre Drummond is closing playoff games we can start booking vacation flights.


I don’t think they want to showcase that until playoffs. I think they’re trying to build those two chemistry even if it comes at the expense of wins.
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ahaider wrote:
ocho wrote:
Lucky_Shot wrote:
PenG_ wrote:
That early blown dunk was the writing on the wall last night. Lebron and DS ran a beautiful pick n roll, enabling Lebron to spoon feed Drummond a ball that Dwight or JaVale would've slammed effortlessly. Instead Drum loses the ball going up and it leads to an easy lay-up for Sacramento.

I wanted Drummond, but I'm still not sure that he's a net positive over Gasol. Somewhat comically his offensive rebounding isn't even that valuable considering our awful half court offense.


He scored 17 points on 7-11 shooting (3-4 from the line). I just don't know what people are expecting from him. I saw DB's review and I just don't agree, he was fine offensively and I think he should close out games.


If Andre Drummond is closing playoff games we can start booking vacation flights.


I don’t think they want to showcase that until playoffs. I think they’re trying to build those two chemistry even if it comes at the expense of wins.


I agree. Vogel essentially forfeited the game by keeping Drummond in for so long in crunch time. I don’t get the sense that winning these last 9 games is very important to the staff.
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PostPosted: Sun May 02, 2021 4:10 pm    Post subject:

Lucky_Shot wrote:
PenG_ wrote:
That early blown dunk was the writing on the wall last night. Lebron and DS ran a beautiful pick n roll, enabling Lebron to spoon feed Drummond a ball that Dwight or JaVale would've slammed effortlessly. Instead Drum loses the ball going up and it leads to an easy lay-up for Sacramento.

I wanted Drummond, but I'm still not sure that he's a net positive over Gasol. Somewhat comically his offensive rebounding isn't even that valuable considering our awful half court offense.


He scored 17 points on 7-11 shooting (3-4 from the line). I just don't know what people are expecting from him. I saw DB's review and I just don't agree, he was fine offensively and I think he should close out games.


Close out games? Lol. They tried against the Kings on Friday and he got destroyed nearly every time down the floor on a pick and roll while the Kings basically ignored him on offense. He should have been benched far sooner than he was.
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PostPosted: Sun May 02, 2021 5:57 pm    Post subject:

ocho wrote:
ahaider wrote:
ocho wrote:
Lucky_Shot wrote:
PenG_ wrote:
That early blown dunk was the writing on the wall last night. Lebron and DS ran a beautiful pick n roll, enabling Lebron to spoon feed Drummond a ball that Dwight or JaVale would've slammed effortlessly. Instead Drum loses the ball going up and it leads to an easy lay-up for Sacramento.

I wanted Drummond, but I'm still not sure that he's a net positive over Gasol. Somewhat comically his offensive rebounding isn't even that valuable considering our awful half court offense.


He scored 17 points on 7-11 shooting (3-4 from the line). I just don't know what people are expecting from him. I saw DB's review and I just don't agree, he was fine offensively and I think he should close out games.


If Andre Drummond is closing playoff games we can start booking vacation flights.


I don’t think they want to showcase that until playoffs. I think they’re trying to build those two chemistry even if it comes at the expense of wins.


I agree. Vogel essentially forfeited the game by keeping Drummond in for so long in crunch time. I don’t get the sense that winning these last 9 games is very important to the staff.


He forfeited the game by never playing Gasol again in the 2nd half, and playing lineups of Kief with Trezz instead of Trezz and Gasol.
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PostPosted: Sun May 02, 2021 6:26 pm    Post subject:

They throw him a lot of lobs. I can't tell if they expect him to get more vertical or if they think he will anchor well and come down with it.
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PostPosted: Sun May 02, 2021 7:57 pm    Post subject:

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If they can land Drummond then the Lakers title hopes are still alive.

If they can't I expect them to lose in the WC playoffs.


Boy I need to amend this. Are they even going to make the playoffs?
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PostPosted: Sun May 02, 2021 8:28 pm    Post subject:

This guys is horrible. Either the front office is pushing drummond on Vogel or Vogel is being stubbornly idiotic in his coaching.

In doing so, they've alienated Gasol and we're back to not having a serviceable big. This post season will be another rush to get a big.

Were back to where we started.

Drummond is just not a good player. I don't want to see him wearing this jersey anymore
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PostPosted: Sun May 02, 2021 8:31 pm    Post subject:

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This guys is horrible. Either the front office is pushing drummond on Vogel or Vogel is being stubbornly idiotic in his coaching.

In doing so, they've alienated Gasol and we're back to not having a serviceable big. This post season will be another rush to get a big.

Were back to where we started.

Drummond is just not a good player. I don't want to see him wearing this jersey anymore


His tendency to miss the gimmies is very frustrating, I wonder why the FO was so quick to discussion extension with him in the off season.
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PostPosted: Sun May 02, 2021 9:29 pm    Post subject:

I wouldn't resign him unless he accepts the mMLE. Just hasn't produced or impacted important games the way he should be able to.
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PostPosted: Sun May 02, 2021 9:39 pm    Post subject:

Both him and Trezz played harder on offense than AD, at least effortwise, but sometimes he makes boneheaded mistakes like McGee.
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PostPosted: Sun May 02, 2021 9:51 pm    Post subject:

Theres a reason why he got bought out. It is because he is trash. Dwight would run circles around him.
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PostPosted: Sun May 02, 2021 10:39 pm    Post subject:

I’m not going to bash the guy because at least he is playing hard out there. More than you can say for Davis.
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