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yinoma2001
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| I wouldn't mind him coming, but we have so many holes to fill on this team, especially defensive wings. Monk brings us some much needed scoring but he is absolutely a defensive liability too. i could see him being picked on in a playoff series. |
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vasashi17+
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^Yeah, I agree that the mMLE is probably the right amount for dude. I wouldn’t activately shed cap flexibility/assets so that dude could get paid fMLE type money tho.
Plus it sure seems he’s going to be angling for a bag and how exactly does that line up with our supposed 2023 cap plan. Imho, he gone next year.
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yinoma2001
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| Posted: Fri Mar 18, 2022 11:02 am Post subject: |
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| vasashi17+ wrote: | | ^Yeah, I agree that the mMLE is probably the right amount for dude. I wouldn’t activately shed cap flexibility/assets so that dude could get paid fMLE type money tho. |
This is why having Nunn likely back on his player option (and hopefully healed in the name of Jesus  ) is important. Otherwise, if he AND Monk both left, yikes. But theoretically we will have Nunn, and can offer the MMLE to Monk or fill in other gaps. |
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Inspector Gadget
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| Posted: Fri Mar 18, 2022 11:40 am Post subject: |
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| Monk has been below-average at best since shooting like Larry Bird in January, Lakers should use there tax payer exception wisely, we are gonna have to fill the C and 3-D holes this summer with guys like Dwight and Ariza not expected back |
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| Posted: Fri Mar 18, 2022 1:19 pm Post subject: |
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| Inspector Gadget wrote: | | Monk has been below-average at best since shooting like Larry Bird in January |
Malik Monk in February
17 PPG
3.6 REB
3.4 AST
0.2 STL
42.5% Field Goal
33.3% Three Pointer
Then was benched by Vogel for no reason in 3 of the next 4 games and his numbers fell.
Malik Monk in March back as a starter
15 PPG
4.4 REB
3.8 AST
1.4 STL
46.4% Field Goal
40.7% Three Pointers
That's "below average at best"?
He's been one of our best players. The idiot was Vogel for benching him when he was on a tear for no darn reason other than Vogel's own stupidity.
When Monk got his run as a starter, through December to Mid January. He put up
18.4 PPG
3.7 REB
2.7 AST
0.7 STL
1.2 BLK
50.9% Field Goal
50.0% Three Pointer(on 7 per game)
90.5% Free Throws
This was what Monk did for us across that stretch. How did Vogel respond? For no freaking reason benching him in the next 5 straight games! Then moved him back to the starting lineup and when Monk started to find a rhythm again and putting up the scoring numbers... VOGEL BENCHED HIM AGAIN.. for no reason! This is why players can't stand Vogel and the ones that criticize him mention how he never lets them have a consistent role nor does he ever spell one out or communicate one to them. Not since Byron Scott's "figure it out" have we seen a coach so incompetent at benching people that are on a tear. Oh wait.. Luke would do that crap too.
Decisions like that(which Vogel is known for) is why this "Vogel did nothing wrong" nonsense needs to stop.
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| Posted: Fri Mar 18, 2022 2:23 pm Post subject: |
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| MJST wrote: | | Inspector Gadget wrote: | | Monk has been below-average at best since shooting like Larry Bird in January |
Malik Monk in February
17 PPG
3.6 REB
3.4 AST
0.2 STL
42.5% Field Goal
33.3% Three Pointer
Then was benched by Vogel for no reason in 3 of the next 4 games and his numbers fell.
Malik Monk in March back as a starter
15 PPG
4.4 REB
3.8 AST
1.4 STL
46.4% Field Goal
40.7% Three Pointers
That's "below average at best"?
He's been one of our best players. The idiot was Vogel for benching him when he was on a tear for no darn reason other than Vogel's own stupidity.
When Monk got his run as a starter, through December to Mid January. He put up
18.4 PPG
3.7 REB
2.7 AST
0.7 STL
1.2 BLK
50.9% Field Goal
50.0% Three Pointer(on 7 per game)
90.5% Free Throws
This was what Monk did for us across that stretch. How did Vogel respond? For no freaking reason benching him in the next 5 straight games! Then moved him back to the starting lineup and when Monk started to find a rhythm again and putting up the scoring numbers... VOGEL BENCHED HIM AGAIN.. for no reason! This is why players can't stand Vogel and the ones that criticize him mention how he never lets them have a consistent role nor does he ever spell one out or communicate one to them. Not since Byron Scott's "figure it out" have we seen a coach so incompetent at benching people that are on a tear. Oh wait.. Luke would do that crap too.
Decisions like that(which Vogel is known for) is why this "Vogel did nothing wrong" nonsense needs to stop. |
I have nothing against Monk and he’s been real solid for us in a lot of nights but his defense is still subpar and his basketball IQ hasn’t Improved with his tendency to make bad turnovers, I don’t mind bringing him back but it depends on the cost. |
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TooMuchMajicBuss
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| Posted: Fri Mar 18, 2022 2:27 pm Post subject: |
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| I'd prefer to see Monk stay, team defense being the biggest caveat. |
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pio2u
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Pelinka: Lakers Hope Monk Is “Part Of Our Future”
| Quote: | the Lakers will only hold Monk’s Non-Bird rights and won’t have any cap room this offseason, the highest starting salary they’ll be able to offer will likely be $6.34MM,
the projected amount of the taxpayer mid-level exception.
Without dipping into their MLE, the Lakers would only be able to give Monk a 20% raise above the minimum. |
https://www.hoopsrumors.com/2022/03/pelinka-lakers-hope-monk-is-part-of-our-future.html |
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| Posted: Sun Mar 20, 2022 3:55 pm Post subject: |
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| Some team will over pay Monk |
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JUST-MING
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Leadership on the Lakers:
"Ups and downs. Rookie wall. Older guys yelling at the rookies because it's their fault. Everything they do, it's your fault out there because they know everything and you don't and when you mess up, you just got to take it. You got to deal with things like that." - Malik Monk
https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/33513262/why-malik-monk-too-good-los-angeles-lakers |
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blackmamba08
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| Posted: Sun Apr 03, 2022 2:09 pm Post subject: |
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| Only an idiot can offer him more than vet min. Let him walk. We need smart players. This guy has brain of the chicken. |
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TDRock
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| Posted: Sun Apr 10, 2022 8:42 pm Post subject: |
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| YEAH MALIK! |
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GOODRICH25
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| Posted: Sun Apr 10, 2022 8:59 pm Post subject: |
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Nice farewell game Malik. Hope to see him back, but hes probably gone
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KindCrippler2000
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| Posted: Sun Apr 10, 2022 9:00 pm Post subject: |
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| Probably his last game as a Laker. |
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pio2u
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| Posted: Sun Apr 10, 2022 9:04 pm Post subject: |
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| Malik shot the lights out. Hope he remains in the P&G. |
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MJST
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mad55557777
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| Posted: Sun Apr 10, 2022 9:10 pm Post subject: |
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he might get more than MMLE with the FA class being weak this summer, but i think he will and should stay with the Lakers because he will put up more stats for his next big contract, and if he likes the Lakers, he'd go the KCP route and do year by year deals until we got his Bird Right.
he wasn't very impressive the last few months, and his defense was really bad, so i think we have a good chance of keeping him. |
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mad55557777
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| Posted: Sun Apr 10, 2022 9:11 pm Post subject: |
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he might get more than MMLE with the FA class being weak this summer, but i think he will and should stay with the Lakers because he will put up more stats for his next big contract, and if he likes the Lakers, he'd go the KCP route and do year by year deals until we got his Bird Right.
he wasn't very impressive the last few months, and his defense was really bad, so i think we have a good chance of keeping him. |
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J.C. Smith
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| Posted: Sun Apr 10, 2022 9:51 pm Post subject: |
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| Nice game by Malik to close the season. That can't hurt his free agency. |
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BILBJH
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| Posted: Sun Apr 10, 2022 10:00 pm Post subject: |
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| MJST wrote: | Keep Monk at all costs.
Drop Nunn, and sign Monk for a multi-year. |
I can't believe some people complaining about Monk also were good signing Schroder for 80 to 100 million.
He was shooting at almost Steph like efficiency.
I'll feel ten times better about next season if we find some way to keep him. |
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wolfpaclaker
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| MJST wrote: | Keep Monk at all costs.
Drop Nunn, and sign Monk for a multi-year. |
Wish it were that simple.
If I could sub the MMLE for Nunn to Monk I would.
But we may need more than the MMLE for Monk, and the new coach may not be as willing to be patient with Monks low IQ game.
I still don’t think Monk is a reliable starter on a playoff team. But he’s definitely a bench/rotation guy for 15-18 min. |
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danzag
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| Posted: Mon Apr 11, 2022 3:06 am Post subject: |
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| Aaaand another good player we'll lose because of (bleep) decisions made by the FO |
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logical24
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| Posted: Mon Apr 11, 2022 5:28 am Post subject: |
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| Im 99% sure monk will return, Reaves/Monk have an amazing bond together on and off the court. He will be back |
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mad55557777
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| Posted: Mon Apr 11, 2022 10:42 am Post subject: |
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| MJST wrote: | Keep Monk at all costs.
Drop Nunn, and sign Monk for a multi-year. |
what does Nunn have anything to do with keeping monk? we can offer MMLE to Monk with or without Nunn, if anything, his contract size makes him a trade piece. i freaking hate the days of 3 max +12 vet min, |
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KindCrippler2000
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| Posted: Mon Apr 11, 2022 10:51 am Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | Assuming they continue to operate over the luxury tax, the Lakers will have the $6.4 million taxpayer mid-level exception as their largest means to upgrade the roster. They need to target the best player available with it, but there’s a possibility that they prioritize utilizing the exception to re-sign Malik Monk. Without it, the most they can offer Monk is a starting salary of $2.5 million with his Non Bird rights. It’s very possible they get outbid for Monk by a team offering him the full non-taxpayer mid-level exception projected at four years, $44.5 million. |
Shooters are the hot commodity these days. The knock on him was that he couldn't stay healthy, but he played a career high 76 games this season. |
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