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PostPosted: Wed Jul 21, 2021 9:16 am    Post subject:

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 21, 2021 9:19 am    Post subject:

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No one is discussing the fact that a Suns team with two superstars and who beat the Lakers and the Clippers lost FOUR. GAMES. IN. A. ROW. in the NBA finals.

Healthy lakers or clippers beat the suns
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 21, 2021 9:26 am    Post subject:

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troy wrote:
No one is discussing the fact that a Suns team with two superstars and who beat the Lakers and the Clippers lost FOUR. GAMES. IN. A. ROW. in the NBA finals.

Healthy lakers or clippers beat the suns

or Denver
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 21, 2021 9:28 am    Post subject:

I thought Twitter was boycotting Chick-Fil-A?

Kudos to Giannis for celebrating like a G and not giving a (bleep). I'm craving some right now.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 21, 2021 10:49 am    Post subject:

LakerSD wrote:
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I still remember the Lakers vividly after winning the 2009 WCF. In the team photo, it looked like they wanted to dump the WCF trophy in the trash. Kobe even said that second place means you're the first loser after the 08 loss to Boston.

The Suns are a young team, and they'll learn from this. One thing to note is that making the finals again is never guaranteed. Some teams only get there once and take decades to come back (after 3-4 rebuilds). I'm not sure if the Suns still have a window.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 21, 2021 11:20 am    Post subject:

Milwaukee played like a nervous choking wreck and still won because the Suns were even bigger chokers.

I wouldn't take them lightly as they have room to improve next season.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 21, 2021 11:20 am    Post subject:

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That had to be CP3's last real chance if he stays in Phoenix

So much went right for these two teams to be in the Finals.

Unless he walks away from the money and ring chases with the Lakers or Nets, this is it.


And he would be an idiot to walk away from that much money.


Maybe so. But he's made a lot of money in his career (supposedly $250M+) and he seems to be a die-hard competitive who would actually consider doing it if he wants to win a championship above all else. Does he want to be remembered and talked about like John Stockton/Karl Malone/Charles Barkley?

At this point he's playing for legacy. He's near the end of the road, so we'll find out what he values more. A championship, or money.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 21, 2021 11:25 am    Post subject:

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I still remember the Lakers vividly after winning the 2009 WCF. In the team photo, it looked like they wanted to dump the WCF trophy in the trash. Kobe even said that second place means you're the first loser after the 08 loss to Boston.

The Suns are a young team, and they'll learn from this. One thing to note is that making the finals again is never guaranteed. Some teams only get there once and take decades to come back (after 3-4 rebuilds). I'm not sure if the Suns still have a window.


If Chris Paul leaves, then suddenly they become a first round exit team.

Lakers, Nuggets, Warriors, and Jazz would all clearly be better. Even Kawhi-less Clippers and Mavericks might be.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 21, 2021 11:38 am    Post subject:

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Milwaukee played like a nervous choking wreck and still won because the Suns were even bigger chokers.

I wouldn't take them lightly as they have room to improve next season.


Actually the Bucks started the series that way but played a lot looser and more confident the last 2-3 games.

Don't know if they saw that they had a major size advantage over the Suns or just started playing bully ball.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 21, 2021 11:49 am    Post subject:

Happy for Jrue. Some of the Pelican fans I know are really happy for him.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 21, 2021 11:51 am    Post subject:

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Happy for Jrue. Some of the Pelican fans I know are really happy for him.


How do they feel about David Griffin?
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 21, 2021 11:54 am    Post subject:

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Poor Suns.
I think CP3 stays, but if he leaves I'm not sure the Suns will find a good enough replacement to make it back.

It sucks for them because DA and Mikal might get max type money while not being max type players, imo. Sucks for them. But makes me feel all warm and fuzzy inside
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 21, 2021 1:21 pm    Post subject:

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I get it but comparing us, mj and a few other to anyone else is ridiculous. We expect to win rings or its a fail. the suns got swept up in the mania. i assume if they did it next year it would be different.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 21, 2021 1:29 pm    Post subject:

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Yeah… That was a bad look. I made a comment about it somewhere in this thread when it happened. I get they’re happy and everything and reaching the WCF was definitely an accomplishment but it wasn’t the final destination so throwing a parade was a bit much. Oh well. Maybe they can do it again next year except they won’t because we’ll be WCF champs next season so oh well.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 21, 2021 1:49 pm    Post subject:

Giannis ordering 50 Mini nuggets this morning
https://streamable.com/4bpiuv


He is SOOOO Happy to say FIFTY "FIFTY!"
One of the very best days of his life for sure


LeBron restructures his contract? and we sign Giannis, AD. Lebron.. FTW
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 21, 2021 2:19 pm    Post subject:

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Giannis ordering 50 Mini nuggets this morning
https://streamable.com/4bpiuv


He is SOOOO Happy to say FIFTY "FIFTY!"
One of the very best days of his life for sure


LeBron restructures his contract? and we sign Giannis, AD. Lebron.. FTW

Freak is amazing on so many levels. So happy for him
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 21, 2021 2:50 pm    Post subject:

Halflife wrote:
ContagiousInspiration wrote:
Giannis ordering 50 Mini nuggets this morning
https://streamable.com/4bpiuv


He is SOOOO Happy to say FIFTY "FIFTY!"
One of the very best days of his life for sure


LeBron restructures his contract? and we sign Giannis, AD. Lebron.. FTW

Freak is amazing on so many levels. So happy for him


LOL! Life is good for the Freak. I am happy for him. What I realized during this post season is that everyone is fair game. If you can crap on the Freak, you can do it to anybody. I was very surprised at the hate. Talking about his fake mean mugging, his peers saying he has no skills, etc. This dude seems like a genuine nice dude like Hakeem was. Good for him!
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 21, 2021 2:52 pm    Post subject:

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I mean I’m sure if you look back at MJ, Kobe and LBJ’s first CF win they’re celebrating too. Doing something for the first time [in your career] is always going to be special. And it was also the city’s first in like 30 years.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 21, 2021 2:54 pm    Post subject:

Giannis quote:

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“We might never win another one. It's fine. We did it. We did what we're supposed to do. And I’d rather do it this way — win one this way than go somewhere else in a super team and win two or three.”


I don't know about that fam.
Ideally you want to win multiple rings with your drafted team.
I respect your choice, but if the choice is 1 or 3, I gotta go with the latter.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 21, 2021 3:43 pm    Post subject:

epic_ wrote:
Giannis quote:

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“We might never win another one. It's fine. We did it. We did what we're supposed to do. And I’d rather do it this way — win one this way than go somewhere else in a super team and win two or three.”


I don't know about that fam.
Ideally you want to win multiple rings with your drafted team.
I respect your choice, but if the choice is 1 or 3, I gotta go with the latter.


Seems a very in the moment type comment.

He will probably change his tune when narratives inevitably come up again and people start saying the only reason he got 1 was because the favorites were too injured (Nets, Lakers, Clippers).
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 21, 2021 3:46 pm    Post subject:

epic_ wrote:
Giannis quote:

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Malika Andrews
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“We might never win another one. It's fine. We did it. We did what we're supposed to do. And I’d rather do it this way — win one this way than go somewhere else in a super team and win two or three.”


I don't know about that fam.
Ideally you want to win multiple rings with your drafted team.
I respect your choice, but if the choice is 1 or 3, I gotta go with the latter.

I’ll take multiple. Thanks
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 21, 2021 3:52 pm    Post subject:

Lamar's Bud wrote:
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That had to be CP3's last real chance if he stays in Phoenix

So much went right for these two teams to be in the Finals.

Unless he walks away from the money and ring chases with the Lakers or Nets, this is it.


And he would be an idiot to walk away from that much money.


Maybe so. But he's made a lot of money in his career (supposedly $250M+) and he seems to be a die-hard competitive who would actually consider doing it if he wants to win a championship above all else. Does he want to be remembered and talked about like John Stockton/Karl Malone/Charles Barkley?

At this point he's playing for legacy. He's near the end of the road, so we'll find out what he values more. A championship, or money.


Spoiler alert: it’s money. He didn’t help change the CBA to enable him and Lebron to ink massive contracts in their sunset years to give it up now. At best, he opts out to re-ink for a multiple year long term contract (3 year/100 million minimum, IMO) and maybe tries to force a sign and trade. Pretty much a zero percent chance he signs for a MLE or mini-mle level contract.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 21, 2021 3:58 pm    Post subject:

troy wrote:
No one is discussing the fact that a Suns team with two superstars and who beat the Lakers and the Clippers lost FOUR. GAMES. IN. A. ROW. in the NBA finals.


A lot harder to win a series when the other team’s superstar player doesn’t go down with an injury that takes them out of the series. Even against Denver, Denver didn’t lose a superstar, but Jamal Murray is an all star at the very least and is their second best player.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 21, 2021 4:28 pm    Post subject:

troy wrote:
No one is discussing the fact that a Suns team with two superstars and who beat the Lakers and the Clippers lost FOUR. GAMES. IN. A. ROW. in the NBA finals.


It's inexcusable.

The weirdest thing about these finals is that there was only one game where the Bucks looked like the clear-cut better team.

Suns were clearly better in games 1 and 2

Bucks were clearly better in game 3

The rest of the games were evenly matched, despite Giannis putting up godly numbers.

I guess it's indicative of how far the 3pt shot has come, and teams can straight up trade 2s for 3s without missing a beat.

People will say the Suns were inexperienced, but CP3 and Crowder have played in 200+ combined playoff games. The onus was on them to reel guys like Booker and Ayton in.

The Bucks won it because the Suns didn't adjust. Bud ran circles around Monty. Booker played with tunnel vision and refused to make plays for his teammates. CP3 didn't take advantage of the PnR schemes. Ayton needed TONS of lobs thrown to him when the Bucks went small. They made all these silly mistakes that cost them the series.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 21, 2021 4:33 pm    Post subject:

The Bucks are just not a good matchup for the Suns imo.

They have too much beef for the Suns to handle. The Lakers were too injured. Denver isn’t that type of team and neither are the Clippers.

Bucks just physically beat down the Suns. They also had their version of Caruso in Holiday who neutralized Booker or CP3 depending on assignment.

The Suns just never faced a team like the Bucks that could beat them down. The Lakers, if healthy, would have done the same.
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