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PostPosted: Wed Nov 09, 2022 5:57 pm    Post subject:

ABC News
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(Russian officials announce retreat from Kherson)

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Russian officials have announced the country’s troops will retreat from the key Ukrainian city of Kherson.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 10, 2022 8:15 am    Post subject:

Top Russian propagandist says that Russia waited to announce the Kherson withdrawal until after Nov. 8, to make sure it does not help Joe Biden and the Democrats in the midterms.

Video with english subtitles. Go to the last minute.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 10, 2022 8:26 am    Post subject:

CNN
https://youtu.be/rz5aKgl_iCg
(Top Russian general announces retreat from key city of Kherson)

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Russia's Defense Ministry says its troops are preparing to withdraw from a large part of the occupied Ukrainian region of Kherson. CNN's Nic Robertson has more.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 10, 2022 8:27 am    Post subject:

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Top Russian propagandist says that Russia waited to announce the Kherson withdrawal until after Nov. 8, to make sure it does not help Joe Biden and the Democrats in the midterms.

Video with english subtitles. Go to the last minute.


Putin, the dumbass, should be more worried about how his failed war, in Ukraine, is harming his country.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 10, 2022 8:50 am    Post subject:

CNN
https://youtu.be/5uNXDHqtvo0
(Russian Navy observed preparing test of a nuclear-powered, unmanned torpedo)

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The US observed Russian naval vessels preparing for a possible test of a new nuclear-powered torpedo in recent weeks, a senior US official with direct knowledge told CNN. CNN's Jim Sciutto and retired US Army Lt. Gen. Mark Hertling discuss.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 10, 2022 10:14 am    Post subject:

CNN
https://youtu.be/xSHR5PRyDCs
(‘It’s significant’: Putin orders troops to withdraw from Kherson)

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CNN international diplomatic editor Nic Robertson reports from Ukraine on Ukrainian military officials saying Russia wants to turn Kherson into a “city of death.”
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 10, 2022 11:31 am    Post subject:

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CNN
https://youtu.be/5uNXDHqtvo0
(Russian Navy observed preparing test of a nuclear-powered, unmanned torpedo)

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The US observed Russian naval vessels preparing for a possible test of a new nuclear-powered torpedo in recent weeks, a senior US official with direct knowledge told CNN. CNN's Jim Sciutto and retired US Army Lt. Gen. Mark Hertling discuss.


More like a nuclear powered drone sub with a nuclear "dirty bomb" inside. It's only purpose is terror.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 10, 2022 1:43 pm    Post subject:

I hope we aren't taking the nuclear threat lightly. I get a sense the public as a whole doesn't think it will happen. Putin is on the edge.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 10, 2022 3:29 pm    Post subject:

CNN
https://youtu.be/7kgIpu2wVlM
(‘We have stopped them’: Zelensky speaks about Ukraine’s progress in war with Russia)

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Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky and his wife Olena Zelenska sat down with CNN’s Christiane Amanpour in Kyiv to talk about the status of Ukraine’s war with Russia.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 10, 2022 5:05 pm    Post subject:

Forces News
https://youtu.be/3brUB-C5P-A
(Ukraine: Kherson withdrawal is Russia's 'biggest setback of the war')

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Russia's withdrawal from the Ukrainian city of Kherson is Moscow's "biggest setback of the war", an expert has said.

Professor Michael Clarke, former director of defence and security think tank RUSI, spoke to Forces News about the move and what the implications might be.

Kherson was the only regional capital Russian forces had seized since invading Ukraine in February.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 11, 2022 6:40 pm    Post subject:

DICHOTOMY IN RUSSIA:

Supporting the withdrawal from Kherson is a violation of Article 280 (1) of the Russian Criminal Code.

Opposing the withdrawal from Kherson is a violation of Article 280 (3) of the Russian Criminal Code.

Both have similar, years long prison sentences.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 11, 2022 7:54 pm    Post subject:

CNN
https://youtu.be/UbpZijsCREc
(Kherson residents tell CNN how they feel after Russia's retreat)

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Ukrainian military entered Kherson on Friday after Russia withdrew its military forces. For the residents in Kherson, Russia's retreat is a relief after long-lasting trauma. CNN's Nic Robertson reports.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 12, 2022 12:03 pm    Post subject:

CNN
https://youtu.be/xGZhcaxF4l4
(Field tool for female Ukrainian soldiers amazes Amanpour)

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More than 50,000 Ukrainian women are under arms with the fight against Russians. CNN's Christiane Amanpour goes to a volunteer hub that is helping make the uniforms customized for women and sending other supplies to the front lines.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 12, 2022 12:08 pm    Post subject:

CNN
https://youtu.be/peVTNYXK3AY
(CNN on the ground as Kherson celebrates liberation)

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CNN International Diplomatic Editor Nic Robertson spoke to newly liberated residents in the Ukrainian city of Kherson after Russian forces retreated in one of the biggest setbacks for President Vladimir Putin since his invasion began.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 12, 2022 12:09 pm    Post subject:

CNN
https://youtu.be/YGEfiYHyVuI
(CNN military analyst predicts Ukraine's next steps following Kherson liberation)

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Retired Air Force Col. Colonel Cedric Leighton explains the significance of the Kherson liberation and predicts the next steps for the Ukrainian military.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 12, 2022 12:45 pm    Post subject:

If Ukraine wins the war some of my cronies want Ukraine to go on and invade Russia. IMO Ukraine's best option is to win the war and start to rebuild. If they invade Russia all hell will break loose.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 12, 2022 1:06 pm    Post subject:

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If Ukraine wins the war some of my cronies want Ukraine to go on and invade Russia. IMO Ukraine's best option is to win the war and start to rebuild. If they invade Russia all hell will break loose.


If Ukraine invades Russia, Russia will be justified in using nukes in retaliation.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 12, 2022 1:15 pm    Post subject:

If that unlikely scenario were to happen the international support would dry up.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 12, 2022 1:28 pm    Post subject:

Dr. Laker wrote:
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If Ukraine wins the war some of my cronies want Ukraine to go on and invade Russia. IMO Ukraine's best option is to win the war and start to rebuild. If they invade Russia all hell will break loose.


If Ukraine invades Russia, Russia will be justified in using nukes in retaliation.


I don't think there's a justification for using nukes. It's a WMD whose use would affect the entire planet, including Russia. I'm of the school that nuclear weapons are deterrents, not options. They're too destructive.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 14, 2022 1:58 pm    Post subject:

General Assembly adopts resolution on Russian reparations for Ukraine

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The UN General Assembly on Monday adopted a resolution that calls for Russia to pay war reparations to Ukraine, as ambassadors met to resume their emergency special session devoted to the conflict.

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 14, 2022 5:48 pm    Post subject:

BBC News
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(Ukraine’s President Zelensky visits liberated Kherson - BBC News)

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Ukraine’s President Volodymyr Zelenksy has visited Kherson, days after his troops recaptured it following Russia’s withdrawal.

The president sang the national anthem with soldiers and residents as the Ukrainian flag was raised.

The recapture of the Kherson was the “beginning of the end of the war,” Zelenksy said.

Russia took the southern city in March, weeks after the invasion began. Losing it is a major setback for Russia - though Moscow insists it remains Russian territory.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 14, 2022 7:48 pm    Post subject:

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General Assembly adopts resolution on Russian reparations for Ukraine

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The UN General Assembly on Monday adopted a resolution that calls for Russia to pay war reparations to Ukraine, as ambassadors met to resume their emergency special session devoted to the conflict.


Yeah, that will never happen....
Considering the USSR never repaid the USA for lend-lease, I would consider the chances of this happening as close to 0%.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 14, 2022 11:12 pm    Post subject:

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General Assembly adopts resolution on Russian reparations for Ukraine

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The UN General Assembly on Monday adopted a resolution that calls for Russia to pay war reparations to Ukraine, as ambassadors met to resume their emergency special session devoted to the conflict.


Yeah, that will never happen....
Considering the USSR never repaid the USA for lend-lease, I would consider the chances of this happening as close to 0%.


Russia paid off lend-lease in 2006 (for pennies on the dollar). Russia won't have the money to pay reparations until they eliminate the kleptocracy.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 14, 2022 11:36 pm    Post subject:

Dr. Laker wrote:
lakersken80 wrote:
Dr. Laker wrote:
General Assembly adopts resolution on Russian reparations for Ukraine

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The UN General Assembly on Monday adopted a resolution that calls for Russia to pay war reparations to Ukraine, as ambassadors met to resume their emergency special session devoted to the conflict.


Yeah, that will never happen....
Considering the USSR never repaid the USA for lend-lease, I would consider the chances of this happening as close to 0%.


Russia paid off lend-lease in 2006 (for pennies on the dollar). Russia won't have the money to pay reparations until they eliminate the kleptocracy.


That is false. It was the UK that paid it off in 2006. Russia's debt was written off. They never repaid it.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 15, 2022 5:16 am    Post subject:

"We have no guns, food, clothes, nothing," local warriors from Pechenga tell their mothers and wives

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Mobilised men from the far northern Russian border town say they are abandoned along the frontline in Ukraine without food and equipment.

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