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| Halflife wrote: | | I have a feeling we get Ben and buddy |
Ben who? |
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| Posted: Mon Jul 26, 2021 6:52 pm Post subject: |
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| markjay wrote: | | Halflife wrote: | | I have a feeling we get Ben and buddy |
Ben who? |
Ben Simmons
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| Posted: Mon Jul 26, 2021 6:54 pm Post subject: |
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| epic_ wrote: | | markjay wrote: | | Halflife wrote: | | I have a feeling we get Ben and buddy |
Ben who? |
Ben Simmons |
I'll be shocked if that happens, but what do I know? |
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| Posted: Mon Jul 26, 2021 7:11 pm Post subject: |
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| markjay wrote: | | epic_ wrote: | | markjay wrote: | | Halflife wrote: | | I have a feeling we get Ben and buddy |
Ben who? |
Ben Simmons |
I'll be shocked if that happens, but what do I know? |
Yep. Doubt it does.
But maybe Counter Strike had a good feeling about Ben. 
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If it's leaked, it likely doesn't happen.
We heard 0 about Dennis, Trezz last offseason.
I think Rob assassinates those who leak from his front office.   |
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| Posted: Tue Jul 27, 2021 5:39 am Post subject: |
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| yinoma2001 wrote: | If it's leaked, it likely doesn't happen.
We heard 0 about Dennis, Trezz last offseason.
I think Rob assassinates those who leak from his front office. |
I’m guessing this was conversations in May/June.
This is probably a good indication that Sac is not serious about dealing with the Lakers. If they were, they would have stayed quiet like Presti in OKC with the Schroder/DG trade.
Stay Petty Sac. These organizations that are focused on the wrong thing…smh they wonder why they never succeed lol. |
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| Posted: Tue Jul 27, 2021 5:51 am Post subject: |
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Or it could just be the Lakers trying to raise interest for Kuz.
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| Posted: Tue Jul 27, 2021 6:00 am Post subject: |
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| epic_ wrote: | | Or it could just be the Lakers trying to raise interest for Kuz. |
Could be…first it was Harrison Barnes then Hield  |
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I think all of this hinges on Trezz.
1. whether he opts in.
2. whether he is ok with being Sacto, b/c he has de facto veto powers.
If he doesn't opt in, Hield is pretty much unlikely IMO. |
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epic_
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| Posted: Tue Jul 27, 2021 6:11 am Post subject: |
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| yinoma2001 wrote: | I think all of this hinges on Trezz.
1. whether he opts in.
2. whether he is ok with being Sacto, b/c he has de facto veto powers.
If he doesn't opt in, Hield is pretty much unlikely IMO. |
No veto power if you opt in.
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| Posted: Tue Jul 27, 2021 6:11 am Post subject: |
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| LakerSD wrote: | | epic_ wrote: | | Or it could just be the Lakers trying to raise interest for Kuz. |
Could be…first it was Harrison Barnes then Hield |
Next week, D Fox.
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Is there a world where the Kings take Trezz + Kuz for Buddy straight up, without picks? Assuming Harrell opts in of course
Kings fans don't seem to be extroadinarily high on Hield
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| Posted: Tue Jul 27, 2021 6:33 am Post subject: |
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| epic_ wrote: | | yinoma2001 wrote: | I think all of this hinges on Trezz.
1. whether he opts in.
2. whether he is ok with being Sacto, b/c he has de facto veto powers.
If he doesn't opt in, Hield is pretty much unlikely IMO. |
No veto power if you opt in. |
when do we know if he opt in? |
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| Posted: Tue Jul 27, 2021 6:35 am Post subject: |
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| governator wrote: | | epic_ wrote: | | yinoma2001 wrote: | I think all of this hinges on Trezz.
1. whether he opts in.
2. whether he is ok with being Sacto, b/c he has de facto veto powers.
If he doesn't opt in, Hield is pretty much unlikely IMO. |
No veto power if you opt in. |
when do we know if he opt in? |
By 7/31.
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| Posted: Tue Jul 27, 2021 6:55 am Post subject: |
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| epic_ wrote: | | yinoma2001 wrote: | I think all of this hinges on Trezz.
1. whether he opts in.
2. whether he is ok with being Sacto, b/c he has de facto veto powers.
If he doesn't opt in, Hield is pretty much unlikely IMO. |
No veto power if you opt in. |
Is that true? B/c if we trade him, doesn't he lose his early Bird rights (and a reason why he gets veto powers). |
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| Posted: Tue Jul 27, 2021 7:00 am Post subject: |
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| yinoma2001 wrote: | | epic_ wrote: | | yinoma2001 wrote: | I think all of this hinges on Trezz.
1. whether he opts in.
2. whether he is ok with being Sacto, b/c he has de facto veto powers.
If he doesn't opt in, Hield is pretty much unlikely IMO. |
No veto power if you opt in. |
Is that true? B/c if we trade him, doesn't he lose his early Bird rights (and a reason why he gets veto powers). |
http://forums.lakersground.net/viewtopic.php?t=191415
I'm going off the primer.
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| alleyoop wrote: | Is there a world where the Kings take Trezz + Kuz for Buddy straight up, without picks? Assuming Harrell opts in of course
Kings fans don't seem to be extroadinarily high on Hield |
'Cause he's a poor defender |
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| Posted: Tue Jul 27, 2021 7:06 am Post subject: |
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| LFsnz67 wrote: | | alleyoop wrote: | Is there a world where the Kings take Trezz + Kuz for Buddy straight up, without picks? Assuming Harrell opts in of course
Kings fans don't seem to be extroadinarily high on Hield |
'Cause he's a poor defender |
And struggles in starting lineups instead of being a top option off the bench.
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| Posted: Tue Jul 27, 2021 7:57 am Post subject: |
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| i take it dennis for buddy is a non starter? that would be ideal. gets him out of our hair and the salaries match up for the most part (S&T) |
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| Posted: Tue Jul 27, 2021 9:29 am Post subject: |
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| epic_ wrote: | | yinoma2001 wrote: | | epic_ wrote: | | yinoma2001 wrote: | I think all of this hinges on Trezz.
1. whether he opts in.
2. whether he is ok with being Sacto, b/c he has de facto veto powers.
If he doesn't opt in, Hield is pretty much unlikely IMO. |
No veto power if you opt in. |
Is that true? B/c if we trade him, doesn't he lose his early Bird rights (and a reason why he gets veto powers). |
http://forums.lakersground.net/viewtopic.php?t=191415
I'm going off the primer. |
Yeah Yinoma, it really makes no sense...hopefully they address it in 2024 when they rework the CBA. But if Trez opts in, he does not have veto power, even though he’s working on early bird rights with us.
However if he opts out with the understanding that he gets a nonbird raise in pay at 11.2m on a 1+1 (player or team option), he gets a NTC built into that deal...can’t be traded till December tho.
If he opts out and agrees to a S&t (which can’t be a 1+1 format since it’s mandated they be a minimum of 3 yrs with only yr 1 fully guaranteed, I don’t believe he gets NTC rights in that type of construct, but correct me if I’m wrong. He can however still start off at 11.2m.
So it could potentially be Kuz/Trez(opt-in) that brings in a max of 28.5m in salary VS Kuz/Trez (S&t) which could bring in a max of 30.4m in salary.
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| Posted: Tue Jul 27, 2021 12:33 pm Post subject: |
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| Quote: | Hield's Perimeter Shooting talent grade and 3PT Shot Making rating last season would've been the best marks for the Lakers any season in our 2013-21 database.
He's a caliber of 3-point shooter we haven't seen in LA. |
https://mobile.twitter.com/Tim_NBA/status/1420088296353505280
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| Posted: Tue Jul 27, 2021 12:44 pm Post subject: |
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So he's not gonna get 10 3pt attempts a game for us.
Maybe 6? Wonder how it'll affect his %.
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No doubt he would feast on 3s here. But what would it take to trade for him, and does having basically 2 SGs who do not playmake put too much of a creation burden on LBJ as he heads into age 36-37 NBA season. |
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| Posted: Tue Jul 27, 2021 2:13 pm Post subject: |
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I might be a minority, but I don't feel Hield is worth trading Kuz/Trez/#22 for.
I rather have Barnes, he is more versatile, better defender and can create his own shot. |
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