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| Quote: | Adrian Wojnarowski
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The Los Angeles Lakers acquired Orlando's pick at No. 35 for a future second-round pick and cash, sources tell ESPN. |
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Just a general thought for you, Mike, as I reassess where I went wrong on Morant is how much creativity can be an indicator of star potential. There's something to being able to "just make sh!t up" in basketball and Morant demonstrates how valuable creativity/improvisation can be to stardom in the league.
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| Baron Von Humongous wrote: | | Just a general thought for you, Mike, as I reassess where I went wrong on Morant is how much creativity can be an indicator of star potential. There's something to being able to "just make sh!t up" in basketball and Morant demonstrates how valuable creativity/improvisation can be to stardom in the league. |
I ranked him down because I think he'll be injury prone.
But improvisation is a very, very big deal in player evaluation and it takes and outrageously high skill set to create a high level of improvisation that leads to great outcomes.
No one saw this. Everyone should be hiring that guy's father for training.
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| Mike@LG wrote: | | https://twitter.com/bjpf_/status/1481678897578065923 |
lol there's a guy named Nikola Jovic in the draft. i did a double take when i saw his name. |
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| lakersfan32 wrote: | | Mike@LG wrote: | | https://twitter.com/bjpf_/status/1481678897578065923 |
lol there's a guy named Nikola Jovic in the draft. i did a double take when i saw his name. |
I have mid late lottery to mid 1st.
But hell, I had him in that area last year.
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Comments I see floating around Lakers Twitter:
"NBA GMs overlook older guys who can ball like Desmond Bane in favor of teenagers who can't play. GMs are stupid."
"How did so many GMs pass on Moses Moody?! GMs are stupid."
A: One of the main reasons Moody fell from, say, #9 to #14 is because a couple of 23-year-old guards (who are both having solid seasons) were drafted ahead of him. Long-term I think I'd rather have Haliburton and Moody instead of Mitchell and Sabonis, but what do I know?
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| Posted: Tue Mar 08, 2022 4:44 am Post subject: Re: 2022 NBA Draft - Lakers currently have no pick |
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| Baron Von Humongous wrote: | | Soooo...Jabari Smith is #1, right? |
None of the big three look like future primary options though Banchero has a narrow window to get there. I've got Smith at #3 now because his creator upside seems low for what I look for in a top overall pick and his perimeter defense is less impactful than what Holmgren can bring as a weakside rim protector.
My boring early top ten in what looks like a boring draft:
1) Holmgren
2) Banchero
3) J.Smith
4) Griffin
5) J. Davis
6) K.Brown
7) Ivey
8) Mathurin
9) Eason
10) Murray
Excitement!
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| Mike@LG wrote: | | Baron Von Humongous wrote: | | Just a general thought for you, Mike, as I reassess where I went wrong on Morant is how much creativity can be an indicator of star potential. There's something to being able to "just make sh!t up" in basketball and Morant demonstrates how valuable creativity/improvisation can be to stardom in the league. |
I ranked him down because I think he'll be injury prone.
But improvisation is a very, very big deal in player evaluation and it takes and outrageously high skill set to create a high level of improvisation that leads to great outcomes.
No one saw this. Everyone should be hiring that guy's father for training. |
And the leap between year two and this season has also been so impressive and kind of surprising - he packed two seasons of development into one off-season.
What if prime Derrick Rose was also a great passer? Hopefully Ja can avoid Rose's injury history and his jumper continues to progress so he can have a longer star career than the athletic freak PGs who came before him.
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| Baron Von Humongous wrote: | | Mike@LG wrote: | | Baron Von Humongous wrote: | | Just a general thought for you, Mike, as I reassess where I went wrong on Morant is how much creativity can be an indicator of star potential. There's something to being able to "just make sh!t up" in basketball and Morant demonstrates how valuable creativity/improvisation can be to stardom in the league. |
I ranked him down because I think he'll be injury prone.
But improvisation is a very, very big deal in player evaluation and it takes and outrageously high skill set to create a high level of improvisation that leads to great outcomes.
No one saw this. Everyone should be hiring that guy's father for training. |
And the leap between year two and this season has also been so impressive and kind of surprising - he packed two seasons of development into one off-season.
What if prime Derrick Rose was also a great passer? Hopefully Ja can avoid Rose's injury history and his jumper continues to progress so he can have a longer star career than the athletic freak PGs who came before him. |
He was. He was just too athletic to use that trait.
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| Baron Von Humongous wrote: | Comments I see floating around Lakers Twitter:
"NBA GMs overlook older guys who can ball like Desmond Bane in favor of teenagers who can't play. GMs are stupid."
"How did so many GMs pass on Moses Moody?! GMs are stupid."
A: One of the main reasons Moody fell from, say, #9 to #14 is because a couple of 23-year-old guards (who are both having solid seasons) were drafted ahead of him. Long-term I think I'd rather have Haliburton and Moody instead of Mitchell and Sabonis, but what do I know? |
I had Moody as high as #5, but I don't know what part of Lakers twitter you peruse.
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| Posted: Sat Mar 12, 2022 5:53 am Post subject: |
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| Mike@LG wrote: | | Baron Von Humongous wrote: | Comments I see floating around Lakers Twitter:
"NBA GMs overlook older guys who can ball like Desmond Bane in favor of teenagers who can't play. GMs are stupid."
"How did so many GMs pass on Moses Moody?! GMs are stupid."
A: One of the main reasons Moody fell from, say, #9 to #14 is because a couple of 23-year-old guards (who are both having solid seasons) were drafted ahead of him. Long-term I think I'd rather have Haliburton and Moody instead of Mitchell and Sabonis, but what do I know? |
I had Moody as high as #5, but I don't know what part of Lakers twitter you peruse. |
Not related to you. Just a few normally thoughtful Lakers fans prominent on social media who don't follow the draft closely but still have strong opinions about drafting.
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| Posted: Sat Mar 12, 2022 6:04 am Post subject: Re: 2022 NBA Draft - Lakers currently have no pick |
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| Baron Von Humongous wrote: | | Baron Von Humongous wrote: | | Soooo...Jabari Smith is #1, right? |
None of the big three look like future primary options though Banchero has a narrow window to get there. I've got Smith at #3 now because his creator upside seems low for what I look for in a top overall pick and his perimeter defense is less impactful than what Holmgren can bring as a weakside rim protector.
My boring early top ten in what looks like a boring draft:
1) Holmgren
2) Banchero
3) J.Smith
4) Griffin
5) J. Davis
6) K.Brown
7) Ivey
8) Mathurin
9) Eason
10) Murray
Excitement! |
Not a primary creator to be seen in this class. Crazy.
I like how Johnny Davis runs a PnR; Banchero's passing is legit; Holmgren and Ivey could level up as HC creators; but one of Jean Montero or Kennedy Chandler need to become that guy otherwise this is a draft bereft of a true #1 option.
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| Baron Von Humongous wrote: | | Mike@LG wrote: | | Baron Von Humongous wrote: | Comments I see floating around Lakers Twitter:
"NBA GMs overlook older guys who can ball like Desmond Bane in favor of teenagers who can't play. GMs are stupid."
"How did so many GMs pass on Moses Moody?! GMs are stupid."
A: One of the main reasons Moody fell from, say, #9 to #14 is because a couple of 23-year-old guards (who are both having solid seasons) were drafted ahead of him. Long-term I think I'd rather have Haliburton and Moody instead of Mitchell and Sabonis, but what do I know? |
I had Moody as high as #5, but I don't know what part of Lakers twitter you peruse. |
Not related to you. Just a few normally thoughtful Lakers fans prominent on social media who don't follow the draft closely but still have strong opinions about drafting. |
Ah that section. I've likely come across them, and left their group chat.
But I definitely still ignore certain parts of Lakers draft twitter.
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| Posted: Sat Mar 12, 2022 9:35 am Post subject: Re: 2022 NBA Draft - Lakers currently have no pick |
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| Baron Von Humongous wrote: | | Baron Von Humongous wrote: | | Baron Von Humongous wrote: | | Soooo...Jabari Smith is #1, right? |
None of the big three look like future primary options though Banchero has a narrow window to get there. I've got Smith at #3 now because his creator upside seems low for what I look for in a top overall pick and his perimeter defense is less impactful than what Holmgren can bring as a weakside rim protector.
My boring early top ten in what looks like a boring draft:
1) Holmgren
2) Banchero
3) J.Smith
4) Griffin
5) J. Davis
6) K.Brown
7) Ivey
8) Mathurin
9) Eason
10) Murray
Excitement! |
Not a primary creator to be seen in this class. Crazy.
I like how Johnny Davis runs a PnR; Banchero's passing is legit; Holmgren and Ivey could level up as HC creators; but one of Jean Montero or Kennedy Chandler need to become that guy otherwise this is a draft bereft of a true #1 option. |
I think there's at least 2 #1 option types; and 3 typical #1 picks in this draft.
But right now, I'm Banchero, Jabari, Holmgren in that order, and it's a tie for Holgren and Jabari for me.
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How is Chet a top 3 pick? His offensive game is not advanced enough for a top talent and anyone with strength abuses him.
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| DD20045 wrote: | | How is Chet a top 3 pick? His offensive game is not advanced enough for a top talent and anyone with strength abuses him. |
Oh, you watched the tourney and not the entire season.
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| How much are you putting into Smith being a full year younger than Holmgren.....and 0.5 years younger than Banchero? |
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| Mike@LG wrote: | | DD20045 wrote: | | How is Chet a top 3 pick? His offensive game is not advanced enough for a top talent and anyone with strength abuses him. |
Oh, you watched the tourney and not the entire season. |
Correct - which is why im asking the question. I trust your opinion Mike and am legit wondering.
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| DD20045 wrote: | | Mike@LG wrote: | | DD20045 wrote: | | How is Chet a top 3 pick? His offensive game is not advanced enough for a top talent and anyone with strength abuses him. |
Oh, you watched the tourney and not the entire season. |
Correct - which is why im asking the question. I trust your opinion Mike and am legit wondering. |
Okay. If he was 20lbs heavier at his age, he looked like Jokic out of Mega Basket.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UQwewQR7ehk
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| Mike@LG wrote: | | DD20045 wrote: | | Mike@LG wrote: | | DD20045 wrote: | | How is Chet a top 3 pick? His offensive game is not advanced enough for a top talent and anyone with strength abuses him. |
Oh, you watched the tourney and not the entire season. |
Correct - which is why im asking the question. I trust your opinion Mike and am legit wondering. |
Okay. If he was 20lbs heavier at his age, he looked like Jokic out of Mega Basket.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UQwewQR7ehk |
Unfortunately he is not 20 lbs heavier.
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| DD20045 wrote: | | Mike@LG wrote: | | DD20045 wrote: | | Mike@LG wrote: | | DD20045 wrote: | | How is Chet a top 3 pick? His offensive game is not advanced enough for a top talent and anyone with strength abuses him. |
Oh, you watched the tourney and not the entire season. |
Correct - which is why im asking the question. I trust your opinion Mike and am legit wondering. |
Okay. If he was 20lbs heavier at his age, he looked like Jokic out of Mega Basket.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UQwewQR7ehk |
Unfortunately he is not 20 lbs heavier. |
Then choose someone else. Some teams will actually wait for the weight gain like Jokic for Denver and Gasol for Memphis, and it'll pay dividends.
The idea of having an NBA ready body at 19 doesn't make sense anyway.
But hell, even Evan Mobley was roughly the same weight as Cade Cunningham. He's probably an All NBA Defensive 3rd teamer right now.
But it goes to the heart of why I didn't want to answer the question you asked. Even when I tell you the answer, you don't like it, but still can't "see" why he's a Top 3 and arguable #1.
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MikeLG and others, what do you think of Caleb Love and his draft prospects?
The kid seems to have the "it" factor to me, but maybe I am overrating him.
What do you think of him and is he a top NBA prospect?
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There's another guy on UNC I like a ton, that'll likely be 2nd round to undrafted, but I need more footage before I write about him on my Substack.
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