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PostPosted: Thu May 26, 2022 1:10 pm    Post subject:

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Shoiuldn't a coach talking about keeping Westbrick be out of consideration immediately

I am not watching the Lakers if they keep Westbrook


Based on what we've seen of Russ in his HOF-career, is he the type who will say "I learned my lesson from last year, it humbled me and I will do whatever it takes, including being a 6th man bench player?"

Or will he feel "validated" that he's back (fully being braindead to the notion that no team wants him) and will feel emboldened to do more Russ things?

I think the latter. And if that's the case, shame on the Lakers.
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PostPosted: Thu May 26, 2022 3:18 pm    Post subject:

Sorry I really don’t know the answer to this…..but how much cap would Lakers need to sign LaVine?

I believe Westbrook is on the books for $47M sooooo could they make a deal with Westbrook kinda like Paul and the Suns? Say he declines the $47 then gets a 3 year $60M, so $20M a year?

Would this open up $27M to sign LaVine?

YES we all are focused on how to send Westbrook packing but maybe it’s the extension as the only options to get more talent. Will just have to swallow the next 2 years with Westbrook and then trade his 3rd year expiring $20M contract.

Anyone let me know if this would be possible? Thanks
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PostPosted: Thu May 26, 2022 3:29 pm    Post subject:

The Lakers are $40.3 mil over the 2022-2023 cap right now. Say you cut $27 mil from Russ, you are still $13 mil over with 8 players. To sign Lavine you would need to cut another $47 mil app. That means no Lebron or no AD. The two of them will make close to $83 mil of a $122 mil cap.
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PostPosted: Thu May 26, 2022 6:07 pm    Post subject:

Need to open big enough Westbrook trade exception for LaVine
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PostPosted: Thu May 26, 2022 7:19 pm    Post subject:

Westbrook gonna be MIP.
Lebron MVP.
AD DPOY.
Ham COTY.
THT 6th MOY.
Peyton Watson ROTY.
Pelinka EOTY.
Melo Kareem Abdul-Jabbar Social Champion Award Winners.
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PostPosted: Thu May 26, 2022 11:58 pm    Post subject:

epic_ wrote:
Westbrook gonna be MIP.
Lebron MVP.
AD DPOY.
Ham COTY.
THT 6th MOY.
Peyton Watson ROTY.
Pelinka EOTY.
Melo Kareem Abdul-Jabbar Social Champion Award Winners.
Dwight Twyman-Stokes Teammate of the Year Award.
Nunn NBA Sportsmanship Award.
Governator J. Walter Kennedy Citizenship Award.



Wut? What alternative universe are you living in anyway?
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PostPosted: Fri May 27, 2022 7:25 am    Post subject:

dogstar wrote:
epic_ wrote:
Westbrook gonna be MIP.
Lebron MVP.
AD DPOY.
Ham COTY.
THT 6th MOY.
Peyton Watson ROTY.
Pelinka EOTY.
Melo Kareem Abdul-Jabbar Social Champion Award Winners.
Dwight Twyman-Stokes Teammate of the Year Award.
Nunn NBA Sportsmanship Award.
Governator J. Walter Kennedy Citizenship Award.



Wut? What alternative universe are you living in anyway?


Earth-838, you?
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PostPosted: Sat May 28, 2022 5:23 am    Post subject:

So apparently the interviews for the new coach, a lot of the talk was centered around how Westbrook will be better integrated into the team next season.

Going to prepare myself for Westbrook season 2. What's scary is he's going to be playing for free agency, and there's no way he's going to go into FA with the same narrative he had this season.

If Westbrook ends up playing better, AD stays healthy, the Lakers should have a winning record next season. They'll be able to make some noise. I'm just not convinced this is what we should be doing, at all.

By next offseason, we may have nothing but AD (on a last year potential opt out contract) to show for it. Hoping there's some asset management with how we handle Westbrook and Lebron contracts this coming year (but not holding my breath).
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PostPosted: Sat May 28, 2022 5:55 am    Post subject:

I hope not. I will be so disappointed if he’s back. What a team morale killer.
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PostPosted: Sat May 28, 2022 6:03 am    Post subject:

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If Westbrook ends up playing better, AD stays healthy, the Lakers should have a winning record next season. They'll be able to make some noise. I'm just not convinced this is what we should be doing, at all.


That's my expectation and my concern. It would take a serious effort to get worse next year. But is this really a positive path forward?
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PostPosted: Sat May 28, 2022 6:34 am    Post subject:

If we don't find a trade partner send him home.

He is a cancer who is clueless
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PostPosted: Sat May 28, 2022 9:49 am    Post subject:

The Lakers have to take the medicine for this horrific decision. Sometimes there isn't a fix. GM should be fired just for this, and yes it was that bad of a move. Putrid, offensive, and inexcusable.
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PostPosted: Sat May 28, 2022 10:02 am    Post subject:

To me, this error is in the same level as Vlade's miss on Luka. Unforgivable really. Should never work again.
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PostPosted: Sun May 29, 2022 3:36 pm    Post subject:

I've heard people say Westbrook is gonna somehow shoot 35% from three next season like his MVP season. People need to realize how long ago that was.

That was around 2017. Want to see how much the league has changed since 2017? Watch this video

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PostPosted: Sun May 29, 2022 6:45 pm    Post subject:

MJST wrote:
I've heard people say Westbrook is gonna somehow shoot 35% from three next season like his MVP season. People need to realize how long ago that was.

That was around 2017.


The 34.3% he shot that year was also his career high. He never shot higher than 33% in any other season. In the 5 years since then he shot:

29.8%
29%
25.8%
31.5%
29.8%
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PostPosted: Sun May 29, 2022 9:04 pm    Post subject:

J.C. Smith wrote:
MJST wrote:
I've heard people say Westbrook is gonna somehow shoot 35% from three next season like his MVP season. People need to realize how long ago that was.

That was around 2017.


The 34.3% he shot that year was also his career high. He never shot higher than 33% in any other season. In the 5 years since then he shot:

29.8%
29%
25.8%
31.5%
29.8%


Just watching him all last season get literal wide open looks consistently and still badly brick and sometimes even air ball them really makes me wonder if those people even watched last season? He might have a couple small stretches he shoots 35% but I see no chance he does it for a full season.

The better question is will he even get to 30%?
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PostPosted: Sun May 29, 2022 9:06 pm    Post subject:

Jason Kidd developed a 3 point shot late into his career. As did Rajon Rondo.

I just want Russell to become a better free throw shooter.
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PostPosted: Mon May 30, 2022 8:50 am    Post subject:

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PostPosted: Mon May 30, 2022 8:51 am    Post subject:

https://twitter.com/BleacherReport/status/1531308856252440576?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1531308856252440576%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fs9e.github.io%2Fiframe%2Ftwitter.min.html1531308856252440576

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The Lakers plan to keep Russell Westbrook. LA refuses to give up "additional assets" to send him out, per
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Westbrook is expected to exercise his $47M player option for next season
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PostPosted: Mon May 30, 2022 9:12 am    Post subject:

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The Lakers plan to keep Russell Westbrook. LA refuses to give up "additional assets" to send him out, per
@TheSteinLine


Westbrook is expected to exercise his $47M player option for next season


Please just tell him to stay at home and collect his money.

The team chemistry will be better off for it and we'll be able to see if coach Ham can run a team with Lebron/AD at the helm.
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PostPosted: Mon May 30, 2022 9:16 am    Post subject:

MDI wrote:
https://twitter.com/BleacherReport/status/1531308856252440576?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1531308856252440576%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fs9e.github.io%2Fiframe%2Ftwitter.min.html1531308856252440576

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The Lakers plan to keep Russell Westbrook. LA refuses to give up "additional assets" to send him out, per
@TheSteinLine


Westbrook is expected to exercise his $47M player option for next season



I don't know why Bleacher Reports always writes those BS headlines. Actually I do. But I hate that they do. Here's what Stein actually wrote.

@TheSteinLine wrote:
The Lakers are turning out the skeptics yet again and insisting to anyone who will listen that they would rather keep Russell Westbrook on the roster for next season than surrender additional assets to convince someone to trade for him. The Lakers are also said to be adamant that they won't release the former MVP and eat his $47.1 million player option for next season after Westbrook picks it up.

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PostPosted: Mon May 30, 2022 11:22 am    Post subject:

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wolfpaclaker wrote:
If Westbrook ends up playing better, AD stays healthy, the Lakers should have a winning record next season. They'll be able to make some noise. I'm just not convinced this is what we should be doing, at all.


That's my expectation and my concern. It would take a serious effort to get worse next year. But is this really a positive path forward?


If they can play good defense, yes. After 2020, it looks like LAL could run the league for at least 1, maybe 2 more years. Then injuries, bad moves, etc. This always happens - fans overreact and start acting like the next few years are certain to go a certain way -- Dallas will dominate! Grizzlies are fast, young, mean, and now - experienced! Jokic is a piece away and his guys will get healthy! etc etc

I think the opposite.

I think it's more likely that Ja suffers a season-ending injury than the Grizz get substantially better.

I think Dallas will overpay Jalen Brunson and find themselves seriously disappointed in about . . . ~10 months.

I think the Suns have petered out.

I think the HEAT play an unsustainable style of ball and that Herro, Bam, and Butler is still a core that's not good enough to win you a ring, but too good for you to turn away from - i.e., welcome to the purgatory of close-but-no-cigar.

I think Jokic will forever remain a piece away and that piece certainly isn't either Jamal Murray or MPJ.

Minnesota, LOL. Utah, LOL. NOP, LOL. Philly, Toronto? Lmao, ok. Chicago??? Not as long as Demar Derozan exists.

There's two good teams. That's it.

So, yeah, if LAL can play good defense, and LeBron and AD are reasonably healthy come playoff time -- LA all the way baby.
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PostPosted: Mon May 30, 2022 11:41 am    Post subject:

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Please just tell him to stay at home and collect his money.

The team chemistry will be better off for it and we'll be able to see if coach Ham can run a team with Lebron/AD at the helm.


What makes you think the team chemistry would improve? Everyone on the team seems to like playing with Russell.

I specifically remember Deandre consoling Russell after Frank benched him in the fourth quarter for the first time (they lost that game, btw). Guys on the team like Russell.


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PostPosted: Mon May 30, 2022 11:44 am    Post subject:

Balto wrote:

I believe Westbrook is on the books for $47M sooooo could they make a deal with Westbrook kinda like Paul and the Suns? Say he declines the $47 then gets a 3 year $60M, so $20M a year?



A three-year, $60 million contract isn't enough for Westbrook to decline a $47 million option. It would be the equivalent of him signing a two-year extension for $6.5 million a year.

Paul, in contrast, declined a $44 million option to sign a 4-year, $120 million contract. That's the equivalent of signing a three-year extension at $25 million a year.

For the situations to be comparable, you would need to offer Westbrook a 3-year, $95 million contract, and that makes no sense for us.
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PostPosted: Mon May 30, 2022 12:46 pm    Post subject:

Disaster season part 2 incoming if they keep the ninja turtle....
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