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epic_ Franchise Player
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Posted: Mon Jun 21, 2021 6:30 pm Post subject: |
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MJST wrote: | Halflife wrote: | MJST wrote: | AD23 wrote: | roger_federer wrote: | what has rob done?
did amazing paperwork. |
How's Kawhi's knee |
How's AD's everything? |
Resting his leg on a trophy probably |
Whereas Kawhi is thinking about his... while working hard to come back in the WCF that his team is in. |
Is this about Julius?
Wondering why the hate on AD while propping up Kawhi? _________________ 💜💛 🏆 👀 🍖 #18!!! |
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jodeke Retired Number
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Posted: Mon Jun 21, 2021 6:48 pm Post subject: |
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I'm remembering how Kawhi thought his injury in SA was misdiagnosed and mishandled. Either he or the Clippers are erring on the side of caution.
Leonard is a FA. I think he'll stay with the Clippers. I believe LA is where he wants to be.
I don't think he'll play tomorrow. If they win his return is up in the air. _________________ Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind.
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MJST Retired Number
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Posted: Mon Jun 21, 2021 7:18 pm Post subject: |
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If Kawhi had an ACL tear, I would assume that he wouldn't be backstage standing and applauding when they won their series.
If you watch backstage when they are celebrating, Kawhi is sitting on his phone like he's been rehabbing backstage, and then stands up and claps with the rest of the team. _________________ How NBA 2K18 failed the All-Time Lakers:
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Posted: Mon Jun 21, 2021 7:25 pm Post subject: |
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jodeke wrote: | I'm remembering how Kawhi thought his injury in SA was misdiagnosed and mishandled. Either he or the Clippers are erring on the side of caution.
Leonard is a FA. I think he'll stay with the Clippers. I believe LA is where he wants to be.
I don't think he'll play tomorrow. If they win his return is up in the air. |
He's officially out for game 2. _________________ Nobody in the NBA can touch the Laker brand, which, like the uniform color, is pure gold. |
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Posted: Mon Jun 21, 2021 7:28 pm Post subject: |
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Kawhi it's likely out for the rest of the series and probably out the rest of the playoffs if they make it to the finals. _________________ Nobody in the NBA can touch the Laker brand, which, like the uniform color, is pure gold. |
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LakerSD Franchise Player
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Posted: Mon Jun 21, 2021 7:31 pm Post subject: |
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MJST wrote: | If Kawhi had an ACL tear, I would assume that he wouldn't be backstage standing and applauding when they won their series. |
You can stand or even (briefly) play on an ACL tear.
They are either trying to psyche out the opponent or it’s legit a knee sprain. |
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epic_ Franchise Player
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Posted: Mon Jun 21, 2021 7:38 pm Post subject: |
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LakerSD wrote: | MJST wrote: | If Kawhi had an ACL tear, I would assume that he wouldn't be backstage standing and applauding when they won their series. |
You can stand or even (briefly) play on an ACL tear.
They are either trying to psyche out the opponent or it’s legit a knee sprain. |
Are Skip Bayless' sauces ever wrong? 😳 _________________ 💜💛 🏆 👀 🍖 #18!!! |
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jodeke Retired Number
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Posted: Mon Jun 21, 2021 8:08 pm Post subject: |
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MJST wrote: | jodeke wrote: | AD23 wrote: | Halflife wrote: | MJST wrote: | Halflife wrote: | MJST wrote: | AD23 wrote: | roger_federer wrote: | what has rob done?
did amazing paperwork. |
How's Kawhi's knee |
How's AD's everything? |
Resting his leg on a trophy probably |
Whereas Kawhi is thinking about his... while working hard to come back in the WCF that his team is in. |
we dont know if hes working hard to come back. he planned on being free this summer. does he jeopardize that for a ring run? we dont know. Its a scary injury. If he tweaks it his hand is forced. he took a year off and quit on a team to rehab.
he should be on the court now if he can walk. Embiid was, harden. Even AD tried. |
Is it a sprain? Or is it a tear?
Lets assume it's a sprain, well it happened a week ago Monday. He's out at the very minimum another week. Then he's back from a sprain in 2 weeks? He would be lucky to play at 60-70%.
Plus that ACL won't be stable, go ask KD about pushing an injury. Remember his calf injury he came back too soon and ended up rupturing his achilles. |
Skip Bayless said he needs surgery. |
NBA Central
@TheNBACentral Jun 20
"He’s doing everything he can to get back as fast as possible."
- Reggie Jackson on Kawhi Leonard
(h/t @TomerAzarly) |
That's not saying much. Gut feeling, I don't think Leonard's coming back this season.
Reggie Jackson has positive update about Kawhi Leonard’s health?
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Quote: | “He’s doing everything he can to make an impact from afar and he’s doing everything he can to get back as fast as possible,” said Jackson of the two-time Finals MVP, per Tomer Azarly of ClutchPoints. |
_________________ Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind.
America will never be destroyed from the outside. If we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves. |
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Posted: Tue Jun 22, 2021 8:47 am Post subject: |
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MJST wrote: | 32 wrote: | Quote: | Chris Paul remains in Health and Safety Protocol per the Phoenix Suns and is listed as out for Game 2. |
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They're gonna need another 40 point triple double from Booker. |
Nah. He just needs to outplay Pandemic P and they will be alright. _________________ Nobody in the NBA can touch the Laker brand, which, like the uniform color, is pure gold. |
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Posted: Tue Jun 22, 2021 9:43 am Post subject: |
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If you are a clipper fanboy you can make some good cash betting on the clippers to win the title right now.
Vegas odds tonight
Game 1: Bucks -7
Game 2: Suns -4 1/2
Odds to win the championship:
Bucks +110
Suns +170
Clippers +700
Hawks +1100 _________________ Nobody in the NBA can touch the Laker brand, which, like the uniform color, is pure gold. |
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Posted: Tue Jun 22, 2021 9:45 am Post subject: |
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32 wrote: | If you are a clipper fanboy you can make some good cash betting on the clippers to win the title right now.
Vegas odds tonight
Game 1: Bucks -7
Game 2: Suns -4 1/2
Odds to win the championship:
Bucks +110
Suns +170
Clippers +700
Hawks +1100 |
Quote: | NBA Championship winner updated
Bucks 11/10
Suns 7/5
Hawks 10/1
Clippers 12/1
Eastern Conference Finals Series Price
Hawks +400
Bucks -500
Western Conference Finals Series Price
Clippers +330
Suns -400 |
Looks like it’s going around Vegas circles that Kawhi is most likely out. |
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Posted: Tue Jun 22, 2021 9:45 am Post subject: |
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Kawhi is not the type of guy to play hurt. Remember the Spurs medical staff cleared him but he didn't want to play still. If he's hurt, he's not playing. _________________ From 2-10 to the Western Conference Finals |
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Posted: Tue Jun 22, 2021 10:05 am Post subject: |
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Some online betting sites are taking action on what player will win the finals MVP. Kawhi Leonard is currently not even listed. Paul George is +900. _________________ Nobody in the NBA can touch the Laker brand, which, like the uniform color, is pure gold. |
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Posted: Tue Jun 22, 2021 12:27 pm Post subject: |
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yinoma2001 wrote: | Kawhi is not the type of guy to play hurt. Remember the Spurs medical staff cleared him but he didn't want to play still. If he's hurt, he's not playing. |
Good read. It might change a few minds.
A complete timeline of how the relationship between Kawhi Leonard and the Spurs fell apart
LINK _________________ Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind.
America will never be destroyed from the outside. If we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves. |
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Posted: Tue Jun 22, 2021 12:36 pm Post subject: |
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Do we know if CP3 is in or out tonight yet? |
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jodeke Retired Number
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Posted: Tue Jun 22, 2021 12:38 pm Post subject: |
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32 wrote: | Some online betting sites are taking action on what player will win the finals MVP. Kawhi Leonard is currently not even listed. Paul George is +900. |
Three Two, you a gambler? _________________ Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind.
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epic_ Franchise Player
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Posted: Tue Jun 22, 2021 12:47 pm Post subject: |
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jodeke wrote: | yinoma2001 wrote: | Kawhi is not the type of guy to play hurt. Remember the Spurs medical staff cleared him but he didn't want to play still. If he's hurt, he's not playing. |
Good read. It might change a few minds.
A complete timeline of how the relationship between Kawhi Leonard and the Spurs fell apart
LINK |
Thanks for the link. Interesting read.
My fave was Pop's quote on Kawhi's leadership.
Quote: | Kawhi was a great player, but he wasn’t a leader. Manu and Patty were the leaders. Kawhi’s talent will always be missed, but leadership wasn’t his deal at the time. That may come as progresses. Patty and Manu filled that role for us last year. LaMarcus Aldridge came a long way as a leader also. |
And we know this about Kawhi now. _________________ 💜💛 🏆 👀 🍖 #18!!! |
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Posted: Tue Jun 22, 2021 12:47 pm Post subject: |
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Runway8 wrote: | Do we know if CP3 is in or out tonight yet? |
Yesterday they had him as out. _________________ 💜💛 🏆 👀 🍖 #18!!! |
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Posted: Tue Jun 22, 2021 12:50 pm Post subject: |
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jodeke wrote: | 32 wrote: | Some online betting sites are taking action on what player will win the finals MVP. Kawhi Leonard is currently not even listed. Paul George is +900. |
Three Two, you a gambler? |
I have off and on over the years. Not much lately. _________________ Nobody in the NBA can touch the Laker brand, which, like the uniform color, is pure gold. |
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Posted: Tue Jun 22, 2021 12:54 pm Post subject: |
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epic_ wrote: | MJST wrote: | Halflife wrote: | MJST wrote: | AD23 wrote: | roger_federer wrote: | what has rob done?
did amazing paperwork. |
How's Kawhi's knee |
How's AD's everything? |
Resting his leg on a trophy probably |
Whereas Kawhi is thinking about his... while working hard to come back in the WCF that his team is in. |
Is this about Julius?
Wondering why the hate on AD while propping up Kawhi? |
Rob getting bashed, AD getting bashed. Is this residual effects of Maginka takeover and trading away all the kids? Are there still people mad about that? Puzzling why supposed Laker fans are getting testy defending the Clippers. |
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Posted: Tue Jun 22, 2021 1:08 pm Post subject: |
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epic_ wrote: | jodeke wrote: | yinoma2001 wrote: | Kawhi is not the type of guy to play hurt. Remember the Spurs medical staff cleared him but he didn't want to play still. If he's hurt, he's not playing. |
Good read. It might change a few minds.
A complete timeline of how the relationship between Kawhi Leonard and the Spurs fell apart
LINK |
Thanks for the link. Interesting read.
My fave was Pop's quote on Kawhi's leadership.
Quote: | Kawhi was a great player, but he wasn’t a leader. Manu and Patty were the leaders. Kawhi’s talent will always be missed, but leadership wasn’t his deal at the time. That may come as progresses. Patty and Manu filled that role for us last year. LaMarcus Aldridge came a long way as a leader also. |
And we know this about Kawhi now. |
Here's another excerpt from the article.
Quote: | July 24, 2018
In the inaugural episode of his new podcast, Green revealed that he, too, had an injury that ended up being more severe than the Spurs’ doctors let on:
So throughout the season we’ve monitored it, but we never went back to check on it again, because so many other injuries have happened. And I could have gotten a second opinion, so I see where Kawhi [Leonard] is coming from when he got his second opinion. Because a lot of times, you’ll get information from outside sources, and not saying the Spurs staff is not up to par, it’s just not everybody is a specialist in every area. So it’s not like they’re a specialist in the groin area or a sports hernia, maybe. So to go to a guy who may be in Philly to get a second opinion shouldn’t hurt.
So end of the season, come to find out, it could have happened that day or the playoff series against Golden State, we don’t know, but to end the season I had to get another MRI, because you get an exit physical. The strain was still there with a little tear.
Though Green was adamant in defending the Spurs’ medical staff, the fact that he, too, had a dispute with the team over the severity of an injury adds additional context to Leonard’s beef. |
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Posted: Tue Jun 22, 2021 1:50 pm Post subject: |
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Kawai doesn’t need to be a leader. Just be elite. The problem now is that that is slipping. He’s still dope but I can’t imagine any player at anytime has ever looked to kawai for leadership |
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Posted: Tue Jun 22, 2021 1:55 pm Post subject: |
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Halflife wrote: | Kawai doesn’t need to be a leader. Just be elite. The problem now is that that is slipping. He’s still dope but I can’t imagine any player at anytime has ever looked to kawai for leadership |
Remember just a couple years ago people were saying Kawhi was the best in the game? How quickly things change.
Back to leadership, Kawhi scoffed at Pop's comment. Kawhi feels he's a leader. Must explain why he made it a point to be standing and clapping in the background of the locker room after game 6. _________________ 💜💛 🏆 👀 🍖 #18!!! |
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epic_ wrote: | Halflife wrote: | Kawai doesn’t need to be a leader. Just be elite. The problem now is that that is slipping. He’s still dope but I can’t imagine any player at anytime has ever looked to kawai for leadership |
Remember just a couple years ago people were saying Kawhi was the best in the game? How quickly things change.
Back to leadership, Kawhi scoffed at Pop's comment. Kawhi feels he's a leader. Must explain why he made it a point to be standing and clapping in the background of the locker room after game 6. |
Kawhi is a leader like Kuz is an All Star |
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Posted: Tue Jun 22, 2021 2:09 pm Post subject: |
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AD23 wrote: | epic_ wrote: | Halflife wrote: | Kawai doesn’t need to be a leader. Just be elite. The problem now is that that is slipping. He’s still dope but I can’t imagine any player at anytime has ever looked to kawai for leadership |
Remember just a couple years ago people were saying Kawhi was the best in the game? How quickly things change.
Back to leadership, Kawhi scoffed at Pop's comment. Kawhi feels he's a leader. Must explain why he made it a point to be standing and clapping in the background of the locker room after game 6. |
Kawhi is a leader like Kuz is an All Star |
Git offin my man Kuz. _________________ Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind.
America will never be destroyed from the outside. If we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves. |
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