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PostPosted: Fri Jun 11, 2021 3:29 am    Post subject:

DrDent wrote:
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Magic really looked at Tatum, Mitchell and Fox and said yeah, lets take Lonzo Ball.


Mitchell is the one that really stands out to me just because of the story around him. If memory serves, he had an injury in college so fell in draft rankings. I remember hearing Jazz were elated to get him.

He then went off big time in Summer league. Rest is history.


He's Dwyane Wade with a jumpshot. Just crazy how he wasn't top 3.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 11, 2021 3:42 am    Post subject:

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Jazz will have to at least take one game in LA and step on their necks. Something the Mavs couldn't do. The longer the series goes, the greater the chance of seeing Kawhi Jordan appear again.


The pressure is all on the Jazz, the Clippers clearly have them where they want them.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 11, 2021 3:43 am    Post subject:

KingKobe20 wrote:
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Magic really looked at Tatum, Mitchell and Fox and said yeah, lets take Lonzo Ball.


I don’t think we got a workout with Tatum.

Either way Jayson, Donovan , and Deaaron would be in New Orleans right now


The Lakers didn't push for a workout with Tatum.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 11, 2021 5:12 am    Post subject:

Let's go Jazz!!!! (I feel weird sayin this)
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 11, 2021 6:11 am    Post subject:

I was a PG fan and hoped he would join the Lakers and LBJ. Not going to lie.

But man, who wants to pay him this:

Age 32: $39,344,900
33: $42,492,492
34: $45,640,084
35: $48,787,676 (player option).
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 11, 2021 6:14 am    Post subject:

KindCrippler2000 wrote:
DrDent wrote:
RashardA wrote:
Magic really looked at Tatum, Mitchell and Fox and said yeah, lets take Lonzo Ball.


Mitchell is the one that really stands out to me just because of the story around him. If memory serves, he had an injury in college so fell in draft rankings. I remember hearing Jazz were elated to get him.

He then went off big time in Summer league. Rest is history.


He's Dwyane Wade with a jumpshot. Just crazy how he wasn't top 3.


There was probably some hesitance about his size.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 11, 2021 6:23 am    Post subject:

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Nets v Bucks: Feels like Nets will take game 4.

Clips v Jazz: Hard to bet against the Clips for game 3 as this is really a desperation game for them (as will game 4, regardless). Team with that type of talent typically takes that game 3 if down 0-2. IMO Alot will depend on whether the Clips get up on the Jazz early. If they do not - and it remains close throughout - don't be surprised to see Jazz pull that one out. I actually think Snyder has been outcoaching Lue for the most part, and that's what that may come down to.


First, nice to see the Bucks show up. Will be interesting to see if they can keep up the momentum. Thinking no, but would love to see them put some pressure on the Nets.

Secondly, Going to come down to health. How badly is Mitchell hurt? And can Conley return and contribute? Jazz going to need both healthy to finish off this series.

Lastly, clips sure are playing on the edge when it comes to intentionally trying to injure. Cousins stepped under Bogdonovich not once but twice on that sequence where he sprained his ankle in the first half. No call either time. And the collision with Mitchell was questionable IMO. Just an odd angle from the defense to have that collision.

As with the Mavs or even the Crowder examples. Whatever it takes to make the other team uncomfortable?
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 11, 2021 6:25 am    Post subject:

ThePageDude wrote:
KingKobe20 wrote:
RashardA wrote:
Magic really looked at Tatum, Mitchell and Fox and said yeah, lets take Lonzo Ball.


I don’t think we got a workout with Tatum.

Either way Jayson, Donovan , and Deaaron would be in New Orleans right now


The Lakers didn't push for a workout with Tatum.


Yes they did.

Lakers pushing for Jayson Tatum workout

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The Lakers are pushing to land a workout with Duke lottery prospect Jayson Tatum, according to Chad Ford’s of ESPN’s latest draft update.

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 11, 2021 7:01 am    Post subject:

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I was a PG fan and hoped he would join the Lakers and LBJ. Not going to lie.

But man, who wants to pay him this:

Age 32: $39,344,900
33: $42,492,492
34: $45,640,084
35: $48,787,676 (player option).

It’ll be interesting where he’s at in 2-3 years. Contracts like this used to be unmovable when a player starts to decline, but these days bad contracts get shuffled around quite a bit.

My guess is he’s going to eventually end up on some bottom barrel team (whether that is the Clippers in a couple of years or some other team) or some desperate contender in a smaller market foolishly trades for him, hoping to appease a disgruntled star and keep their team together for one last run.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 11, 2021 7:03 am    Post subject:

j-dawg wrote:
yinoma2001 wrote:
I was a PG fan and hoped he would join the Lakers and LBJ. Not going to lie.

But man, who wants to pay him this:

Age 32: $39,344,900
33: $42,492,492
34: $45,640,084
35: $48,787,676 (player option).

It’ll be interesting where he’s at in 2-3 years. Contracts like this used to be unmovable when a player starts to decline, but these days bad contracts get shuffled around quite a bit.

My guess is he’s going to eventually end up on some bottom barrel team (whether that is the Clippers in a couple of years or some other team) or some desperate contender in a smaller market foolishly trades for him, hoping to appease a disgruntled star and keep their team together for one last run.


In theory I think he will age well. May end up moving up to a small ball PF when he ages. He isn't overly reliant on athleticism.

Now, Kawhi. He's a monster. But how enthusiastic would you be to give him a 5 year deal at the full max given his injury history?
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 11, 2021 7:11 am    Post subject:

32 wrote:
ThePageDude wrote:
KingKobe20 wrote:
RashardA wrote:
Magic really looked at Tatum, Mitchell and Fox and said yeah, lets take Lonzo Ball.


I don’t think we got a workout with Tatum.

Either way Jayson, Donovan , and Deaaron would be in New Orleans right now


The Lakers didn't push for a workout with Tatum.


Yes they did.

Lakers pushing for Jayson Tatum workout

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The Lakers are pushing to land a workout with Duke lottery prospect Jayson Tatum, according to Chad Ford’s of ESPN’s latest draft update.


Yes I saw that in 2017 around draft time; clearly no such workout happened. After the draft time many assumed that Tatum had rejected a Laker workout because he had a promise from the Celtics. However in later interviews Tatum denied any such commitment to the Celtics and in fact said the following about being drafted:
Tatum idolized Kobe and wanted to play for the Lakers

In fact Tatum was convinced Phoenix was going to draft him:
Coach K convinced Tatum to consider the Celtics

Phoenix was picking #4. So Tatum's own statement suggests that until Coach K's call Tatum didn't think that Phi/Lal were interested in him, and he clearly was not interested in Bos.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 11, 2021 8:30 am    Post subject:

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In theory I think he will age well. May end up moving up to a small ball PF when he ages. He isn't overly reliant on athleticism.

Now, Kawhi. He's a monster. But how enthusiastic would you be to give him a 5 year deal at the full max given his injury history?

Agreed., and a lot of that will rest on his injuries. He could be the ideal small ball 4 or he could also be a Luol Deng in 4 years. Even under the worse case scenario, he’ll also have value to some team like Milwaukee, who’s paying (and will continue to pay) the moon to keep Giannis happy.

However, I think someone will give Kawhi the max, especially at his age right now. Heck, I think we probably would (with hesitation) if we were in that position from a salary cap perspective..
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 11, 2021 8:32 am    Post subject:

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Giannis' playtime of 42:59 is his most during regulation since April 17th, 2018, and his most in regulation under Budenholzer


Coach Bud finally realizing that his job is on the line
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 11, 2021 8:44 am    Post subject:

Stephan A said that Spider is already the best player in Jazz History....

How does these guys have jobs.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 11, 2021 8:47 am    Post subject:

Reggie Jackson was available this off season, he was a very late sign by the clips, he's averaging 16.2 while shooting 42% from 3s in the playoffs (averaging 8 attempts), he would be a better fit here instead of DS
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Stephan A said that Spider is already the best player in Jazz History....

How does these guys have jobs.


Individually he only needs to surpass Karl Malone and if you watch both players you can say Mitchell is probably ahead.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 11, 2021 8:56 am    Post subject:

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Stephan A said that Spider is already the best player in Jazz History....

How does these guys have jobs.


lol

Complete insanity. Also recently said Simmons is "a jumpshot away from being LeBron James"
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 11, 2021 8:58 am    Post subject:

Did Spider average 14 assists per game two seasons in row when I wasn't paying attention? Or have a career TS% of 61%?

I think he could become the greatest Jazz player especially if he brings them the title but he's got a little way to go yet.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 11, 2021 9:54 am    Post subject:

It's simply absurd to put Mitchell in the same breath as Malone, Stockton or Dantley. Recall that Dantley is the only player in NBA history to average over 30 points on 55% shooting 4 years in a row.

Is it possible for Mitchell to surpass them in the future? Sure, but he has ways to go. I'm rooting for him as much as anyone else.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 11, 2021 10:05 am    Post subject:

Harlemlakerfan wrote:
Stephan A said that Spider is already the best player in Jazz History....

How does these guys have jobs.

lets not forget. this is the same guy who sympathized with a wife beater. michele beadle called him out publicly and disappeared. he was suspended for a week and got a raise.

He is a disgrace to broadcasting and I love how he is now getting called out . we can thank Kwami brown for opening those gates.

But he gets clicks with zero integrity so he wins.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 11, 2021 10:57 am    Post subject:

Stephen A. is the human version of the National Enquirer.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 11, 2021 11:03 am    Post subject:

Harlemlakerfan wrote:
Stephan A said that Spider is already the best player in Jazz History....

How does these guys have jobs.


They’re paid to drive online traffic and conversations like this one. It’s why Skip Bayless is paid $8M a year to say stupid things.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 11, 2021 11:18 am    Post subject:

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Reggie Jackson was available this off season, he was a very late sign by the clips, he's averaging 16.2 while shooting 42% from 3s in the playoffs (averaging 8 attempts), he would be a better fit here instead of DS


to pick up that kind of talent, you need to do lot of home work. But its easy to go after shiny objects like DS and Trez.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 11, 2021 11:19 am    Post subject:

Mitchell and JC played amazing and Jazz won by single digit at home. Mitchell and Bagdon limping. Conley still out. If you are a Jazz fan, will you be comfortable?
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