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PostPosted: Thu Jun 03, 2021 10:15 pm    Post subject: In retrospect, what moves would you have made over the offseason?

1) Re-sign Dwight.

2) Trade for Chris Paul instead of Schroeder.

3) Use MLE on Ibaka or Crowder instead of Harrell.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 03, 2021 10:17 pm    Post subject:

None of those moves would have mattered, the lakers weren’t healthy, this team can still run it back and can win the championship

Just get rid of garbage Kuzma, maybe Drummond too
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 03, 2021 10:18 pm    Post subject: Re: In retrospect, what moves would you have made over the offseason?

CandyCanes wrote:
1) Re-sign Dwight.

2) Trade for Chris Paul instead of Schroeder.

3) Use MLE on Ibaka or Crowder instead of Harrell.

Dwight didn’t wait for the lakers
We couldn’t trade for CP3 because the contract doesn’t match
ibaka is sitting nicely on the clipper bench while missed a lot of games
Crowder had ONE (bleep) good game and it was tonight

Obviously signing rondo for 7 mil was not an option because we would have to use MLE

Probably make a run at batum, but not sure he is coming
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 03, 2021 10:20 pm    Post subject: Re: In retrospect, what moves would you have made over the offseason?

CandyCanes wrote:
1) Re-sign Dwight.

2) Trade for Chris Paul instead of Schroeder.

3) Use MLE on Ibaka or Crowder instead of Harrell.


I think the running theory was Ibaka was going to the Clips (KL connection) and may try to mess with the Lakers just to string them along. So that's off.

Crowder I cannot stand - but if he was on our team? That dude plays hard, physical, D. His 3 shot is inconsistent, but when on, it's a PITA for an opposing team. He was terrible the first 3 games this series...but boy did he heat up as the series went along.

Pretty sure we Couldnt have gotten CP3...he has an enormous contract. Would have required some major roster upheaval, more so than was done.

Dwight - yea, would have really liked him at Center instead of the revolving door we got as the year went on. Would not have made a difference, however, in this series, where AD was hurt and the 3 shot was just dead.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 03, 2021 10:21 pm    Post subject:

How are you getting CP3 for green/2020 1st? If that was it would have been done.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 03, 2021 10:22 pm    Post subject:

Like others said we just needed health, although I think we would’ve benefited in this series if we had Lowry, kind of wish the Lakers had made that trade
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 03, 2021 10:25 pm    Post subject:

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How are you getting CP3 for green/2020 1st? If that was it would have been done.


Would Green/Kuzma/1st not have worked? That’s the rumor that was floating around.

https://www.essentiallysports.com/nba-news-los-angeles-lakers-willing-to-trade-danny-green-reports/
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 03, 2021 10:25 pm    Post subject:

Kept the 2020 1st rounder that would become Jaden McDaniels instead of the Dennis trade, as Lakers would have that potential wing stopper and real trade asset too. Find another way to trade Green and another asset for a better fit if possible.

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 03, 2021 10:27 pm    Post subject:

CandyCanes wrote:
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How are you getting CP3 for green/2020 1st? If that was it would have been done.


Would Green/Kuzma/1st not have worked? That’s the rumor that was floating around.

https://www.essentiallysports.com/nba-news-los-angeles-lakers-willing-to-trade-danny-green-reports/


I think we had a major issue matching salaries. That’s why the Suns had to trade out so many players.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 03, 2021 10:28 pm    Post subject:

Trade THT/KCP/DS for Lowry and pray
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 03, 2021 10:32 pm    Post subject:

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Kept the 2020 1st rounder that would become Jaden McDaniels instead of the Dennis trade, as Lakers would have that potential wing stopper and real trade asset too. Find another way to trade Green and another asset for a better fit if possible.


Green actually had a rebound year this season and was the player we thought we were signing originally... 40%+ from three and elite defense.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 03, 2021 10:34 pm    Post subject:

Should have just ran it back & added an additional shooter.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 03, 2021 10:34 pm    Post subject:

Baron Von Humongous wrote:
Trade THT/KCP/DS for Lowry and pray

Can we work a sign and trade with DS this off-season for Lowry? I am sure they won’t ask for THT this time
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 03, 2021 10:36 pm    Post subject:

CandyCanes wrote:
JPaulK0n wrote:
Kept the 2020 1st rounder that would become Jaden McDaniels instead of the Dennis trade, as Lakers would have that potential wing stopper and real trade asset too. Find another way to trade Green and another asset for a better fit if possible.


Green actually had a rebound year this season and was the player we thought we were signing originally... 40%+ from three and elite defense.

And he certainly won’t get the same open looks if lebron and AD went down with injuries this year.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 03, 2021 10:37 pm    Post subject:

CandyCanes wrote:
JPaulK0n wrote:
Kept the 2020 1st rounder that would become Jaden McDaniels instead of the Dennis trade, as Lakers would have that potential wing stopper and real trade asset too. Find another way to trade Green and another asset for a better fit if possible.


Green actually had a rebound year this season and was the player we thought we were signing originally... 40%+ from three and elite defense.


Green was not terrible in Los Angeles.

I don’t know how that narrative started, but the Lakers don’t win a title without Green. He made timely shots and was a constant three point threat.

The Lakers missed Green desperately this season. It was a big big mistake trading him.


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Baron Von Humongous wrote:
Trade THT/KCP/DS for Lowry and pray

Can we work a sign and trade with DS this off-season for Lowry? I am sure they won’t ask for THT this time


Why would the Raptors want to pay Dennis his stupid contract demand?
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 03, 2021 10:37 pm    Post subject:

CandyCanes wrote:
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Kept the 2020 1st rounder that would become Jaden McDaniels instead of the Dennis trade, as Lakers would have that potential wing stopper and real trade asset too. Find another way to trade Green and another asset for a better fit if possible.


Green actually had a rebound year this season and was the player we thought we were signing originally... 40%+ from three and elite defense.

He played really well with the Sixers, but I had no faith and convinced no chance Green would shoot this well if he stayed as a Laker. Even when he was dismal in the playoffs as a shooter, he was still an effective defender. By the end of the playoffs, he was shooting worse than 30% from the field overall and he needed a change of scenery and Lakers needed another scorer which Dennis was supposed to be.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 03, 2021 10:39 pm    Post subject:

mad55557777 wrote:
Baron Von Humongous wrote:
Trade THT/KCP/DS for Lowry and pray

Can we work a sign and trade with DS this off-season for Lowry? I am sure they won’t ask for THT this time

Ujiri didn't want KCP or DS in the deal, he wanted THT.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 03, 2021 10:41 pm    Post subject:

JPaulK0n wrote:
CandyCanes wrote:
JPaulK0n wrote:
Kept the 2020 1st rounder that would become Jaden McDaniels instead of the Dennis trade, as Lakers would have that potential wing stopper and real trade asset too. Find another way to trade Green and another asset for a better fit if possible.


Green actually had a rebound year this season and was the player we thought we were signing originally... 40%+ from three and elite defense.

He played really well with the Sixers, but I had no faith and convinced no chance Green would shoot this well if he stayed as a Laker. Even when he was dismal in the playoffs as a shooter, he was still an effective defender. By the end of the playoffs, he was shooting worse than 30% from the field overall and he needed a change of scenery and Lakers needed another scorer which Dennis was supposed to be.


He shot 37% from three last season… which pretty much matches Schroeder’s best season.

If we were trading for Schroder because we thought he would be a better 3 point shooter, we were very wrong.

Schroder is a terrible shooter.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 03, 2021 10:43 pm    Post subject:

I think Rob traded for Dennis to help ease the perimeter scoring load. Danny wouldn’t have mattered without LBJ/AD.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 03, 2021 10:44 pm    Post subject:

CandyCanes wrote:
mad55557777 wrote:
Baron Von Humongous wrote:
Trade THT/KCP/DS for Lowry and pray

Can we work a sign and trade with DS this off-season for Lowry? I am sure they won’t ask for THT this time


Why would the Raptors want to pay Dennis his stupid contract demand?

There are 12 teams with more the 27 mil in cap space this off season. What you think is “stupid” doesn’t mean other teams value him the Same. If Gallo got 22 mil, DS can get 22 mil with no issues. The salary cap is only going up
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 03, 2021 10:44 pm    Post subject:

JPaulK0n wrote:
CandyCanes wrote:
JPaulK0n wrote:
Kept the 2020 1st rounder that would become Jaden McDaniels instead of the Dennis trade, as Lakers would have that potential wing stopper and real trade asset too. Find another way to trade Green and another asset for a better fit if possible.


Green actually had a rebound year this season and was the player we thought we were signing originally... 40%+ from three and elite defense.

He played really well with the Sixers, but I had no faith and convinced no chance Green would shoot this well if he stayed as a Laker. Even when he was dismal in the playoffs as a shooter, he was still an effective defender. By the end of the playoffs, he was shooting worse than 30% from the field overall and he needed a change of scenery and Lakers needed another scorer which Dennis was supposed to be.


Why the unusually bad shooting year with us and when he LeBron and AD to draw attention away from him?
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 03, 2021 10:45 pm    Post subject:

I would have ran it back and prayed for good health. During the season, only move I’d make is offer the Rockets whatever they wanted sans AD and LBJ for Harden.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 03, 2021 10:46 pm    Post subject:

JaVale, Dwight and Danny all onto the second round.

Rondo still alive.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 03, 2021 10:46 pm    Post subject:

Baron Von Humongous wrote:
mad55557777 wrote:
Baron Von Humongous wrote:
Trade THT/KCP/DS for Lowry and pray

Can we work a sign and trade with DS this off-season for Lowry? I am sure they won’t ask for THT this time

Ujiri didn't want KCP or DS in the deal, he wanted THT.

Lowry is an UFA now, I know it is a long shot.
We will have interesting off season with 12 teams have more than 27 mil in cap space and even more teams with more than 15
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