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PostPosted: Sun Jan 02, 2022 8:55 am    Post subject:

Yeah I really like the potential of AD/Bron/Stanley defensively, but the issue is spacing. WB needs an open paint, and Bron is also most effective when he has a mismatch with an open paint to post up or drive on is man.

But AD's 3 pointer is MIA and we need a knockdown 3 point shooter next to them. Stanley's length and mobility is huge on D, but it will be negated on offense unless he continues to be solid from outside.

It's why I wouldn't argue with a trade for Grant, he's not a great shooter, but he is a threat, and with the amount of open looks he would get next to AD/Bron, would be interesting.
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wolfpaclaker wrote:
Yeah I really like the potential of AD/Bron/Stanley defensively, but the issue is spacing. WB needs an open paint, and Bron is also most effective when he has a mismatch with an open paint to post up or drive on is man.

But AD's 3 pointer is MIA and we need a knockdown 3 point shooter next to them. Stanley's length and mobility is huge on D, but it will be negated on offense unless he continues to be solid from outside.

It's why I wouldn't argue with a trade for Grant, he's not a great shooter, but he is a threat, and with the amount of open looks he would get next to AD/Bron, would be interesting.


Grant is injured, and has been injured. He's also shooting 33% from three thus far this year.

I think if Johnson can continue to hit his three at a semi decent clip (not asking for 39% or anything, as 33% would be fine imo). Then he's invaluable for defenses can't afford to leave him open.

The benefit is that even if his three wasn't falling on a given night, he's bringing it on the defensive end and that seems to always be there for him.

That is probably what Vogel wants over all else.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 02, 2022 10:56 am    Post subject:

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Very much what exactly what we need to maximize the kind of defense Vogel wants us to have.


He’s gonna become our Ron Artest


He has quick hands and moves his feet well like Artest but he‘s not as mean as Ron Ron.

But he‘s playing a similar style
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 02, 2022 11:44 am    Post subject:

Phil Hardy says The Work is Real, with Stanley Johnson

https://twitter.com/94feetofgame/status/1477349791092723712
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 02, 2022 12:57 pm    Post subject:

matigol wrote:
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Stanley Johnson defensive highlights




Very much what exactly what we need to maximize the kind of defense Vogel wants us to have.


He’s gonna become our Ron Artest


He has quick hands and moves his feet well like Artest but he‘s not as mean as Ron Ron.

But he‘s playing a similar style

Ron is asking for too much, but the clay is there. The base, the strength, quick hands. He's a good athlete, NBA body. Has strong post base. Doesn't get pushed off easily by his man on defensive penetration coverages.

I really want to see Stanley keep moving off the ball and finding the rim on those cuts and be fearless on the open 3 pointer. If he does that, he's a 2-way guy and can log minutes next to Melo in small ball situations, OR potentially start next to AD/Bron up front. I'd like to see a lineup of AD, Bron, Stanley, Reaves, Bradley. That's a lot of players that will not let you score easily, and can play shut down defense.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 02, 2022 1:54 pm    Post subject:

Stanley was doing a hell of a job on Harden. Had him locked up a few times. With good coaching and work ethic it sure seems like he can be a great defender.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 03, 2022 3:07 am    Post subject:

Their 10 days is up today right? Can the Lakers sign them to a second 10 day contract?
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 03, 2022 4:18 am    Post subject:

I think we’ll see a few moves today, considering DC and SJ’s contracts are up:

1) Rondo trade completed, Valentine waived
2) Johnson signed to the 15-man roster
3) Bradley guaranteed
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 03, 2022 6:36 am    Post subject:

Anyone know when Nunn is due back from injury?
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 03, 2022 11:36 am    Post subject:

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Anyone know when Nunn is due back from injury?


Good question. I thought I saw him in street clothes along with AD last night at the game.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 03, 2022 11:44 am    Post subject:

wolfpaclaker wrote:
Yeah I really like the potential of AD/Bron/Stanley defensively, but the issue is spacing. WB needs an open paint, and Bron is also most effective when he has a mismatch with an open paint to post up or drive on is man.

But AD's 3 pointer is MIA and we need a knockdown 3 point shooter next to them. Stanley's length and mobility is huge on D, but it will be negated on offense unless he continues to be solid from outside.

It's why I wouldn't argue with a trade for Grant, he's not a great shooter, but he is a threat, and with the amount of open looks he would get next to AD/Bron, would be interesting.



It's easy.

Don't start Westbrook.


Davis + Bron + Monk is enough scoring

put 2 defenders there and go to work

Bradley
Monk
Stanley
Bron
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 03, 2022 12:14 pm    Post subject:

Yeah, but we know that's not happening to WB.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 03, 2022 12:49 pm    Post subject:

troy wrote:
Anyone know when Nunn is due back from injury?


Right after Dr. Dre releases Detox.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 03, 2022 12:52 pm    Post subject:

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Their 10 days is up today right? Can the Lakers sign them to a second 10 day contract?


I don’t believe that they can use 10-day contracts until January 5. They don’t have enough players on the COVID list to have replacement players.
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miggz23 wrote:
Their 10 days is up today right? Can the Lakers sign them to a second 10 day contract?


I don’t believe that they can use 10-day contracts until January 5. They don’t have enough players on the COVID list to have replacement players.


Nice point. And I think the non-COVID 10-day deals do count against the tax. So there's no incentive to play around with that anyway.

Expect his deal is currently in the works. Hope it has a second year.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 03, 2022 1:05 pm    Post subject:

Keep Stanley, send Collison back into retirement.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 03, 2022 2:50 pm    Post subject:

Why the (bleep) isn't Collison getting any play time? We seriously gave IT more of a chance lol. Stop (bleep) playing him with WB ffs let him run the second unit.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 03, 2022 3:01 pm    Post subject:

they're really going to have Stanley miss the kings game so he can get another 10 day instead of a regular spot what a clown show
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 03, 2022 3:42 pm    Post subject:

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they're really going to have Stanley miss the kings game so he can get another 10 day instead of a regular spot what a clown show


I believe the Lakers can't sign him until January 5th.

Can any team just pick him up?... Or does he have the option to turn teams down, if Lakers plan to sign him another 10 day contract?


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PostPosted: Mon Jan 03, 2022 3:45 pm    Post subject:

miggz23 wrote:
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they're really going to have Stanley miss the kings game so he can get another 10 day instead of a regular spot what a clown show


Can any team just pick him up?... Or does he have the option to turn teams down, if Lakers plan to sign him another 10 day contract?


Any team with a roster spot open can sign him but he has to agree, he is a FA. I think that OKC is the only team with cap space who could offer more than the minimum but I’m not sure if they have a roster spot.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 03, 2022 5:16 pm    Post subject:

tj24 wrote:
they're really going to have Stanley miss the kings game so he can get another 10 day instead of a regular spot what a clown show


This is going to massively blow up in Jeanie’s face if they lose tomorrow and it’s because zero defense on someone like Barnes or whoever Johnson’s assignment would be…
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 03, 2022 5:19 pm    Post subject:

Stanley has been starting recently, are they really waiting to sign him? We are going to play a very big kings team tomorrow, so I hope they do it before that.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 03, 2022 6:09 pm    Post subject:

There's mutual interest between Stanley Johnson and the Lakers to have him rejoin the team, league sources told ESPN. LAL has three options to have him come back: Sign him outright; sign for a 10-day contract then retain; sign him for two consecutive 10-days, then retain.

https://twitter.com/mcten/status/1478183288355254272?s=21


Non hardship exemption 10-day contracts cannot be given out, per league rules, until Jan. 5. So Johnson cannot be with the Lakers on Tuesday against SAC. Also, Johnson's previous hardship 10-day contract does not count against him still signing up to two more 10-days with LAL

https://twitter.com/mcten/status/1478183752710836225?s=21
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 03, 2022 7:30 pm    Post subject:

I don’t mind a couple of 10-day contracts, it’s a bigger sample size to see what he is. He has obviously had problems sticking in the league.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 03, 2022 7:41 pm    Post subject:

How much can they make if hired on for the rest of the season?

I think it would really take a lot of mental deficiency to screw up now and miss playing with LeBron AD Westbrook et al and if he fails them they will let people know

We need this guy.. strength intelligence motivation size... oh and he is 25 years old

but maybe we have some Center sized player on our radar who might get bought out?

I don't think we will even talk about trading Russ... as stupid as it sounds not to entertain it But - it would look bad on our team and scouting etc imho.. *unless he knows if X player becomes available The Lakers must pick him and try to use Russ in the trade

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While growing up in Fullerton, Calif., Stanley Johnson only had a few channels on his TV. The limited programming included Lakers games, causing the hoops-obsessed prodigy from Southern California to develop an affinity with the purple and gold.

“When I would think about playing basketball in the NBA, I’d always view myself in a Laker jersey,” Johnson told The Athletic on Thursday.


Stanley Johnson says he always dreamed about playing for the Lakers
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