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CandyCanes
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hoopschick29
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Old Rummy, Mr. 'They're in the area around Tikrit and Baghdad and east, west, south and north...'
98...wow.
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Baron Von Humongous
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Lived at least two decades too long.
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hoopschick29
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' You go to war with the army you have, not the army you might want or wish to have at a later time.' Rummy Words of Wisdom
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Roger O. Thornhill
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He was 88.
Bad guy, good nickname. |
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Baron Von Humongous
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The one thing I'll give him is that the "known unknowns" bit was smart and can be useful in non-evil contexts.
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ChefLinda
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angrypuppy
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| Not a fan. He helped architect wars with shifting, naive objectives which cost us both lives and treasure. Deep down I wonder how many opportunists knew that the planning and prosecution of the wars were politically misguided, tragic and inept. |
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Baron Von Humongous
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| Baron Von Humongous wrote: | | The one thing I'll give him is that the "known unknowns" bit was smart and can be useful in non-evil contexts. |
I learned today that he stole this line from a USAF officer.
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My favorite epi of Rumsfeld was the one where George built a bed under his desk at work so he could sleep during the day. And I mean George Bush, not Costanza.
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SweetP
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Good riddance. Cheney can be next.
Lied and sent young men and women off to war. Not to mention the locals and civilians that got killed and maimed.
Making up cute names for torture is right up there too.
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SweetP
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What the actual (bleep). I am watching Rachel Maddow and she is reporting on how Rumsfeld bought and lived in (as a vacation home) an infamous farm in Maryland that was known for "breaking" slaves who would not "behave". Frederick Douglas was sent there as a young man and tortured basically. What kind of human (and I use that term loosely) would even consider living in a place like that? It is called Mount Misery. Torture was obviously his thing. 
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FernieBee
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Done-for
Rums-fell
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ChefLinda
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| SweetP wrote: | | What the actual (bleep). I am watching Rachel Maddow and she is reporting on how Rumsfeld bought and lived in (as a vacation home) an infamous farm in Maryland that was known for "breaking" slaves who would not "behave". Frederick Douglas was sent there as a young man and tortured basically. What kind of human (and I use that term loosely) would even consider living in a place like that? It is called Mount Misery. Torture was obviously his thing. |
That whole segment was horrifying. |
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| SweetP wrote: | | What the actual (bleep). I am watching Rachel Maddow and she is reporting on how Rumsfeld bought and lived in (as a vacation home) an infamous farm in Maryland that was known for "breaking" slaves who would not "behave". Frederick Douglas was sent there as a young man and tortured basically. What kind of human (and I use that term loosely) would even consider living in a place like that? It is called Mount Misery. Torture was obviously his thing. |
When I read things like that I mist. It's a mist of anger,😡 not sorrow. Blacks have come a long way.
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| SweetP wrote: | | What the actual (bleep). I am watching Rachel Maddow and she is reporting on how Rumsfeld bought and lived in (as a vacation home) an infamous farm in Maryland that was known for "breaking" slaves who would not "behave". Frederick Douglas was sent there as a young man and tortured basically. What kind of human (and I use that term loosely) would even consider living in a place like that? It is called Mount Misery. Torture was obviously his thing. |
FWLIW, Wiki says it's commonly believed that Douglas was tortured there, but it actually happened at a different farm, several miles away. |
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DuncanIdaho
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Good riddance. The sooner his entire cabal of neocons leaves the earth, the better off we'll be. Millions of lives and trillions of dollars of treasure, not to mention a country more divided than ever are the legacy of men like Rumsfeld, Bill Kristol, John Bolton, Paul Wolfowitz and other PNAC (bleep). When some of those names started to crop up in the last administration, I was sure we were going to war with Iran.
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kikanga
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He's before my time. Didn't follow politics pre-Obama.
But it is telling how few people are mourning him online.
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| kikanga wrote: | He's before my time. Didn't follow politics pre-Obama.
But it is telling how few people are mourning him online. |
It is impossible to understand obama era and post Obama era politics without understanding the decades prior.
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| DuncanIdaho wrote: | Good riddance. The sooner his entire cabal of neocons leaves the earth, the better off we'll be. Millions of lives and trillions of dollars of treasure, not to mention a country more divided than ever are the legacy of men like Rumsfeld, Bill Kristol, John Bolton, Paul Wolfowitz and other PNAC (bleep). When some of those names started to crop up in the last administration, I was sure we were going to war with Iran.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_for_the_New_American_Century |
Richard Clarke is still with us! That's the silver lining. That guy was right about WMD Iraq and the W. Admin people and Fox tried their best to paint him an eccentric wildcard type.
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